**Official uNL Microbrew thread: May** [Archive]

hanster

05-01-2007, 05:14 AM

Goal: 100k hands this month and hopefully move up to 12-tabling 50 NL 6max by the end of the month. (Currently 8~12-tabling 25). Winrate: Anything positive should be nice.

Oh and this is the worst beat I've had percentage-wise ever in terms of getting all the money in when I'm ahead. I was confused when the cards were shown.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($66.60)
BB ($12.75)
Hero ($26.80)
MP ($24.75)
Button ($17.55)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, Button calls $1, 2 folds.

Flop: ($2.35) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $1.75, Button raises to $16.55, Hero calls $14.80.

Turn: ($35.45) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)

River: ($35.45) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)

Final Pot: $35.45

Results in white below: 
Hero has 9c Ac (straight, five high).
Button has Ah 6h (straight, six high).
Outcome: Button wins $35.45. 

FlopTurnRiver.com -h Ac 9c - Ah 6h -- 3c 9d 2c
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing 3c 2c 9d
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ac 9c 980 98.99 10 1.01 0 0.00 0.990
Ah 6h 10 1.01 980 98.99 0 0.00 0.010

Mehhhhhhh

PietM

05-01-2007, 05:20 AM

Got a coaching session with FruityPro last Friday. I was getting my ass kicked at 50NL (man does a 20BI downswing suck), and wasn't sure if it was me or the doomswitchthing.
He put my mind at ease a bit and plugged some minor leaks (especially tightening up OOP). Played 3K hands after that over the weekend and finally ran good (7PTBB/100). Yay me!

I'm going to try to hold on to the positive mindset and rake in the $$! /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

thac

05-01-2007, 05:20 AM

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It seems as if this is the first time in like 3 months I havent started this thread drunk. Sweet. I also havent played in a month. Also sweet.

All, wish Thac luck as he quits poker, and send me PMs for hte moneyline on when he returns. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

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Haha, thanks bud, good luck when you make your return /images/graemlins/smile.gif

simanski

05-01-2007, 05:29 AM

Brag: You're in highschool.
Beat: I'm in office 8 hours/day with a super-aggro boss and a donkey assistant.

kazana

05-01-2007, 06:09 AM

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Also too, play nice or Ill start getting angry. You know who you are. Keep the dick-waving to a minimum, and have a good attitude.

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gelford not allowed to post in tha brew this month or wut?!?!?!

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I can think of at least 2 other pos(t)ers, that tend to wave dick continuously about 1000% more than gelford ever did in his biggest of brags.

mrw8419

05-01-2007, 06:25 AM

Last month I played 17,500 hands and ran 3.5 ptbb/100 and I'm dissapointed because I seem to spew and tilt more than necessary. Goal is to start actively posting on the forum and play more hands. Want to run at about 6-8ptbb/100 over 30k hands so I can start playing nl 100 by the end of the month.

Everlong

05-01-2007, 07:33 AM

Changing pastures for a while so I go on an FPP rampage:

(save the cross-dresser jokes - those are bribes for the mrs) /images/graemlins/smile.gif

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/postNfold/FPP.jpg

I'll be at FT and AP for a while. I am so addicted to stars FPP:S and MTT:s I need to go where that [censored] is of zero interest.

Ps. I am not a nit anymore Ds.

munkey

05-01-2007, 07:52 AM

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It seems as if this is the first time in like 3 months I havent started this thread drunk. Sweet. I also havent played in a month. Also sweet.

All, wish Thac luck as he quits poker, and send me PMs for hte moneyline on when he returns. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

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Haha, thanks bud, good luck when you make your return /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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I've been away and and missed teh uGossip.

So thac you're leaving pokah - yet posting here /images/graemlins/grin.gif
I'm sure after a nice break and spending lots of time with your gf and friends you'll be back. You can always be a 2tabling pro that lures other TAGs in because he's not playing 8 tables.

Have an enjoyable summer away from the tables anyway.

You better get some practice in for the uNL tourney with bounties /images/graemlins/tongue.gif :hint:

munkey [BTW yah I see I'm not a noob anymore /images/graemlins/grin.gif]

tufat23

05-01-2007, 08:42 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Changing pastures for a while so I go on an FPP rampage:

(save the cross-dresser jokes - those are bribes for the mrs) /images/graemlins/smile.gif

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/postNfold/FPP.jpg

I'll be at FT and AP for a while. I am so addicted to stars FPP:S and MTT:s I need to go where that [censored] is of zero interest.

Ps. I am not a nit anymore Ds.

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the book of bluffs was the first book that really made me play goot. the examples are good and concepts were definitely an 'aha' moment for me. as a book, its not very good but for what it did to my game it was incredible.

i recommend anyone whos been breaking even to get it, one of the very few poker books i'd ever consider recommending for NL skills

SirFelixCat

05-01-2007, 09:42 AM

nm...Here's to a good month!

Genz

05-01-2007, 10:01 AM

Why can't poker always be that simple?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

MP ($56.91)
Hero ($53.40)
Button ($49.25)
SB ($68.78)
BB ($5.21)
UTG ($147.03)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, Hero raises to $3, 3 folds, UTG folds, MP calls $2.50.

Flop: ($7.25) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
MP calls $56.91 (All-In), Hero calls $53.40 (All-In).

Turn: ($117.56) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($117.56) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $117.56

Results in white below:
MP has 5c 5s (three of a kind, fives).
Hero has Qc Qh (three of a kind, queens).
Outcome: Hero wins $114.05. MP wins $3.51.

ama0330

05-01-2007, 10:26 AM

Sup May

Kimo White Devil

05-01-2007, 11:55 AM

May's gonna be the !!/!!.

goals :

1. Stop trying to play some1 else numbers (cannot play more than 19 VPIP, with my current skill level)
2. Stop c-betting on the weekends against donks who think A-high is the nutz and value bet them to death with a 17/14 game
3. Play normal game on week days
4. goal 5-6ptbb/100 at 100NL (im at 4 ptbb/100 after my first 10k hands there)
5. play 30K hands = 3000$ profit
6. GoGoGo

SirFelixCat

05-01-2007, 12:08 PM

[ QUOTE ]
May's gonna be the !!/!!.

goals :

1. Stop trying to play some1 else numbers (cannot play more than 19 VPIP, with my current skill level)
2. Stop c-betting on the weekends against donks who think A-high is the nutz and value bet them to death with a 17/14 game
3. Play normal game on week days
4. goal 5-6ptbb/100 at 100NL (im at 4 ptbb/100 after my first 10k hands there)
5. play 30K hands = 3000$ profit
6. GoGoGo

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Pssst.... Goal thread is here /images/graemlins/wink.gif (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=microplnl&Number=10191311 &page=0&fpart=2)

Genz

05-01-2007, 12:10 PM

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1. Stop trying to play some1 else numbers

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I really like that.

wildzer0

05-01-2007, 12:15 PM

So rigged

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($93.45)
CO ($49.25)
Button ($348.20)
Hero ($65.05)
BB ($51.40)
UTG ($54.60)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
2 folds, CO raises to $2, Button raises to $5, Hero calls $4.75, 1 fold, CO calls $3.

Flop: ($15.50) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, Button bets $15, Hero calls $15, CO folds.

Turn: ($45.50) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $20, Button raises to $328.2, Hero calls $25.05 (All-In).

River: ($418.75) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $418.75

Results in white below: 
Hero has 8c 8s (full house, eights full of fours).
Button has 9c 9s (full house, nines full of fours).
Outcome: Button wins $418.75. 

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($67.05)
MP ($18.50)
Button ($52.45)
SB ($104.65)
Hero ($52)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
3 folds, SB raises to $1, Hero raises to $5, SB calls $4.

Flop: ($10) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $7, SB raises to $99.65, Hero calls $40 (All-In).

Turn: ($156.65) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($156.65) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $156.65

Results in white below: 
SB has 3c 5h (two pair, fives and threes).
Hero has Qh Kc (one pair, kings).
Outcome: SB wins $156.65.

wildzer0

05-01-2007, 01:55 PM

So [censored] rigged

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($7.75)
Hero ($83.05)
SB ($27.45)
BB ($55.95)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
1 fold, Hero raises to $2, SB calls $1.75, 1 fold.

Flop: ($4.50) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB bets $4, Hero raises to $12, SB calls $8.

Turn: ($28.50) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
SB bets $13.45 (All-In), Hero calls $13.45.

River: ($55.40) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $55.40

Results in white below: 
Hero has Jd Jh (two pair, jacks and nines).
SB has 9c Ah (full house, nines full of sixes).
Outcome: SB wins $55.40. 

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($20)
SB ($18.50)
BB ($50.50)
UTG ($51.35)
Hero ($65.10)
CO ($24.15)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
1 fold, Hero raises to $2, CO raises to $8, 3 folds, Hero raises to $65.1, CO calls $16.15 (All-In).

Flop: ($90) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($90) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($90) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $90

Results in white below: 
Hero has Th Ts (two pair, aces and tens).
CO has Qd Td (two pair, aces and queens).
Outcome: CO wins $49.05. Hero wins $40.95.

SirFelixCat

05-01-2007, 01:56 PM

Why not to slow play...yet again:

I like May...kinda:

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh/))

SB: $36.55
BB: $49
UTG: $42.80
MP: $12.90
Hero (CO): $59
BTN: $47

Preflop: Hero is dealt T/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.50, BTN folds, SB calls $2.25, BB calls $2, MP calls $2

Flop: ($10) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 8/images/graemlins/club.gif (4 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $8.50, SB calls $8.50, BB calls $8.50, MP folds

Turn: ($35.50) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($35.50) T/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 Players)
SB checks, BB bets $15, Hero raises to $45, SB folds, BB calls all-in for $23
Uncalled bet of $7 returned to Hero

Pot Size: $111.50 ($3 Rake)

BB had 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (a straight, Ten high) and LOST (-$49)
Hero had T/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (a full house, Tens full of Eights) and WON (+$59.50)

HBomb

05-01-2007, 02:06 PM

I lost a $300 pot yesterday when I had a $200 stack against a $160+ stack yesterday at $50 NL... I had AK on the button and he was only guy who called to the flop with 33... flop was KK3, I was the one who put in the last raise too /images/graemlins/frown.gif gg me...
But I did win my 2nd $200+ pot of April 2 nights ago. I will post the wins when I get home from work...

Overall, I think good riddance April, this month was very swingy to me /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

SirFelixCat

05-01-2007, 02:12 PM

Biggest hand ever at 50NL woot!!!!

Yup, I like May!!!

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh/))

Hero (SB): $55.05
BB: $41.20
UTG: $23
MP: $76.85
CO: $18.75
BTN: $52.55

Preflop: Hero is dealt 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif 7/images/graemlins/club.gif (6 Players)
UTG raises to $1.75, MP raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero calls $2.75, BB calls $2.50, UTG calls $1.25

Flop: ($12) T/images/graemlins/club.gif 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 Players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.50, UTG raises to $7, MP raises to $13.50, Hero raises all-in to $52.05, BB calls all-in for $37.70, UTG calls all-in for $13, MP calls $38.55

Turn: ($174.30) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif (4 Players - 3 All-In)

River: ($174.30) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 Players - 3 All-In)

Pot Size: $174.30 ($3 Rake)

UTG had K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (a pair of Tens) and LOST (-$23)
BB had 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (a pair of Fours) and LOST (-$41.20)
MP had A/images/graemlins/club.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (a pair of Aces) and LOST (-$55.05)
Hero had 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif 7/images/graemlins/club.gif (three of a kind, Sevens) and WON (+$116.25)

4_2_it

05-01-2007, 02:14 PM

Hello uNL brethern. In case any of you will be in Vegas around WSOP time.

SSNL Vegas Get Together (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=10196548&an=0&page=0&gon ew=1#UNREAD)

thac

05-01-2007, 02:46 PM

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It seems as if this is the first time in like 3 months I havent started this thread drunk. Sweet. I also havent played in a month. Also sweet.

All, wish Thac luck as he quits poker, and send me PMs for hte moneyline on when he returns. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

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Haha, thanks bud, good luck when you make your return /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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I've been away and and missed teh uGossip.

So thac you're leaving pokah - yet posting here /images/graemlins/grin.gif
I'm sure after a nice break and spending lots of time with your gf and friends you'll be back. You can always be a 2tabling pro that lures other TAGs in because he's not playing 8 tables.

