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MrWooster
05-01-2007, 12:48 PM
Unknown villain, do I have right odds to call turn bet?

Thanks

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BB ($3.94)
UTG ($2.30)
Hero ($4.92)
CO ($4.39)
Button ($3.64)
SB ($2.08)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $0.08</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.2</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG calls $0.12.

Flop: ($0.43) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.3</font>, UTG calls $0.30.

Turn: ($1.03) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.82</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1.8</font>, Hero - call or fold???
TomTom
05-01-2007, 01:39 PM
Call. It's close, but implied odds tips it. I figure all your D outs are good, but may only have 3 K outs ‘cause I think he has one (or two) of them. So you’re 12/46 or 3.8:1 to hit. It costs you .98 to win 4.63 which is 4.7:1. As you’re drawing to the nut straight and flush you’re most always good.

I think you messed up by betting the turn. Villain took back the aggression and has you pretty much committed to the hand. Take the free card here; you have nothing, and get out cheap if you miss and you’ll probably stack him on the river anyway if you hit.
TomTom
05-01-2007, 02:26 PM
Ummmm... I messed that all up. I shouldn't try to think at work. And now I can't find the dang edit button.

I'll try this again tonight.

(Stack the bastard anyway!)
MrWooster
05-01-2007, 02:58 PM
I guessed he might have a king and tried to factor that in but I find it very difficult to calculate the odds on the go - I think that it was right to call (though its quite a high variance situation) and the outs were both to the nuts.

Thanks
Jouster777
05-01-2007, 03:09 PM
I would say all your straight and flush outs are good and for the rare times they aren't they are balanced by having A outs once in a while.

You have 15+ outs vs. 31 other unknown cards. So your odds of hitting are 1:2 and the pot is offering you 2:1. Probably a call when you factor in that he may do this with air or a small pair.
Lego05
05-01-2007, 03:40 PM
Ok what am I going crazy or somthing. This is a ridic easy call. We have a straight draw and a flush draw and all but the low straight are to the nuts.

And the pot is offering 3.7 to 1 not 4.7 to 1 or 2 to 1.:

1.03 + .82 + 1.8 = 3.65 in pot.
1.8 - .82 = .98 that we have to call.
3.65/.98 = 3.7
He is getting 3.7 to 1.

He really only needs 2 to 1 to call. EASY CALL.
Jouster777
05-01-2007, 04:38 PM
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Ok what am I going crazy or somthing. This is a ridic easy call. We have a straight draw and a flush draw and all but the low straight are to the nuts.

And the pot is offering 3.7 to 1 not 4.7 to 1 or 2 to 1.:

1.03 + .82 + 1.8 = 3.65 in pot.
1.8 - .82 = .98 that we have to call.
3.65/.98 = 3.7
He is getting 3.7 to 1.

He really only needs 2 to 1 to call. EASY CALL.

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You are right...haven't posted in a long time and screwed up my first two posts.