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NSchandler
05-02-2007, 06:47 PM
Villain is unknown.

Is this a draw often enough to call?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($30.25)
BB ($46.85)
UTG ($50.75)
MP ($19.65)
Hero ($52.65)
Button ($34.15)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls $3.50.

Flop: ($10.75) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $9</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $45.75</font>
prodonkey
05-02-2007, 06:54 PM
I just fold usually.. unless I have a read the guy is a whack job. One pair isn't gonna hold up on that board a lot
Fels krone
05-02-2007, 06:58 PM
I dont see a set or two pair betting 1/5 pot on that board. Only J9 and 96 are there, so I would probably call.
Veron
05-02-2007, 07:09 PM
His line really screams draw to me. I'd call
MrMysterious
05-02-2007, 07:26 PM
fold?
creamfillin
05-02-2007, 07:40 PM
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I dont see a set or two pair betting 1/5 pot on that board. Only J9 and 96 are there, so I would probably call.

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i see it all the time
NSchandler
05-02-2007, 08:39 PM
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fold?

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Are you saying this as in "ummm, obvious fold" or as in "I suppose that's a fold?"
Chomp
05-02-2007, 08:49 PM
In theory I think a big part of his pf calling/flop cr range is draws/hands we beat {Axs, KJs+, QJs+, Tx, random scs, JJ-KK} and a smaller part is hands we're losing to {TT, 77, 88}.

What I have no idea about is the frequency with which an unknown pushes any of the former range. Clearly the entire latter range is a push.

So should we make the decision purely on the relatively narrow range we are losing to absent any notion about an unknown's pushing frequency? Or should we try to work out the frequency instead?