Have an enjoyable summer away from the tables anyway.

You better get some practice in for the uNL tourney with bounties /images/graemlins/tongue.gif :hint:

munkey [BTW yah I see I'm not a noob anymore /images/graemlins/grin.gif]

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Haha yeah, I have extra time at night after my job (if you haven't heard I have a 40 hour weekday job from 4am til 2pm, and it makes me pretty tired after I get home so I can't play much even if I wanted to, but the main reason I'm not playing is because I wanna use my bankroll to help furnish our new apartment and pay for all the bills while my gf looks for a new job.

I may return, but I'm actually quite happy with life since I've quit.. it was fun coming home from work and losing a week's paycheck in 30 minutes. That's when I knew I shouldn't play anymore. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

ajml

05-01-2007, 02:58 PM

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it was fun coming home from work and losing a week's paycheck in 30 minutes

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i hear ya last summer i worked at my friends cell phone store for $12 an hour figuring like hey its an extra $12 an hour in rakeback basically. id get maybe 2 customers a day so he let me 4 table 5/10 limit at work all day. itd kinda suck to walk into work and lose $500 in the first hour of monday and be like wow thats pretty much my whole weeks paycheck. thank god for poker

simanski

05-01-2007, 02:58 PM

http://img167.imagevenue.com/loc383/th_45414_may1_122_383lo.jpg (http://img167.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=45414_may1_122_383lo.jpg)

Good start in May. /images/graemlins/frown.gif /images/graemlins/frown.gif /images/graemlins/frown.gif
High time to destroy something in the house. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Vyse

05-01-2007, 03:03 PM

Hey kaz... got my money? SHIP IT

limit refugee

05-01-2007, 03:07 PM

Are pokerstars 1-1 sng's insanely ez or have i just had a good run today (first time playing them)

If anyone plays these regularly, where do they get harder? What kind of ROI's do people get in these things at the 10's and 20's...not really looking to play them too much, just kind of curious.

wildzer0

05-01-2007, 03:09 PM

They are insanely easy.

jonyy6788

05-01-2007, 03:27 PM

I wish FT wasn't rigged

fees

05-01-2007, 03:27 PM

LOL my thac over/under was going to be before this thread gets to page 2...

unrelated:

 HU4ROLLZ

fees

05-01-2007, 03:28 PM

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I wish FT was rigged

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fyp

.xxxx.

05-01-2007, 04:33 PM

finals are done this friday, one more reg coming back at you ftp, good luck boys

JAgrazy

05-01-2007, 04:41 PM

may starts good

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/6181/graphmaynd0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Genz

05-01-2007, 04:45 PM

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I may return, but I'm actually quite happy with life since I've quit.. it was fun coming home from work and losing a week's paycheck in 30 minutes. That's when I knew I shouldn't play anymore. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

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I wish you all the best. Maybe some day you'll find the idea appealing to play a little just for fun at stakes that don't stress you out. I'm looking forward to it. In my own experience, one never really quits playing poker. And I tried to quit a few times myself. /images/graemlins/smile.gif It's just that this game gets the best of oneself so damn fast.

wildzer0

05-01-2007, 04:45 PM

I hate you may

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f237/wildzer0/badluck.jpg

Genz

05-01-2007, 04:46 PM

when will there be a final release of this software? I'd look in the software forums myself but I forgot the name of the tool so I don't know what I'd have to look for.

wildzer0

05-01-2007, 04:50 PM

Phil is still beta testing now, but I think he's getting ready to release it any day now.

Ikaika

05-01-2007, 05:08 PM

Ugh my May started off terribly. Last night I was at 10nl on Stars HU with some 65/12/4 idiot. The following hand goes down to end my session; effective stacks of $35 to start.

Hero has AJ, raises to .4
Villain calls
Flop: JJ6
Hero bets pot, villain raises to 6, Hero calls.
Turn: brick
Hero checks, villain bets 12, Hero shoves, villain snap calls.
River: brick

Villain shows J6o, hero cries.

.xxxx.

05-01-2007, 05:24 PM

is anyone's evil twin, total winnings, beating Sklansky bucks?

Chomp

05-01-2007, 05:45 PM

So let me get this straight...you put villains on ranges, and then bet/raise/fold/check/whatever accordingly?

Ok, sounds easy enough...so, ranges, ranges, hmmmmmm....

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter (http://www.learnhowtoplaypokerfree.com/convert/convert.cgi) Courtesy of PokerZion.com (http://PokerZion.com)

saw flop|saw showdown

CO ($66.05)
Button ($51.95)
Hero ($49.50)
BB ($44.75)
UTG ($141.40)
MP ($139.56)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls $0.50, MP raises to $3, 1 fold, Button calls $3, Hero raises to $13, 1 fold, UTG folds, MP calls $10, Button calls $10.

Flop: ($40) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $5, Button calls $38.95 (All-In), Hero folds, MP calls $33.95.

Turn: ($117.90) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($117.90) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $117.90

Results in white below:
MP has Ks Ts (flush, ace high).
Button has 9c 5c (high card, ace).
Outcome: MP wins $117.90.

Triggerle

05-01-2007, 05:55 PM

If you 3bet PF and then check the flop you have given up on the hand already so it doesn't matter much what he had.

dirtylobster

05-01-2007, 06:02 PM

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I wish FT was rigged in my favor

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fyp

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FYP

dirtylobster

05-01-2007, 06:09 PM

I've been thinking about when (and how much) to cash out some spending money from my bankroll but I haven't come up with a decent solution... until now! I just had this brilliant idea that I'll withdraw my rakeback and only my rakeback once a month! This way I get the motivation to get more hands in, and it makes me less result-oriented as the rake is the same whether I lose a pot or win it. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Chomp

05-01-2007, 06:09 PM

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If you 3bet PF and then check the flop you have given up on the hand already so it doesn't matter much what he had.

[/ QUOTE ]

I knew someone would say this lol.

So you make a pot-committing cbet here with this flop texture, into 2 players, in a 3bet pot, with zero FE against better hands, and very little liklihood of villains having draws?

Serious question.

jonyy6788

05-01-2007, 06:16 PM

Betting that flop would be spew....

dirtylobster

05-01-2007, 06:17 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Betting that flop would be spew....

[/ QUOTE ]

EMc

05-01-2007, 06:19 PM

Last day of class + study day tomorrow = drinky time.

Tickner

05-01-2007, 06:20 PM

Chomp, you played it well. Cbetting is just silly in that spot.

Triggerle

05-01-2007, 06:22 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Betting that flop would be spew....

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm not saying that betting is right. With this flop I check/fold and focus on the next table. This necessarily means that my opponents have a great opportunity to bluff but that's just something I can't do anything about.

fees

05-01-2007, 06:24 PM

3 days left of school and i have 2 write a paper.. BEATS SICK SICK SICK BEATS

Tickner

05-01-2007, 06:25 PM

They have a GREAT opportunity to bluff if they KNOW you have KK. They dont. They look at their cards and thats it.

kaz2107

05-01-2007, 06:28 PM

why does tha lil flying mail logo not go away on my screen n e more?!?!!? is this just a 2p2 error that is happening right now?!!??!

Triggerle

05-01-2007, 06:32 PM

[ QUOTE ]
They have a GREAT opportunity to bluff if they KNOW you have KK. They dont. They look at their cards and thats it.

[/ QUOTE ]
In their little minds you don't have an Ace if you don't cbet here. Of course, this opens a lot of opportunities for us if we do have an Ace and run into similar situations (possibly not quite that scary ones) again.

Edit: And I don't think the 95 guy looked at his cards and thought he was ahead.

jonyy6788

05-01-2007, 06:38 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
They have a GREAT opportunity to bluff if they KNOW you have KK. They dont. They look at their cards and thats it.

[/ QUOTE ]
In their little minds you don't have an Ace if you don't cbet here. Of course, this opens a lot of opportunities for us if we do have an Ace and run into similar situations (possibly not quite that scary ones) again.

Edit: And I don't think the 95 guy looked at his cards and thought he was ahead.

[/ QUOTE ]

but we can look at ours and pretty much know that we're beat....put the hand into context

we're not gonna fire a $20 shell three ways into an ace high flop when two people called a [censored] ton PF

Triggerle

05-01-2007, 06:43 PM

[ QUOTE ]
but we can look at ours and pretty much know that we're beat....put the hand into context

we're not gonna fire a $20 shell three ways into an ace high flop when two people called a [censored] ton PF

[/ QUOTE ]
Let me quote myself:
[ QUOTE ]
With this flop I check/fold and focus on the next table.

[/ QUOTE ]

PJo336

05-01-2007, 07:36 PM

I sent full tilt an email saturday nite, why do they hate me /images/graemlins/frown.gif

ajml

05-01-2007, 07:44 PM

ugh having to deal with full tilt for anything is so awful. sometimes they get back to my emails in 24 hours (they actually did yesterday regarding a withdrawl), other times its taken them 3-4 days. good luck

NL Newbie

05-01-2007, 07:44 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter (http://www.learnhowtoplaypokerfree.com/convert/convert.cgi) Courtesy of PokerZion.com (http://PokerZion.com)

MP ($55.55)
CO ($50.67)
Hero ($59.10)
SB ($48.90)
BB ($99.18)
UTG ($17.09)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
1 fold, MP calls $0.50, CO raises to $1, Hero calls $1, 2 folds, MP calls $0.50.

Flop: ($3.75) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
MP checks, CO bets $3, Hero raises to $10, MP calls $10, CO calls $7.

Turn: ($33.75) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
MP checks, CO checks, Hero calls $48.10 (All-In), MP calls $44.55 (All-In), CO calls $39.67 (All-In).

come on!!!! call you bitches!!!! MP i dunno wtf u have set?lower flush? CO you have AK, like duhhhh. *DONT PAIR THE BOARD, DONT PAIR THE BOARD, DONT PAIR THE BOARD*

River: ($166.07) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players, 3 all-in)

*[censored] big pot, i bet i somehow lose this [censored] now /images/graemlins/frown.gif.... Eeeeeeeek???*

Final Pot: $166.07

Results in white below: 
MP has Jh Qh (flush, ace high).
CO has Kc Ac (two pair, aces and kings).
Hero has Th 9h (flush, ace high).
Outcome: MP wins $162.51. Hero wins $3.55. 
[censored] MONKEY SHAGGING BENDER!!!!!!!

Then he raped me for $15 on this....

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (4 handed) Hand History converter (http://www.learnhowtoplaypokerfree.com/convert/convert.cgi) Courtesy of PokerZion.com (http://PokerZion.com)

Button ($162.67)
SB ($51.15)
Hero ($50)
UTG ($114.27)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif.
1 fold, Button raises to $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.50.

Flop: ($2.25) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $1.5, Hero raises to $5, Button calls $3.50.

Turn: ($12.25) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $8, Button calls $8.

River: ($28.25) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $15.5, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $43.75

[censored]!!!!

Then he sits out after he makes like 2.5buyins in less than 5 minutes.

Still, not as bad as loosing a 750BB pot at NL$100 /images/graemlins/frown.gif

PJo336

05-01-2007, 07:47 PM

[ QUOTE ]
ugh having to deal with full tilt for anything is so awful. sometimes they get back to my emails in 24 hours (they actually did yesterday regarding a withdrawl), other times its taken them 3-4 days. good luck

[/ QUOTE ]

Thanks sir, although im slightly angered at them that they responded to you even tho i sent mine 2 days before you AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

0uTpLaYeD

05-01-2007, 08:16 PM

Anyone wanna trade ~$300-$500 on Pokerstars for Full Tilt $?

I NEED ON FULL TILT

wildzer0

05-01-2007, 08:17 PM

Played 3k hands today, made $284 less than Sklansky bucks would indicate at 50nl. [censored] May.

checkmate36

05-01-2007, 08:35 PM

May is off to a good start /images/graemlins/grin.gif

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter (http://www.learnhowtoplaypokerfree.com/convert/convert.cgi) Courtesy of PokerZion.com (http://PokerZion.com)

saw flop|saw showdown

SB ($6.82)
BB ($4.09)
UTG ($4.71)
Hero ($5.89)
CO ($9.82)
Button ($14.01)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.2, CO raises to $0.35, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.15.

Flop: ($0.77) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.2, CO raises to $0.8, Hero calls $0.60.

Turn: ($2.37) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1.55, Hero raises to $4.74, CO calls $3.19.

River: ($11.85) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)

Final Pot: $11.85

Results below:
Hero has 5d 5h (three of a kind, fives).
CO has Kc Kd (one pair, kings).
Outcome: Hero wins $11.85.

Ikaika

05-01-2007, 08:41 PM

Ugh May is already raping me and its less than 24 hours in.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

SB ($8.05)
BB ($10)
UTG ($5.15)
MP ($5.50)
CO ($11.55)
Hero ($12.35)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
1 fold, MP calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.10, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.40) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP bets $0.2, Hero calls $0.20, SB calls $0.20, BB folds.

Turn: ($1) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
SB checks, MP bets $0.9, Hero calls $0.90, SB raises to $2, MP calls $1.10, Hero raises to $8, SB calls $5.75 (All-In), MP folds.

River: ($18.75) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $18.75

Results in white below:
SB has Ah 8c (three of a kind, eights).
Hero has Qs 8s (three of a kind, eights).
Outcome: SB wins $18.50. Hero wins $0.25.

Sigh...

fees

05-01-2007, 10:24 PM

where the [censored] is koloture?

jonyy6788

05-01-2007, 10:26 PM

O VARIANCE HOW I HATE AND LOVE YOU. It's about time I bound my boomswitch after 15k hands of nothing.

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/9833/niceruntt3.jpg

.xxxx.

05-01-2007, 10:28 PM

kolo is moving to Argentina right?

trixter23

05-01-2007, 10:54 PM

[ QUOTE ]
O VARIANCE HOW I HATE AND LOVE YOU. It's about time I bound my boomswitch after 15k hands of nothing.

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/9833/niceruntt3.jpg

[/ QUOTE ]

very nice

.xxxx.

05-01-2007, 10:58 PM

ftp acting up for anybody else?

trixter23

05-01-2007, 11:01 PM

working for me

HotdogPoker

05-01-2007, 11:20 PM

Folded my first set in a loooong time tonight and am I glad I did:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

MP ($12.85)
CO ($16.50)
Button ($21.25)
SB ($12.15)
BB ($23.60)
Hero ($31.80)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, CO calls $1, Button calls $1, 2 folds.

Flop: ($3.35) T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $3, CO raises to $6, Button raises to $20.25, Hero folds, CO calls $9.50 (All-In).

Turn: ($42.10) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($42.10) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $42.10

Results in white below: 
CO has Jc Qs (straight, queen high).
Button has 7h 6h (straight flush, ten high).
Outcome: Button wins $42.10.

jonyy6788

05-01-2007, 11:28 PM

I actually hate that fold

assuming CO comes along (he will like almost always) you're getting 2.46:1 on your money and you're 30% to hit (more like 35% BUT he happened to have straight flush draw.

also..w/out CO coming along you're getting 1.92:1, so calling is basically neutral

Peter Harris

05-01-2007, 11:42 PM

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/3586/may1xl1.jpg

mmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Pete wants all days to be like May 1 plz thx

GSykes

05-02-2007, 12:19 AM

Well you will probably see me playing I play stars 6max 25nl. Hoping to put in 25k hands this month.

tehDiceman

05-02-2007, 01:00 AM

what percentage of the pot do you have to contribute to be pot committed? 50%? 60%? more? not necessarily all in committed either, just to the point that you should call a bet on the river whether you like it or not.

jonyy6788

05-02-2007, 01:03 AM

[ QUOTE ]
what percentage of the pot do you have to contribute to be pot committed? 50%? 60%? more? not necessarily all in committed either, just to the point that you should call a bet on the river whether you like it or not.

[/ QUOTE ]

it depends on what kind of odds you're being offered to call

let's say your stack is $10, 60% ($6 is in, so pot is $12)....you would only have $4 behind. If villain puts me all-in I'm paying $4 to win $16.....16:4 is 4:1, so I'm basically never folding unless the board is flushed or some crap. you only have to win 20% of the time to break even

ajml

05-02-2007, 01:18 AM

rest of may please be like today minus as many hands

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4444/5107yq1.jpg

PJo336

05-02-2007, 01:36 AM

what sites that on ajml?

ajml

05-02-2007, 01:41 AM

Poker Stars, I'm in the US and I didn't get rakeback on FT when I signed up

PJo336

05-02-2007, 01:50 AM

ive been thinking bout switchin cuz FT has been pissin me off with their support, but I have rake back there and a nice bonus going

ajml

05-02-2007, 02:02 AM

I believe that FT with rakeback is much better than Stars. I've figured out that as a Platinum Star (about 40K-42K hands a month at 50NL I think) you make about $.80 per 100 hands. I dont know if stars rake structure is the same as FT but based on my rake from today on stars with 25% RB I would have made like $1.05 per 100 hands. Factor in FTs player points (even though they suck) and bonuses and its a much better choice. Damn I really need to get some RB there....

(and assume I did my math right which is unlikely)

PJo336

05-02-2007, 02:29 AM

Do you think games are of equal skill at both sites? Ive heard that stars is much easier to beat at all levels, naturally I wouldnt know, just what ive heard.

Also, I had a friend that signed up without rakeback. He simply emailed support at tilt telling them to close that account. Once it was closed he opened a new one with a diff email address but the same name and got rake back on it. Idk if this is suppose to slide by, but he did this in October I believe and hasnt heard anything from it. Rake back is pretty solid, it might be worth considering.

PJo336

05-02-2007, 02:29 AM

However, FTPs support sucks, so screw them

spyderracing

05-02-2007, 02:33 AM

May goals:
-play 60-90k hands at 50nl
-win at atleast 4bb/100 (is that so much to ask??!?!?)
-turn my doomswitch off
-post way more hands in here

PJo336

05-02-2007, 02:53 AM

[ QUOTE ]
May goals:
-play 40-80k hands at 50nl
-win at atleast 5bb/100 (is that so much to ask??!?!?)
-make enuff to not need a real summer job
-post way less hands in here, because that means im confused less

[/ QUOTE ]

Tickner

05-02-2007, 03:36 AM

anyone that wants to upload pics, etc, i made a quick script:

http://www.pkrimages.com/

You can upload pics and it displays the URL to it. Just something quick I made up. Ill make it look fanceir etc some day but for now the functonality is there

Thuey11

05-02-2007, 04:24 AM

Well i have finally put money on partypoker and will be joining you micro guys. I want to get pokertracker and pokergrapher/pokerpatterns. Which one is better and can i please have the link because when i try downloading pokergrapher it always messes up. BTW so far in two days and about 2.5K hands im up 10 buyins at 25nl!

ama0330

05-02-2007, 04:28 AM

[ QUOTE ]
anyone that wants to upload pics, etc, i made a quick script:

http://www.pkrimages.com/

You can upload pics and it displays the URL to it. Just something quick I made up. Ill make it look fanceir etc some day but for now the functonality is there

[/ QUOTE ]

/images/graemlins/heart.gif

Tickner

05-02-2007, 05:20 AM

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh/))

SB: $215.40
BB: $513.47
UTG: $469.20
MP: $238.45
CO: $22.95
Hero (BTN): $246.65

Reads: ok so villain is 44/22 here. Notice this new feature? Cool eh?

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (6 Players)
UTG raises to $7, 2 folds, Hero raises to $24, 2 folds, UTG calls $17

Flop: ($51) K/images/graemlins/club.gif 9/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $38, UTG calls $38

Turn: ($127) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $89, UTG calls $89

River: ($305) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
UTG bets $97, Hero calls all-in for $95.65
Uncalled bet of $1.35 returned to UTG

Pot Size: $496.30 ($3 Rake)

UTG had K/images/graemlins/spade.gif J/images/graemlins/club.gif (a straight Nine to King) and WON ( $246.65)
Hero had Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (three of a kind, Queens) and LOST (-$246.65)

New READS feature on the converter. Figure it helps to promote people giving reads on hands they post and also thought it'd be cool to add.

dirtylobster

05-02-2007, 06:31 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Reads: ok so villain is 44/22 here. Notice this new feature? Cool eh?

[/ QUOTE ]

Nice!

Peter Harris

05-02-2007, 06:32 AM

holy crap ticky i didnt realise LegoPoker was your creation!

nh

dirtylobster

05-02-2007, 06:35 AM

[ QUOTE ]
River: ($305) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
UTG bets $97, Hero calls all-in for $95.65

[/ QUOTE ]

I also make crying calls here but you're paying $96 to win $500 and he has a straight here 9 times out of 10 or at least 4 times out of 5 to make this an at best break-even call. What other hands did you put him on that he would lead the river with? Just representing the straight as the only hope to take the pot down?

Tickner

05-02-2007, 07:07 AM

bluffs, missed FDs, kings, worse queens, etc. Getting 5-1 vs this opponent I call all day.

Gelford

05-02-2007, 07:13 AM

On a 2+2 holliday, not posting much ,but I couldn't help chime in here. Weaktight is never right, but 200NL is full of tards ... just of the top of my head this hand from earlier today comes to mind.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh/))

SB: $239.65
Hero (BB): $200
UTG: $260.40
MP: $122.70
CO: $210.25
BTN: $123.90

Reads: No read, first orbit.

Preflop: Hero is dealt T/images/graemlins/spade.gif T/images/graemlins/club.gif (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $2, CO calls $2, BTN calls $2, SB raises to $6, Hero raises to $20, MP calls $18, CO calls $18, BTN folds, SB calls $14

Flop: ($82) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 3/images/graemlins/club.gif 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (4 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $70, 2 folds, SB calls $70

Turn: ($222) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
SB bets all-in for $149.65, Hero calls all-in for $110
Uncalled bet of $39.65 returned to SB

River: ($442) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $442 ($3 Rake)

SB had 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/spade.gif (a pair of Sevens) and LOST (-$200)
Hero had T/images/graemlins/spade.gif T/images/graemlins/club.gif (a pair of Tens) and WON (+$239)

If you dont start loosening up your calling requirements, you are going to get slaugthered. Tickners call was teh EZ.

This call was also fairly easy, hand shown to illustrate what kind of crap villians are trying to pull.

kaz2107

05-02-2007, 07:41 AM

pretty sure tickners call is fine at 200nl but deff not needed at 25nl or probably 50nl for that matter. people just dont bluff those type of hands at lower limits.

Dastone

05-02-2007, 07:43 AM

Hey all, I'm gonna try to stop watching so much tv. Anybody want to reccomend some good books?

kaz2107

05-02-2007, 07:46 AM

fooled by randomness by taleb (i think???)

super good and applies to poker and everyday life really well.

read nonfiction stuff that interests u so that u r actually gainin sumtin by tha change in activity. fiction isnt too much better then tv. so many good noonfiction books tho /images/graemlins/smile.gif i wish i would get myself to read more

Gelford

05-02-2007, 07:50 AM

Yep Fooled by randomness is cool (and it is Taleb)

Tickner

05-02-2007, 07:50 AM

im gonna make Reads: a blue color so it stands out better..

Dastone

05-02-2007, 07:55 AM

Yeah I'll probably go for something like that. I haven't read a book in years, excluding poker books, but I've alway preffered reading biographies, and the like. Thanks for the reccomendation.

munkey

05-02-2007, 08:22 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Yep Fooled by randomness is cool (and it is Taleb)

[/ QUOTE ]

ZOMG taleb discusion in uNL /images/graemlins/shocked.gif
then again it is kaz and gelford /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Yes that is a good book I hear it was no.1 US some time ago which really surprises me. I guess no -one else has read his exotic options one...

Defintely a pleasing read and gets across concepts poke r players should understand.

I can't remember the name of the donkey when your not sure what to do though that decides for you whether to raise/fold.

I hear gelford's donkeys' only goes to the raise side...

barryc83

05-02-2007, 10:00 AM

Fooled by Randomness kinda sucks IMO. I mean the gist of it is good and all, but his writing style is that of a presumptuous douche bag. If he didnt try to write in a way to make himself seem really intelligent (which he obv is), then I'd like it better. My 2c.

kaz2107

05-02-2007, 10:43 AM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Yep Fooled by randomness is cool (and it is Taleb)

[/ QUOTE ]

ZOMG taleb discusion in uNL /images/graemlins/shocked.gif
then again it is kaz and gelford /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Yes that is a good book I hear it was no.1 US some time ago which really surprises me. I guess no -one else has read his exotic options one...

Defintely a pleasing read and gets across concepts poke r players should understand.

I can't remember the name of the donkey when your not sure what to do though that decides for you whether to raise/fold.

I hear gelford's donkeys' only goes to the raise side...

[/ QUOTE ]
wuts tha name of tha other one?!!?!? im kinda interested and wouldnt mind readin sumtin else by him.

barry dont b a hater. tha dude is clearly bad ass thus can sound like a dick in his book obv.

i wanna get into readin more stuff like this. lets start a micro book club over tha summer /images/graemlins/smile.gif

munkey

05-02-2007, 11:20 AM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Yep Fooled by randomness is cool (and it is Taleb)

[/ QUOTE ]

ZOMG taleb discusion in uNL /images/graemlins/shocked.gif
then again it is kaz and gelford /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Yes that is a good book I hear it was no.1 US some time ago which really surprises me. I guess no -one else has read his exotic options one...

Defintely a pleasing read and gets across concepts poke r players should understand.

I can't remember the name of the donkey when your not sure what to do though that decides for you whether to raise/fold.

I hear gelford's donkeys' only goes to the raise side...

[/ QUOTE ]
wuts tha name of tha other one?!!?!? im kinda interested and wouldnt mind readin sumtin else by him.

barry dont b a hater. tha dude is clearly bad ass thus can sound like a dick in his book obv.

i wanna get into readin more stuff like this. lets start a micro book club over tha summer /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

I just googled books by him here (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw/103-5410024-4085404?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=nassim+taleb&Go.x=0&Go.y=0&Go=Go)- the one I meant was dynamic hedging I read for some uni coursework - this is not a for fun book it's a specialist math finance book.

But I didn't know he wrote this Black Swan one- I might have to get it for my holidays away = is this teh one ur on about?

Barry , he's an academic but also with one foot in the real world of global derivatives and that reflects his style of referring to classic stuff. These kinds of writers are pretty rare IMHO and u must remember his style in this is to appeal to a wide audience.

BTW if you like market trading type stuff I got a list of some good ones - The Market wizards series by Schwager is quite good as a start. Similarish and a decent read is Mandelbrot's "Misbehaviour of Markets" or sumtin like that as in:

http://picturethis.pnl.gov/im2/madelbrot_set0/madelbrot_set.jpg

Any suggestions kaz, or anyone else books to get for my summer holidays ?
obv when i'm not drinking/surfing/eating/e.t.c /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

kazana

05-02-2007, 11:40 AM

"Chilling on Beaches for Dummies"
Just a suggestion

HotdogPoker

05-02-2007, 11:43 AM

[ QUOTE ]
I actually hate that fold

assuming CO comes along (he will like almost always) you're getting 2.46:1 on your money and you're 30% to hit (more like 35% BUT he happened to have straight flush draw.

also..w/out CO coming along you're getting 1.92:1, so calling is basically neutral

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, I agree (in retrospect). I stoved the numbers afterwards and it looked like it should have been a call, albeit a thin one. I knew it was close while the hand was being played out, but the presence of two opponents worried me a bit. It's pretty much a given that one of them has the straight which I wasn't worried about, but I was more worried about the set over set in addition to that. MUBS?

munkey

05-02-2007, 11:46 AM

[ QUOTE ]
"Chilling on Beaches for Dummies"
Just a suggestion

[/ QUOTE ]

/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I can't sit on the beach for more than 20mins, gotta do something if only drinking and looking :P

kazana

05-02-2007, 11:59 AM

"Drinking & Looking While Chilling on Beaches for Dummies" then

kabouter

05-02-2007, 12:14 PM

Screw May, second day in a row that I'm up $200 and manage to lose it just as fast.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $130.78
BB: $155.78
UTG: $98.90
MP: $126.85
Hero (CO): $159.45
BTN: $118.15

Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $1, Hero raises to $5, 3 folds, MP calls $4

Flop: ($11.50) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
MP checks, Hero bets $9, MP raises to $40, Hero raises all-in to $154.45, MP calls all-in for $81.85
Uncalled bet of $32.60 returned to Hero

Turn: ($255.20) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($255.20) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $255.20 ($3 Rake)

MP had T/images/graemlins/spade.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (two pairs, Kings and Tens) and WON (+$125.35)
Hero had A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (a pair of Aces) and LOST (-$126.85)

I admit this second hand was played bad (well not by me in the beginning ofcourse, but I knew he had a flush just couldn't lay it down.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh/))

SB: $239.25
Hero (BB): $119.90
UTG: $67.30
MP: $100
CO: $195
BTN: $153.60

Preflop: Hero is dealt K/images/graemlins/club.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (6 Players)
UTG calls $1, MP folds, CO raises to $5, 2 folds, Hero raises to $16.50, UTG folds, CO calls $11.50

Flop: ($34.50) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif 7/images/graemlins/club.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $28.50, CO calls $28.50

Turn: ($91.50) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO bets $41, Hero raises all-in to $74.90, CO calls $33.90

River: ($241.30) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $241.30 ($3 Rake)

CO had Q/images/graemlins/club.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif (a flush, Ace high) and WON (+$118.40)
Hero had K/images/graemlins/club.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (a pair of Kings) and LOST (-$119.90)

Piece of Cake

05-02-2007, 12:42 PM

Seriously if lol donkaments can raise 30k for charity - you'd think we could raise a little money to keep this site running. I don't know how many times a day I can't get 2p2 to load. Isn't that what all these ads are for anyway?

PJo336

05-02-2007, 12:45 PM

first one kabouter ouch, second shame shame..

Yeh my 2+2 is always slow as hell

better than FTP SUPPORT OMFGKMNPICFSTS

tehDiceman

05-02-2007, 01:22 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Seriously if lol donkaments can raise 30k for charity - you'd think we could raise a little money to keep this site running. I don't know how many times a day I can't get 2p2 to load. Isn't that what all these ads are for anyway?

[/ QUOTE ]

you obviously have no clue how much money decent hosting costs, not to mention the amount of traffic this site has. just think of it as internet variance, learn to embrace it.

i have discovered a whole new world.....semi lag. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif
i just played a 41/30 game for 20 minutes on one table and literally rolled over every villian that sat down. they didnt know what hit them.

btw, this change in play is a result of my latest video feedback.

Chomp

05-02-2007, 01:58 PM

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE MAKE IT STOP

......................................

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter (http://www.learnhowtoplaypokerfree.com/convert/convert.cgi) Courtesy of PokerZion.com (http://PokerZion.com)

saw flop|saw showdown

BB ($97.26)
UTG ($54.40)
MP ($56.55)
Hero ($67.50)
Button ($57.15)
SB ($49.50)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
2 folds, Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, BB raises to $3.5, Hero raises to $14, BB calls $10.50.

Flop: ($28.25) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $18, BB raises to $36, Hero calls $35.50 (All-In), BB calls $17.50.

Turn: ($135.25) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($135.25) T/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $135.25

Results:
BB has 4c 4h (three of a kind, fours).
Hero has Ad As (one pair, aces).
Outcome: BB wins $135.25.

tehDiceman

05-02-2007, 02:04 PM

wow, how does he reraise you with 44. you must have had an extremely loose image or he was a complete donkey.

Hoffma

05-02-2007, 02:09 PM

Biggest pot I have ever seen at 5NL, WOOH!!!

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.02/$0.05 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $3.01
BB: $3.92
UTG: $17.08
Hero (MP): $13.92
CO: $2
BTN: $9.42

Reads: SB is 80/5/1.7, UTG is 54/20/1.0 over a small sample, maybe 100 hands. They are chit-chatting back and forth about the swingy sessions they are having today and making small talk about school.

Preflop: Hero is dealt 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif (6 Players)
UTG calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.25, CO calls $0.25, BTN folds, SB calls $0.23, BB folds, UTG calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.05) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif T/images/graemlins/heart.gif 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 Players)
SB bets $0.20, UTG calls $0.20, Hero raises to $1.75, CO folds, SB raises all-in to $2.76, UTG raises all-in to $16.83, Hero calls all-in for $11.92
Uncalled bet of $3.16 returned to UTG

Turn: ($31.15) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 Players - 3 All-In)

River: ($31.15) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 Players - 3 All-In)

Pot Size: $31.15 ($1.55 Rake)

SB had 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (a pair of Sevens) and LOST (-$3.01)
UTG had T/images/graemlins/club.gif 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (two pair, Tens and Sevens) and LOST (-$13.92)
Hero had 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif (three of a kind, Eights) and WON (+$15.68)

UTG said, "knew i sholdnt have called"
UTG said, "nh"
SB said, "where is my heart when u need it"
SB said, "lol"
UTG said, "damnit what a bad play"
SB said, "it was a good call for me"
SB said, "bad luck"
UTG said, "shoulda ****ing stopped"
Button said, "two pair ok"

Five hands later:
UTG said, "im still so pissed about that"
UTG said, "i hate when i make stupid plays like that"
SB said, "yeah but u know we will getg it back sometime lol"
SB said, "i made a good call i had good odds but bad luck"

I was quaking in my boots about the possibility that J9 or 96 saw this flop, but I was so far ahead of their ranges and had outs to fill up, there's no way I'm laying down. Thanks for the ticket to valuetown, boys!

kbrat

05-02-2007, 02:12 PM

April:

http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/3097/avril2007pq2.jpg

first two days of may:

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/9200/mai2007nt8.jpg

Lets see if I hit another downswing after posting this brag.

Now time to get some studying done - need to stop reading 2p2

PJo336

05-02-2007, 02:15 PM

you can try to stop, but it wont let u...I have a test in 30 min and im still here

KaiserSose

05-02-2007, 02:18 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Biggest hand ever at 50NL woot!!!!

Yup, I like May!!!

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh/))

Hero (SB): $55.05
BB: $41.20
UTG: $23
MP: $76.85
CO: $18.75
BTN: $52.55

Preflop: Hero is dealt 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif 7/images/graemlins/club.gif (6 Players)
UTG raises to $1.75, MP raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero calls $2.75, BB calls $2.50, UTG calls $1.25

Flop: ($12) T/images/graemlins/club.gif 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 Players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.50, UTG raises to $7, MP raises to $13.50, Hero raises all-in to $52.05, BB calls all-in for $37.70, UTG calls all-in for $13, MP calls $38.55

Turn: ($174.30) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif (4 Players - 3 All-In)

River: ($174.30) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 Players - 3 All-In)

Pot Size: $174.30 ($3 Rake)

UTG had K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (a pair of Tens) and LOST (-$23)
BB had 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (a pair of Fours) and LOST (-$41.20)
MP had A/images/graemlins/club.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (a pair of Aces) and LOST (-$55.05)
Hero had 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif 7/images/graemlins/club.gif (three of a kind, Sevens) and WON (+$116.25)

[/ QUOTE ]

Not a fan of this preflop call.

kbrat

05-02-2007, 02:19 PM

Yeah I'm getting that impression too, I'll make sure I stop myself from checking 2p2 5minutes before heading to the exam tomorrow

Chomp

05-02-2007, 02:20 PM

[ QUOTE ]
wow, how does he reraise you with 44. you must have had an extremely loose image or he was a complete donkey.

[/ QUOTE ]

lol I think I was running 17/13 or something at this table. So that only leaves the other option! Ugh. I think he was running at 75/30/4 or soemthing. Sigh/puke.

barryc83

05-02-2007, 02:24 PM

cant do anything about that one chomp. you played it well, too bad the bank wont accept sklansky bux.

jonyy6788

05-02-2007, 02:58 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Not a fan of this preflop call.

[/ QUOTE ]

so standard it's not even funny....we got a raise, a MIN reraise and we're calling $2.75 to possibly win a ton....instacall implied odds R the nutz

thac

05-02-2007, 03:07 PM

For whoever was requesting books - I just bought Awaken the Giant Within by Tony Robbins and plan on reading it while I have no TV/internet in the apartment (WHICH IS ONLY 2 DAYS AWAY HOLLA~!), I'll let you know how it is.

dirtylobster

05-02-2007, 04:06 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Not a fan of this preflop call.

[/ QUOTE ]

WTF?? Would you raise? Why?

Everlong

05-02-2007, 04:09 PM

I played my first few hundred hands over at AP today.

/images/graemlins/heart.gif

I have not seen people stack off so light or call three streets with TP before.

And as icing I hit a straight flush against nutflush on my 5th or 6th hand.

Genz

05-02-2007, 04:18 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Not a fan of this preflop call.

[/ QUOTE ]

HUGE leak unless you know for some reason that the shorty will push or reraise big when it comes back around to him. Very unlikely in general and I have to risk wasting $3 in case this happens... You should revise the 5/10-rule.

Dilznoofus

05-02-2007, 04:22 PM

[ QUOTE ]
I played my first few hundred hands over at AP today.

/images/graemlins/heart.gif

I have not seen people stack off so light or call three streets with TP before.

And as icing I hit a straight flush against nutflush on my 5th or 6th hand.

[/ QUOTE ]

AP is very soft. Unfortunately it's also rigged so it kinda evens out.

fees

05-02-2007, 04:58 PM

why are READS important?

Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
hero: $226.75
CO: $187.58
Button: $99.50
SB: $191.65
BB: $126.77

Pre-flop: (5 players) hero is UTG with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif
hero raises to $4, 2 folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 8/images/graemlins/club.gif 3/images/graemlins/club.gif 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($9, 2 players)
SB checks, hero bets $6, SB calls.

Turn: J/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($21, 2 players)
SB checks, hero bets $13, SB raises to $35, hero calls.

River: A/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($91, 2 players)
SB bets $60, hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $211
SB Shows Kc 7c
hero Shows 10h 10d

also:

I HAVE THE BIG HEART

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 2 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

Hero (BB): $213.40
SB: $220.90

Preflop: Hero is dealt http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/8c.png http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/7c.png (2 Players)
SB raises to $3, Hero raises to $10, SB calls $7

Flop: ($20) http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/Ac.png http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/3s.png http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/4c.png (2 Players)
Hero bets $15, SB raises to $55, Hero raises all-in to $203.40, SB folds
Uncalled bet of $148.40 returned to Hero

Pot Size: $130 ($0.50 Rake)

THIS IS WHAT I HAVE

0evg0

05-02-2007, 05:14 PM

dude,

both of those hands are so terribly standard it's not even funny

fees

05-02-2007, 05:17 PM

lol? this is not hsnl, these are not standard

Vyse

05-02-2007, 05:19 PM

rofl, you're just too good for us evg

kaz2107

05-02-2007, 05:52 PM

[ QUOTE ]
dude,

both of those hands are so terribly standard it's not even funny

[/ QUOTE ]u sir r wrong and if these r standard lines for u at 50nl u r runnin insanely hott atm to get a such a good rate

0uTpLaYeD

05-02-2007, 05:52 PM

PM me if anyone needs money on stars for full tilt ~$400

Dilznoofus

05-02-2007, 06:23 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
dude,

both of those hands are so terribly standard it's not even funny

[/ QUOTE ]u sir r wrong and if these r standard lines for u at 50nl u r runnin insanely hott atm to get a such a good rate

[/ QUOTE ]

And he plays without reads too.

Triggerle

05-02-2007, 06:31 PM

This is how my May started:

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/3503/0502rr5.jpg

EverestPoker Game #1473092267: Table Doha-2 - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:36:14 - 2007/05/02
Seat 1: SB ($65.55)
Seat 2: Hero ($50.00)
Seat 4: UTG ($9.50)
Seat 5: MP ($89.79)
Seat 6: Button ($52.79)

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero[T/images/graemlins/spade.gif T/images/graemlins/club.gif]
UTG folds, MP calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50, SB folds, Hero raises to $3.50, MP calls $3.00, Button calls $3.00.

*** FLOP *** [9/images/graemlins/spade.gif 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif]
Hero bets $8.00, MP calls $8.00, Button calls $8.00.

*** TURN *** [9/images/graemlins/spade.gif 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif] [T/images/graemlins/heart.gif]
Hero bets $38.50 and is all-in, MP calls $38.50, Button raises to $41.29 and is all-in, MP calls $2.79.

*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero shows [T/images/graemlins/spade.gif T/images/graemlins/club.gif]
MP shows [7/images/graemlins/spade.gif 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif]
Button shows [6/images/graemlins/heart.gif 7/images/graemlins/club.gif]

*** RIVER *** [9/images/graemlins/spade.gif 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif T/images/graemlins/heart.gif] [7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif]

*** SUMMARY ***
MP collects $74.25
Button collects $74.25

EverestPoker Game #1473358266: Table Doha-5 - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:32:51 - 2007/05/02
Seat 1: BB ($36.10)
Seat 2: UTG ($31.70)
Seat 3: MP ($30.77)
Seat 4: Hero ($46.75)
Seat 5: Button ($108.30)
Seat 6: SB ($31.26)

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero[Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif K/images/graemlins/club.gif]
UTG folds, Hero raises to $2.00, Button folds, SB calls $1.75, BB folds.

*** FLOP *** [Q/images/graemlins/club.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/spade.gif]
SB checks, Hero bets $4.00, SB calls $4.00.

*** TURN *** [Q/images/graemlins/club.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/spade.gif] [6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif]
SB checks, Hero bets $40.75 and is all-in, SB calls $25.26 and is all-in, Uncalled bet of $15.49 returned to Hero.

*** SHOW DOWN ***
SB shows [A/images/graemlins/heart.gif 6/images/graemlins/club.gif]
Hero shows [Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif K/images/graemlins/club.gif]

*** RIVER *** [Q/images/graemlins/club.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/spade.gif 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif] [4/images/graemlins/club.gif]

*** SUMMARY ***
SB collects $61.02

EverestPoker Game #1473383550: Table Doha-54 - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:38:24 - 2007/05/02
Seat 1: BB ($74.70)
Seat 2: UTG ($56.15)
Seat 3: Hero ($48.25)
Seat 4: CO ($85.30)
Seat 5: Button ($72.70)
Seat 6: SB ($61.75)

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero[A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif]
UTG folds, Hero raises to $2.00, CO calls $2.00, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls $1.50.

*** FLOP *** [K/images/graemlins/heart.gif T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 9/images/graemlins/club.gif]
BB checks, Hero bets $5.00, CO calls $5.00, BB folds.

*** TURN *** [K/images/graemlins/heart.gif T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 9/images/graemlins/club.gif] [7/images/graemlins/spade.gif]
Hero bets $14.00, CO calls $14.00.

*** RIVER *** [K/images/graemlins/heart.gif T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 9/images/graemlins/club.gif 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif] [4/images/graemlins/spade.gif]
Hero bets $27.25 and is all-in, CO raises to $54.50, Uncalled bet of $27.25 returned to CO.

*** SHOW DOWN ***
CO shows [4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif]
Hero shows [A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif]

*** SUMMARY ***
CO collects $95.75

EverestPoker Game #1473242898: Table Doha-27 - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:08:08 - 2007/05/02
Seat 1: UTG ($135.37)
Seat 2: MP ($38.00)
Seat 3: CO ($24.80)
Seat 4: Button ($49.75)
Seat 5: Hero ($52.00)
Seat 6: BB ($80.60)

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero[T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif]
UTG folds, MP calls $0.50, CO folds, Button raises to $2.00, Hero calls $1.75, BB raises to $3.50, MP folds, Button calls $1.50, Hero calls $1.50.

*** FLOP *** [3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif]
Hero bets $48.50 and is all-in, BB calls $48.50, Button folds.

*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero shows [T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif]
BB shows [K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/club.gif]

*** TURN *** [3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif] [T/images/graemlins/club.gif]
*** RIVER *** [3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif T/images/graemlins/club.gif] [2/images/graemlins/club.gif]

*** SUMMARY ***
BB collects $105.00

kazana

05-02-2007, 06:33 PM

[ QUOTE ]
lol? this is not hsnl, these are not standard

[/ QUOTE ]
Hand 2 is pretty standard for an aggro player.

Hand 1: So you turned calling station and got lucky? Great play.

I can foresee a long-winded post titled "more WTSD = more $$$". Go ahead, make my day.

Vyse

05-02-2007, 06:38 PM

Tiggerle, wtf is the last hand

crushednuts

05-02-2007, 06:38 PM

YAY!! Done w/ exams...back to poker and hopefully winning some more $$

Brag: My Bankroll finally broke $1000

beat: Had to cash out $250 to pay for stuff

Triggerle

05-02-2007, 06:41 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Tiggerle, wtf is the last hand

[/ QUOTE ]

I have a combo draw and am a coinflip against his range. with quite some money in the pot due to the other retard. And yes, I was borderline tilting.

ben wb

05-02-2007, 06:51 PM

Had a frustrating session today until this hand just before I was going to quit, villain was a typical ladbrokes player, stats of 56/7/3, didn't raise much preflop but loved to check raise post flop or randomly shove all in for four times the pot, up until this hand he was up half a buyin on me but finally stacked him.

Prima Network No-Limit Hold'em, $0.20 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter (http://www.learnhowtoplaypokerfree.com/convert/convert.cgi) Courtesy of PokerZion.com (http://PokerZion.com)

BB ($18.76)
UTG ($38.80)
MP ($2.56)
Hero ($23.52)
Button ($22.79)
SB ($16.61)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls $0.20, MP calls $0.20, Hero raises to $1.2, 3 folds, UTG calls $1, MP folds.

Flop: ($2.90) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($2.90) A/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
UTG bets $1.45, Hero raises to $6, UTG calls $4.55.

River: ($14.90) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
UTG bets $3.72, Hero raises to $16.32 (All-In), UTG calls $16.32.

Final Pot: $45.19

UTG has Ah Js (two pair, aces and jacks).
Hero has Qd Ks (straight, ace high).
Outcome: Hero wins $45.19.

Ended with a slight profit.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v367/2hats/today.jpg

prodonkey

05-02-2007, 06:53 PM

I wouldn't really call that a combo draw.. since you know your pair outs aren't good.. and u have a gutshot. Maybe u should post hands like these in the forum. You got all your money in behind in 3 of the 4, not exactly bad beats.

Triggerle

05-02-2007, 06:58 PM

[ QUOTE ]
You got all your money in behind in 3 of the 4, not exactly bad beats.

[/ QUOTE ]
That makes it even more frustrating, if you know what I mean. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Edit: Pokerstove this against his range. It's 49/51.

prodonkey

05-02-2007, 07:08 PM

Well that depends on his range.. vs a range I'd give him for calling your open shove there i'd give u about 40% equity.

Triggerle

05-02-2007, 07:10 PM

When shoving combo draws first in you have to go with the PF range.

prodonkey

05-02-2007, 08:06 PM

uhm.. why?

thac

05-02-2007, 08:15 PM

lol that doesn't make sense. You only have a chance to win at showdown against a hand that calls.

Everlong

05-02-2007, 08:21 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[censored] this rigged pos site "Absolute Poker"

[/ QUOTE ]

FMP

I lost a 250 bb stack HU aipf AA<KK king on the river
Then I get AA against some [censored] at the table who plays every hand and he of course flops 2p with T7soooted

At this rate I'll be joining tehDiceman and co. at NL0.00001

ajml

05-02-2007, 08:49 PM

I'm a pretty big fan of May (well and a session from April 30th that was pretty boring until May hit). I'd like to move up but I am still kinda thinking I'm lucky rather than good. Any Stars 50 NL regs feel free to PM a name trade or something and you can tell me that I suck and just run hot and I'll give you any notes I have on you.

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/4024/graphqj8.jpg

Chomp

05-02-2007, 08:53 PM

ajml - does that say you've just won 20BI's in 2 days????? WTF????

ajml

05-02-2007, 09:01 PM

well more like 3, running hot is pretty nice... since i moved up to 50 NL my winrate was only like 3 pt/BBs over 30k hands until this streak

bluef0x

05-02-2007, 09:11 PM

Today:
Run sooooooper hot at $25NL.... 17ptBB/100.
Run sooooooper cold at $50NL.... -192349149911942914ptBB/100.

$50NL is impossible /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Dilznoofus

05-02-2007, 09:17 PM

I am up 15 buyins at 10NL in 1800 hands. I guess my doom switch only gets turned off after my bankroll is gone.

Vyse

05-02-2007, 10:17 PM

Kaz, delete some PMs so you can SHIP IT HOLLA

Hellmouth

05-02-2007, 10:30 PM

motherfu**Er. LOL why do I keep sucking!

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $12.70
hero: $25.90
CO: $12.70
Button: $5.60
SB: $24.85
BB: $24.35

Pre-flop: (6 players) hero is UTG+1 with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif
UTG raises to $0.5, hero raises to $2, 4 folds, UTG raises to $5, hero calls.

Flop: 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($10.35, 2 players)
UTG checks, hero bets $4, UTG raises to $8, hero raises to $16, UTG calls all-in $0.2.
Uncalled bets: $7.8 returned to hero.

Turn: 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($26.75, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $26.75)

River: 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($26.75, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $26.75)

Results:
Final pot: $26.75
UTG showed Ac Ah
hero showed Kd Ad

fees

05-02-2007, 10:40 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
lol? this is not hsnl, these are not standard

[/ QUOTE ]
Hand 2 is pretty standard for an aggro player.

Hand 1: So you turned calling station and got lucky? Great play.

I can foresee a long-winded post titled "more WTSD = more $$$". Go ahead, make my day.

[/ QUOTE ]

Did you read anything but the hands? IT WAS A READ this isnt normal for me agaisnt unknowns at 100nl... obviously (hand 1)

hand 2 is another read, 200 BB deep all in with a small FD on a dry board is pretty [censored] marginal

Played a little 6 max today, basically its too ez...

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t276/feess/may2nd.jpg

on flames to start off the month.. then ofcourse hu variance (f the haters that say I cant deal)

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t276/feess/huvariance.jpg

i could move up to 1/2 now but I think I want to pursue HU so im gonna really try and put 6 max on hold

Vyse

05-02-2007, 10:42 PM

sup minraise

Fiksdal

05-02-2007, 10:46 PM

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
5 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $9.65
CO: $11.65
Button: $16.85
SB: $8.85
Hero: $14.15

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif
UTG folds, CO raises to $0.35, Button calls, SB raises all-in $8.85, Hero calls, CO folds, Button calls.

Flop: 5/images/graemlins/club.gif 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 7/images/graemlins/club.gif ($26.9, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $26.9)
Hero is all-in $5.3, Button calls.

Turn: J/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($37.5, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $26.9, Sidepot 1: $10.6)

River: 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($37.5, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $26.9, Sidepot 1: $10.6)

Results:
Final pot: $37.5
SB showed Ad Kd
Hero showed 6h 5d
Button showed Js Ah

How did I play this hand? The pusher was very agressive

Vyse

05-02-2007, 10:47 PM

wtf? Horribly.

Fiksdal

05-02-2007, 10:48 PM

lol O RLY, are you sure? preflop was a misclick obv. Still up this session though /images/graemlins/smile.gif

wildzer0

05-02-2007, 10:49 PM

[ QUOTE ]

How did I play this hand? The pusher was very agressive

[/ QUOTE ]

Really badly, folding preflop is the only correct move.

checkmate36

05-02-2007, 10:50 PM

So far May is good. I already made half of what I made in April. Plenty of time to get doomswitched however. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

wildzer0

05-02-2007, 10:51 PM

Just picked up Alan Schoonmaker's new (I think?) book today, "Your Worst Poker Enemy" After a really quick perusal it seems like it could be hugely helpful for issues a lot of uNL players struggle with.

Fiksdal

05-02-2007, 10:52 PM

haha that better have been 3rd leveling, I hope none of you thought I was actually asking for strategy advice on that hand.. lol.

wildzer0

05-02-2007, 10:54 PM

[ QUOTE ]
haha that better have been 3rd leveling, I hope none of you thought I was actually asking for strategy advice on that hand.. lol.

[/ QUOTE ]

/images/graemlins/blush.gif

Fiksdal

05-02-2007, 11:01 PM

It's funny how aggressive villains ALWAYS stack off when you bet the flop heads up and then check the turn.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
5 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $11.20
CO: $4.35
Button: $3.20
SB: $10.80
Hero: $25.20

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif
UTG calls, 3 folds, 3 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif 7/images/graemlins/club.gif ($0.25, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.25, UTG calls.

Turn: T/images/graemlins/club.gif ($0.75, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $1, Hero raises to $2.9, UTG raises all-in $10.85, Hero calls.

River: K/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($22.45, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $22.45)

Results:
Final pot: $22.45
Hero showed 7d 5d
UTG showed Qd Ah

btw, how do you play turn if you are villain?

Edit: lol this time the strategy question is serious

checkmate36

05-02-2007, 11:04 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Just picked up Alan Schoonmaker's new (I think?) book today, "Your Worst Poker Enemy" After a really quick perusal it seems like it could be hugely helpful for issues a lot of uNL players struggle with.

[/ QUOTE ]

I had no idea he had a new book out. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

wildzer0

05-02-2007, 11:10 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Just picked up Alan Schoonmaker's new (I think?) book today, "Your Worst Poker Enemy" After a really quick perusal it seems like it could be hugely helpful for issues a lot of uNL players struggle with.

[/ QUOTE ]

I had no idea he had a new book out. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, it's not on 2+2 (it's kensington). There's a lot less strategy than the last one, which I appreciate, and it concentrates more on better learning processes, maintaining self control, delving into thinking processes. I can't wait to get into this one.

I just noticed it only came out yesterday, guess I just happened in Barnes and Noble at the right time. Went to see Hot Fuzz and got there a little early so I wandered in. Hot Fuzz was no Shaun Of The Dead, but it was awesome.

tehDiceman

05-02-2007, 11:21 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[censored] this rigged pos site "Absolute Poker"

[/ QUOTE ]

FMP

I lost a 250 bb stack HU aipf AA<KK king on the river
Then I get AA against some [censored] at the table who plays every hand and he of course flops 2p with T7soooted

At this rate I'll be joining tehDiceman and co. at NL0.00001

[/ QUOTE ]

welcome to my little corner of the world, enjoy your stay. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

fees

05-02-2007, 11:23 PM

lol whats with all the AP hate, i <3 AP esp 200bb deep

HotdogPoker

05-02-2007, 11:25 PM

I think tonight is "flop bottom pair night" at stars.

Fiksdal

05-02-2007, 11:28 PM

[ QUOTE ]
I think tonight is "flop bottom pair night" at stars.

[/ QUOTE ]

guess what, at ftp it's crazy variance night. Villain in this hand is clearly an expert.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $7
UTG+1: $6.55
CO: $13.40
Button: $12.40
SB: $9.70
Hero: $10.70

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif
4 folds, SB raises to $0.3, Hero raises to $1, SB raises all-in $9.7, Hero calls.

Flop: 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($19.4, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $19.4)

Turn: J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($19.4, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $19.4)

River: 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($19.4, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $19.4)

Results:
Final pot: $19.4
SB showed 2c 7c
Hero showed Kd Ah

Nato76

05-03-2007, 12:07 AM

HAHA Dude went all in with 2 7.

Fiksdal

05-03-2007, 12:11 AM

[ QUOTE ]
HAHA Dude went all in with 2 7.

[/ QUOTE ]

rofl what up dude you are officially buddy listed!

jonyy6788

05-03-2007, 12:13 AM

[ QUOTE ]
lol that doesn't make sense. You only have a chance to win at showdown against a hand that calls.

[/ QUOTE ]

FOLD EQUITY DONKEY

tehDiceman

05-03-2007, 01:09 AM

today has been a joke. started off alright and then hit like 5 or 6 hands in a row where i flop second nuts and give villians no credit, or villians check call every bet, or check raise every bet or i flop nothing at all and have to give up.

flush two buyins down the crapper. some of it was bad play on my part, a lot of it was stars dicking me as usual.

Brian O'Nolan

05-03-2007, 02:42 AM

Rewinding to poker related books... Blink by Malcolm Gladwell is a good read. Describes how your subconscious is much better at pattern recognition than your conscious thought process.

Tickner

05-03-2007, 02:50 AM

guys i didnt forget about those articles i promised in april.... patience /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Fiksdal

05-03-2007, 04:52 AM

OMG EVERYBODY EVEN uNL IS GETTING NITTY NOW AND I'M NOT GETTING PAID OFF WITH MY BIG HANDS ANYMORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$0.05/$0.10 Blinds
5 Players
LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh)

Hero (SB): $9.85
BB: $16.50
UTG: $4.65
CO: $9.45
BTN: $9.80

Preflop: Hero is dealt Khttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (5 Players)
UTG folds, CO raises to $0.35, BTN folds, Hero raises to $1.25, BB calls $1.15, CO calls $0.90

Flop: ($3.75) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif 2http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 Players)
Hero bets $2.50, BB calls $2.50, CO raises all-in to $8.20, Hero raises all-in to $8.60, BB calls $6.10

Turn: ($29.15) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($29.15) Jhttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (3 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $29.15 ($1 Rake)

CO had 7http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (a pair of Sevens) and LOST (-$9.45)
BB had Thttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 6http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (a pair of Sixes) and LOST (-$9.85)
Hero had Khttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (a pair of Kings) and WON (+$18.30)

NOT.

crushednuts

05-03-2007, 07:21 AM

That hand is why I laugh at people who are trying to play a 35/20 style at 10NL. Its one thing if you are trying to practice for higher stakes but if you want to make a strong profit w/ minimal variance, stuff like this is how you get it..I'm digging the T6 suited...BUT THEY WERE SUITED!!

kazana

05-03-2007, 07:41 AM

That T6s guy probably had a READ.

Gelford

05-03-2007, 07:52 AM

Friends, Romans, Poker-men, lend me your ears

I have just printed out my students thesis in the required fice copies and unless I get run over by something big on my way to university, I am now no longer a poker pro (well technically I wont get my degree before it has been graded, so two months more must pass, but .... )

Behold: 'Ich bin ein Economist' .... Yay !!!! /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Genz

05-03-2007, 07:59 AM

But that doesn't mean that you are quitting poker, does it? You are just stepping done to "amateur", aight?

Chomp

05-03-2007, 08:29 AM

WHY WHY WHY WHY THE FFFFFUFUFUFFUFUFUFUF DO I FEEL THE NEED TO TAKE ON THE SINGLE GOOD PLAYER AT EVERY TABLE??????????????? WTF AM I TRYING TO PROVE?????????????????? POUHGSIUPGNispongIPusdngIUPsndgIUNsdiubNIUFdnBuisd hngpisohF

Genz

05-03-2007, 08:47 AM

You are just like me, although I usually tend to take on a whole table of better-than-average-players when I'm stuck there. Not worth it. But I do it again and again.

Dastone

05-03-2007, 08:52 AM

You can't spell "let us gogogogo" without ego.

wildzer0

05-03-2007, 10:38 AM

[censored] May

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($54.30)
BB ($23.75)
UTG ($1.45)
Hero ($50)
CO ($15.40)
Button ($27.40)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
1 fold, Hero raises to $2, CO calls $2, 2 folds, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6.25) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
BB bets $0.5, Hero raises to $7.5, CO calls $7.50, BB calls $7.

Turn: ($28.75) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
BB bets $2.5, Hero raises to $40.5, CO calls $5.90 (All-In), BB calls $11.75 (All-In).

River: ($89.40) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $89.40

Results in white below: 
BB has Kc Kd (three of a kind, kings).
Hero has Ac Js (one pair, aces).
CO has 9d Ad (one pair, aces).
Outcome: BB wins $63.15. Hero wins $26.25. 

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($54)
Hero ($97.85)
UTG ($49.60)
MP ($26.40)
Button ($53.75)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
2 folds, Button raises to $1.5, SB calls $1.25, Hero calls $1.

Flop: ($4.50) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Button bets $2.5, SB calls $2.50, Hero calls $2.50.

Turn: ($12) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $8, Button folds, SB calls $8.

River: ($28) K/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $25, SB raises to $42, Hero calls $17.

Final Pot: $112

Results in white below: 
SB has Kd Kh (full house, kings full of fives).
Hero has 9s Ts (flush, ten high).
Outcome: SB wins $112. 

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f237/wildzer0/badluck2.jpg

dirtylobster

05-03-2007, 11:32 AM

It's strange how that always shows less profit than Sklansky bucks. Either there's something wrong with the software or all sites are rigged. /images/graemlins/shocked.gif /images/graemlins/grin.gif

wildzer0

05-03-2007, 11:36 AM

[ QUOTE ]
It's strange how that always shows less profit than Sklansky bucks. Either there's something wrong with the software or all sites are rigged. /images/graemlins/shocked.gif /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

I've been using this software for a while (and the previous script I wrote). I just bitch more when I have less profit than sklansky bucks, but there are plenty of situations where my profit is more than my sklansky bucks.

PJo336

05-03-2007, 12:23 PM

whered u find players willing to go all in with those hands? I rarely find myself ahead with AJ in the first hand.

Fiksdal

05-03-2007, 12:24 PM

Game selection and table image is my guess.

fees

05-03-2007, 12:37 PM

the skalansky bux grapher is 100% bull [censored]... dont even try to act like it works properly

Tickner

05-03-2007, 12:37 PM

wild how can I get that program?

wildzer0

05-03-2007, 12:45 PM

[ QUOTE ]
the skalansky bux grapher is 100% bull [censored]... dont even try to act like it works properly

[/ QUOTE ]

You can work it out by hand and verify that it is working correctly, or you can continue to make ill informed posts.

wildzer0

05-03-2007, 12:51 PM

[ QUOTE ]
wild how can I get that program?

[/ QUOTE ]

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...e=0#Post9774803 (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=9774803&an=0&page=0#Post 9774803)

To summarize: I wrote the first incarnation, which is a hard to run php script, advisor threw that code into a java class to make an easier to execute calc and Phil S released a beta version of a very polished, very awesome much better than anything else calc (where the graph I posted earlier came from). I don't know if he's accepting more beta users, but it doesn't hurt to ask!

HBomb

05-03-2007, 12:53 PM

AJML.. you don't happen to be that super nitty player Agremist who has won huge pots from me at $50 NL lately are you?

We were almost 400 BB's deep the other night at $50 NL and I ended up raising on button with AK and he calls in BB with 33.. flop KK3.. and I couldn't get away from it, it was one of the biggest pots I ever lost at $50 NL.. then just last night, same guy and everything, I flop a set of 2's on a 2JT flop and he calls my check raise on the flop after c-betting it hard, turn is a K and he has KK on me... gg... the guy is such a luckbox I swear..

fees

05-03-2007, 12:57 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
the skalansky bux grapher is 100% bull [censored]... dont even try to act like it works properly

[/ QUOTE ]

You can work it out by hand and verify that it is working correctly, or you can continue to make ill informed posts.

[/ QUOTE ]

find me 3 or more graphs where s-bux is > bux and i might consider it to not be 100% [censored]

wildzer0

05-03-2007, 01:00 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
the skalansky bux grapher is 100% bull [censored]... dont even try to act like it works properly

[/ QUOTE ]

You can work it out by hand and verify that it is working correctly, or you can continue to make ill informed posts.

[/ QUOTE ]

find me 3 or more graphs where s-bux is > bux and i might consider it to not be 100% [censored]

[/ QUOTE ]

I've posted 2 in this thread. I'm not going to bother to find a 3rd, you are wrong.

tehDiceman

05-03-2007, 02:05 PM

ah the glory, seems like the doomswitch from earlier today has been turned off.

dont berate me for not raising preflop either, it was a table full of calling stations preflop and this is the first set i've flopped in probably 700 hands.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

MP ($2.90)
CO ($1.19)
Hero ($5.16)
SB ($1.02)
BB ($3.05)
UTG ($7.16)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls $0.02, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.02, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.08) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 players)
SB bets $0.1, BB folds, UTG folds, Hero calls $0.10.

Turn: ($0.28) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
SB bets $0.2, Hero raises to $0.4, SB raises to $0.9, Hero calls $0.50.

River: ($2.08) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)

Final Pot: $2.08

Results below:
SB has As 7d (one pair, sevens).
Hero has 5c 5d (three of a kind, fives).
Outcome: Hero wins $2.08.

and this my friends is exactly why you dont limp AK from the button. comments on bet sizes on all three streets appreciated.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

Button ($2.71)
SB ($1.23)
Hero ($6.55)
UTG ($2.94)
MP ($2.65)
CO ($7.30)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif.
2 folds, CO calls $0.02, Button calls $0.02, 1 fold, Hero checks.

Flop: ($0.07) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $0.04, CO folds, Button calls $0.04.

Turn: ($0.15) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.08, Button calls $0.08.

River: ($0.31) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.2, Button calls $0.20.

Final Pot: $0.71

Results below:
Hero has 9c 3c (two pair, nines and threes).
Button has Ad Ks (one pair, kings).
Outcome: Hero wins $0.71.

fees

05-03-2007, 02:13 PM

[quote
I've posted 2 in this thread. I'm not going to bother to find a 3rd, you are wrong.

[/ QUOTE ]

like the s-bux graph 100% [censored] complete lie

jose_marti

05-03-2007, 02:29 PM

Frankly, I have no idea if the S-bux graphs are accurate or not. But what I am getting tired of is the increasing number of posts where the author whines about their graph and how different the lines look.

I really hope this isn't a new trend.

dirtylobster

05-03-2007, 02:34 PM

1. Take a $200 shot at NL200
2. Catch a ten on the river
3. Profit

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

HERO (SB): $198
BB: $361.10
UTG: $332.75
MP: $66.35
CO: $157.90
BTN: $697.15

Preflop: HERO is dealt T/images/graemlins/heart.gif T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP raises to $7, CO calls $7, BTN folds, HERO raises to $30, BB folds, MP raises all-in to $66.35, CO calls $59.35, HERO raises all-in to $198, CO calls all-in for $91.55
Uncalled bet of $0 returned to HERO

Flop: ($384.15) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 Players - 3 All-In)

Turn: ($384.15) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 Players - 3 All-In)

River: ($384.15) T/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 Players - 3 All-In)

Pot Size: $384.15 ($3 Rake)

MP had A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (two pair, Aces and Tens) and LOST (-$66.35)
CO had A/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (two pair, Aces and Queens) and LOST (-$157.90)
HERO had T/images/graemlins/heart.gif T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (three of a kind, Tens) and WON (+$223.25)

ajml

05-03-2007, 02:42 PM

lol no im not Agremist but I bet hes a 2p2, same with parceval... anyways check your pms. might be time for a 5 buyin 100 NL shot today

thac

05-03-2007, 02:57 PM

[ QUOTE ]
1. Take a $200 shot at NL200
2. Catch a ten on the river
3. Profit

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

HERO (SB): $198
BB: $361.10
UTG: $332.75
MP: $66.35
CO: $157.90
BTN: $697.15

Preflop: HERO is dealt T/images/graemlins/heart.gif T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP raises to $7, CO calls $7, BTN folds, HERO raises to $30, BB folds, MP raises all-in to $66.35, CO calls $59.35, HERO raises all-in to $198, CO calls all-in for $91.55
Uncalled bet of $0 returned to HERO

Flop: ($384.15) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 Players - 3 All-In)

Turn: ($384.15) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 Players - 3 All-In)

River: ($384.15) T/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 Players - 3 All-In)

Pot Size: $384.15 ($3 Rake)

MP had A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (two pair, Aces and Tens) and LOST (-$66.35)
CO had A/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (two pair, Aces and Queens) and LOST (-$157.90)
HERO had T/images/graemlins/heart.gif T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (three of a kind, Tens) and WON (+$223.25)

[/ QUOTE ]

Always nice to hit that one-outer when taking a shot..

kazana

05-03-2007, 03:05 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]

I've posted 2 in this thread. I'm not going to bother to find a 3rd, you are wrong.

[/ QUOTE ]

like the s-bux graph 100% [censored] complete lie

[/ QUOTE ]
Maybe one day, when you realize that the only stuff that's typically "100% [censored]" is what you're blurting out, you're going to be in for a big scare.

ajml

05-03-2007, 03:07 PM

i dont get these skalansky bucks graphs... they cant even be that accurate can they considering the amount of hole cards that dont go to showdown????

dirtylobster

05-03-2007, 03:13 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Maybe one day, when you realize that the only stuff that's typically "100% [censored]" is what you're blurting out, you're going to be in for a big scare.

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't doubt it works, the curve should just be lowered a little to match the average user's real curve. There's no way to actually calculate Sklansky Bucks as you don't always know what villain had.. you could program the software to calculate villains range from PT stats but it would still be inaccurate. None the less I'm fascinated by the software, I'd be happy to get more details about how it works.

Triggerle

05-03-2007, 03:20 PM

These are some crazy days. I've been against big hands in basically every one of my good hands (if they didn't fold pre) and lost every single one of them. Now I made back half of what I lost yesterday.

Note: if you put in your money with the worst of it you will eventually win /images/graemlins/grin.gif

EverestPoker Game #1476657420: Table Doha-30 - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:04:51 - 2007/05/03
Seat 1: BB ($68.55)
Seat 2: Hero ($60.35)
Seat 3: MP ($118.96)
Seat 5: Button ($57.05)
Seat 6: SB ($42.50)

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero (UTG) [K/images/graemlins/club.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif]
Hero raises to $2.00, MP calls $2.00, Button folds, SB calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50.

*** FLOP *** [T/images/graemlins/club.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/club.gif]
SB bets $8.00, BB folds, Hero raises to $28.00, MP calls $28.00, SB raises to $40.50 and is all-in, Hero calls $12.50, MP calls $12.50.

*** TURN *** [T/images/graemlins/club.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/club.gif] [5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif]
Hero bets $17.85 and is all-in, MP calls $17.85.

*** SHOW DOWN ***
SB shows [T/images/graemlins/spade.gif T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif]
Hero shows [K/images/graemlins/club.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif]
MP shows [9/images/graemlins/spade.gif J/images/graemlins/spade.gif]

*** RIVER *** [T/images/graemlins/club.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/club.gif 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif] [J/images/graemlins/heart.gif]

*** SUMMARY ***
Hero collects $129.25
Hero collects $33.95

Genz

05-03-2007, 03:36 PM

Where can I find the 50NL video Gelford made? The linky in his original thread doesn't work anymore. Is it still hosted somewhere?

Gelford

05-03-2007, 03:41 PM

The thread is here (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=9628446&an=0&page=2#Post 9628446)

I host it on crappy site, then 2mb rehosts it ... and finally in the last but one post, i qoute yellowbluebus from the brew and so links are provided to another hosing.

Note that while I 'teach' a sound tag strategy in it, I don't play like that that anymore. Still it is sound and will bring in the money. (it is based on the fact that you will sit with a couple of bad opponents at your tables as well as a couple of good regs)

dirtylobster

05-03-2007, 03:45 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Always nice to hit that one-outer when taking a shot..

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah well...

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 56.062% 55.07% 00.99% 754855 13614.17 { TdTh }
Hand 1: 06.066% 03.97% 02.10% 54432 28718.67 { AdTs }
Hand 2: 37.872% 36.66% 01.21% 502579 16555.17 { AcQd }

EDIT: And I wasn't expecting the CO to call my shove after coldcalling MP's raise and I was 80% sure that I was ahead the MP with my tens. I was devastated by the flop but it turned out nicely.

EDIT2: I was sure to see Ax lower than AT or a lower PP by MP.

PJo336

05-03-2007, 04:01 PM

Gelford haha I love your avatar.

Brag: One more final, easy as hell tonight, then im watchin all the 50NL videos I can find.
Beat: FTP support has not emailed me back in almost a week

Also, I get cardplayer, one of my favorite magazines, but does anyone get Bluff? And if so, opinions? Im thinking about gettin that too

fees

05-03-2007, 04:04 PM

Im putting a 50NL video together tonight... hopefully it will be up tomorrow but prob not

PJo336

05-03-2007, 04:07 PM

perfect timing, get that stuff done

derosnec

05-03-2007, 04:19 PM

the s-bux program is accurate. stop being retarded.

anyways, you want to show the blue line (showdown winnings) versus the red graph (sklansky). the green line is irrelevant with regard to your equity.

NL Newbie

05-03-2007, 04:25 PM

It was all going so well.... Then i doubted my playing style and OHHH COINSEDENCE I DROP $150.

[censored] YOU NL$50, [censored] YOU!

Although, i guess some of them just sucked....

50/2/1 over about 70hands i just sit down and play this hand straight away....

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $50.95
Hero (BB): $50
UTG: $69.10
MP: $42.94
CO: $17.59
BTN: $65.52

Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/heart.gif K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (6 Players)
UTG calls $0.50, 4 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, UTG calls $2

Flop: ($5.25) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $4, UTG calls $4

Turn: ($13.25) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $11, UTG calls $11

River: ($35.25) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets all-in for $32.50, UTG calls $32.50

Pot Size: $100.25 ($3 Rake)

UTG had A/images/graemlins/spade.gif 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (two pairs, Aces and Nines) and WON (+$47.25)
Hero had A/images/graemlins/heart.gif K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (a pair of Aces) and LOST (-$50)

This hand doesnt bother me, just one of those short term red numbers for PT to display, next time im the one with AA so meh.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $45
Hero (BB): $82.45
UTG: $69.50
MP: $52
CO: $88.05
BTN: $52

Preflop: Hero is dealt K/images/graemlins/club.gif K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.50, 2 folds, SB raises to $2, Hero raises to $7, MP folds, SB raises to $19, Hero raises all-in to $82.45, SB calls all-in for $26
Uncalled bet of $37.45 returned to Hero

Flop: ($90.50) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Turn: ($90.50) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($90.50) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $90.50 ($3 Rake)

SB had A/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/spade.gif (two pairs, Aces and Sixes) and WON (+$42.50)
Hero had K/images/graemlins/club.gif K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (two pairs, Kings and Sixes) and LOST (-$45)

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $49.75
Hero (BB): $50
UTG: $78.35
MP: $94
CO: $49.25
BTN: $52.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt J/images/graemlins/heart.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($1.75) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 2/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 Players)
Hero bets $1.50, MP calls $1.50, CO folds

Turn: ($4.75) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $4, MP calls $4

River: ($12.75) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
Hero bets $10, MP raises to $20, Hero calls $10 DONT CALL YOU DUMB [censored], YOU EVEN SAID ON VIDEO YOU WAS BEHIND psjdsajdjs;jds;jsd

Pot Size: $52.75 ($2.60 Rake)

MP had 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif (two pairs, Threes and Twos) and WON (+$24.15)
Hero had J/images/graemlins/heart.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (a pair of Jacks) and LOST (-$26)

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

SB: $51.50
BB: $46.05
UTG: $49
MP: $42.40
Hero (CO): $54.15
BTN: $54.47

Preflop: Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif (6 Players)
2 folds, Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.25) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 4/images/graemlins/club.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
BB bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

Turn: ($9.25) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
BB bets $2, Hero raises to $7, BB calls $5

Ewww, that raise is weak sauce - Horry for not reading the pot size proply.

River: ($23.25) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
BB bets $3.50, Hero calls $3.50

DO YOU REALLY NEED TO BET THIS SMALL SO I EMBARRESS MYSELF? I MEAN GRRRR

Pot Size: $30.25 ($2 Rake)

BB had Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/club.gif (three of a kind, Kings) and WON (+$13.25)
Hero had A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif (two pairs, Aces and Kings) and LOST (-$15)

Genz

05-03-2007, 04:31 PM

[ QUOTE ]
The thread is here (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=9628446&an=0&page=2#Post 9628446)

I host it on crappy site, then 2mb rehosts it ... and finally in the last but one post, i qoute yellowbluebus from the brew and so links are provided to another hosing.

Note that while I 'teach' a sound tag strategy in it, I don't play like that that anymore. Still it is sound and will bring in the money. (it is based on the fact that you will sit with a couple of bad opponents at your tables as well as a couple of good regs)

[/ QUOTE ]

Thanks a lot. I'm not trying to emulate someone's style. I mostly look for what the player puts the opponent's on, how he assesses and handles situations, what kind of concepts he thinks about. That's what I'm looking for. So the more ranting, the better. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

wildzer0

05-03-2007, 05:31 PM

[ QUOTE ]
the s-bux program is accurate. stop being retarded.

anyways, you want to show the blue line (showdown winnings) versus the red graph (sklansky). the green line is irrelevant with regard to your equity.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, I realized that after I posted as I was playing around with it a bit more.The software is a bit complicated, but awesome.

Everlong

05-03-2007, 06:22 PM

Finally I had a killer session. 600 hands at 40PTBB/100 on FTP. More please , the last few days have been teh suck.

NL Newbie

05-03-2007, 06:23 PM

Weres this "SBUX" program? Whats it do? Etc.

Gelford im watching your video, mate you make me chuckle! /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

wildzer0

05-03-2007, 06:47 PM

For NL Newbie /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
wild how can I get that program?

[/ QUOTE ]

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...e=0#Post9774803 (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=9774803&an=0&page=0#Post 9774803)

To summarize: I wrote the first incarnation, which is a hard to run php script, advisor threw that code into a java class to make an easier to execute calc and Phil S released a beta version of a very polished, very awesome much better than anything else calc (where the graph I posted earlier came from). I don't know if he's accepting more beta users, but it doesn't hurt to ask!

[/ QUOTE ]

fees

05-03-2007, 07:01 PM

he lied, theres no graphs that have +money instead of s-bux... but its stupid to begin with it has VERY little to do with you running bad/playing bad whatever its a useless tool

NL Newbie

05-03-2007, 07:08 PM

[ QUOTE ]
For NL Newbie /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
wild how can I get that program?

[/ QUOTE ]

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...e=0#Post9774803 (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=9774803&an=0&page=0#Post 9774803)

To summarize: I wrote the first incarnation, which is a hard to run php script, advisor threw that code into a java class to make an easier to execute calc and Phil S released a beta version of a very polished, very awesome much better than anything else calc (where the graph I posted earlier came from). I don't know if he's accepting more beta users, but it doesn't hurt to ask!

[/ QUOTE ]

[/ QUOTE ]

Thanks mate, uNL is suprisingly friendly /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Fees - Yeh i can appreciate that, but i love noveltys /images/graemlins/grin.gif

EMc

05-03-2007, 07:09 PM

fees,

stop hating. if you dont like it take it somewhere else.

fees

05-03-2007, 07:25 PM

fair

wildzer0

05-03-2007, 07:25 PM

[ QUOTE ]
find me 3 or more graphs where s-bux is > bux and i might consider it to not be 100% [censored]

[/ QUOTE ]

[ QUOTE ]
he lied, theres no graphs that have +money instead of s-bux... but its stupid to begin with it has VERY little to do with you running bad/playing bad whatever its a useless tool

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm done, you're right. Expected value is a ridiculous measure of one's poker success. But you may want to look up the proper way to use greater than and less than signs before you call someone a liar.

This'll be my last comment about this software in this thread.

NL Newbie

05-03-2007, 07:31 PM

Ok relax ladies, hand bags away - we're all here to talk and improve our poker skills, so lets keep it to that yooooo.

Would anyone watch if i made a NL$25 or NL$50 video?

I may lag it up like hell at NL$25 and see where it gets me(Prob pretty -EV lol!).
Or i could do it at NL$50, but maybe next week since id quite like to run through NL$50 and get up to NL$100 ASAP.

Hate grinding, regretting cashing out now. mehhhhh

jonyy6788

05-03-2007, 08:18 PM

Don't ask me how, but I just got tilted and open pushed A8o all-in preflop....got called by TWO people and won with high card.

Chomp

05-03-2007, 08:19 PM

All I ever do in the Microbrew thread is moan. Moan, moan, moan, moan, moan. And then moan, moan, moan, moan, moan.

I actually think I could have got away here. But I thought at the time I had to be good here on turn 33% of the time, right?

And then I thought, AA/AK/KK/JJ/AQ....sheesh, maybe not.

Sigh. Villain 52/17/3 or something.

...........................................

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter (http://www.learnhowtoplaypokerfree.com/convert/convert.cgi) Courtesy of PokerZion.com (http://PokerZion.com)

saw flop|saw showdown

CO ($0)
Button ($49.15)
SB ($53.09)
BB ($67.84)
Hero ($70.15)
MP ($30.57)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif.
Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, SB calls $1.75, BB raises to $4.5, Hero calls $2.50, SB calls $2.50.

Flop: ($13.50) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $8, SB folds, BB raises to $16, Hero calls $8.

Turn: ($45.50) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
BB bets $10, Hero calls $49.65 (All-In), BB calls $37.34 (All-In).

River: ($142.49) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $142.49

Results in white below:
BB has Ks Kh (three of a kind, kings).
Hero has 8s 8c (three of a kind, eights).
Outcome: BB wins $140.18. Hero wins $2.31.

...................

Edit: Acutally, AQ isn't in his range here.

jonyy6788

05-03-2007, 08:25 PM

shove flop plz

dirtylobster

05-03-2007, 08:26 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Don't ask me how, but I just got tilted and open pushed A8o all-in preflop....got called by TWO people and won with high card.

[/ QUOTE ]

/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Chomp

05-03-2007, 08:28 PM

[ QUOTE ]
shove flop plz

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, not shoving is pretty poor.

PJo336

05-03-2007, 08:36 PM

chomp ur avatar freaks me out, shouldnt it be like a shark or something? BTW, Harrington says anyone laying down a set thinking the other person has a higher one is an idiot, plus since you removed AQ from his range you left it with AA,AK,KK,JJ, two of which beat you out of four: 4:2=2:1....$37 into $105...~3:1, ergo, u were coolered, dont fret it...

hahah im out of school and just wanted to do easy math to ease all the Cs im about to intake

Chomp

05-03-2007, 08:46 PM

Tx PJ. LGB says much the same.

Sean Fraley

05-03-2007, 09:02 PM

DirtyLobster, cool avatar.

Trust me, I know what I'm doing.

NL Newbie

05-03-2007, 09:14 PM

I think im a leaper - what are you /images/graemlins/laugh.gif? (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=4242545&page=0&fpart=all &vc=1)

Chomp

05-03-2007, 09:22 PM

[ QUOTE ]
I think im a leaper - what are you /images/graemlins/laugh.gif? (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=4242545&page=0&fpart=all &vc=1)

[/ QUOTE ]

lol...that's actually a very preceptive post.

I'm definitely one of The Confuzlleds.

NL Newbie

05-03-2007, 10:20 PM

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I think im a leaper - what are you /images/graemlins/laugh.gif? (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=4242545&page=0&fpart=all &vc=1)

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lol...that's actually a very preceptive post.

I'm definitely one of The Confuzlleds.

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Most of it holds true! Although prob more stages than that and some have HUGEEEEE gaps between them others don't.

Ive decided to take a week of 2p2, be back next friday /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Play more, post less. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

GL at the tables all!

fees

05-03-2007, 11:33 PM

embrace the variance

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 2 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh))

Hero (BB): $115
SB: $168.80

Preflop: Hero is dealt http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/Ac.png http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/Ah.png (2 Players)
SB raises to $3, Hero raises to $10, SB calls $7

Flop: ($20) http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/5d.png http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/6c.png http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/3c.png (2 Players)
Hero bets $15, SB raises to $57, Hero raises all-in to $105, SB calls $48

Turn: ($230) http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/5c.png (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($230) http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/4c.png (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $230 ($0.50 Rake)

SB had http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/7h.png http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/7c.png (a straight flush, Seven high) and WON (+$114.50)
Hero had http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/Ac.png http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/Ah.png (a flush, Ace high) and LOST (-$115)

PJo336

05-03-2007, 11:47 PM

75 dollar tourney on full tilt at midnight, wish me luck

thac

05-03-2007, 11:50 PM

glglgl

PJo336

05-04-2007, 12:43 AM

wow fees i just read your HH and threw up a little in my mouth haha. the straight wasnt enuff, the flush wasnt enuff, they had to give him the str8 flush.

nearing the first break, i have yet to play one hand outside of the blinds

Fiksdal

05-04-2007, 12:45 AM

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$0.05/$0.10 Blinds
6 Players
LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh)

SB: $12.65
BB: $20.95
UTG: $8.35
MP: $10.15
CO: $4
Hero (BTN): $9.90

CO posts $0.10
Preflop: Hero is dealt 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif (6 Players)
2 folds, CO checks, Hero raises to $0.50, 2 folds, CO calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.15) 6http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif 5http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (2 Players)
CO bets $1.15, Hero raises all-in to $9.40, CO calls all-in for $2.35
Uncalled bet of $5.90 returned to Hero

Turn: ($8.15) 2http://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($8.15) Thttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $8.15 ($0.80 Rake)

CO had 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (a pair of Fives) and LOST (-$4)
Hero had 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif (two pair, Sixes and Fives) and WON (+$3.35)

He put me on AK?.......WAIT!

lol

Anyone have a tiny bit of insight in the minds of this people? What in the world is going through their heads?

Please write out suggestions on what might have been villains thought process here.