50NL - Pos-flop play against loose players

[Avocado]

MP is 77/6/4 over 130 hands
Button is 36/4/1.2 over 80 hands

i think pf raise should be bigger, but i was distracted and made it only $2.5

flop i don't think cbet is profitable, since villains are loose as hell, specially MP who limp / calls everything and will never fold to any bet on this flop

with an $11 pot, i guess i have to call the $1.5

now the turn: MP seems to bet strong when weak, but with the short stack calling, i don't know what to do.

thanks for any comments.

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Button ($12.20)</font>
SB ($14.05)
Hero ($78.85)
UTG ($44.15)
<font color="#C00000">MP ($59.55)</font>
CO ($54.65)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $0.50, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, MP calls $2, Button calls $2, SB folds.

Flop: ($8) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $1.5</font>, Button calls $1.50, Hero calls $1.50.

Turn: ($12.50) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $9</font>, Button calls $8.20 (All-In)

[Lurker.]

fold fast. your float is okay imo. pf sizing seems fine too.

[inspir3d]

i don't like this preflop. either raise big ($4) or check.

u don't really want callers... u want to drive them out preflop and get this pot heads up or take it down immediately.

when u raise so little u just inflate the pot and give yourself tough decisions postflop like this one

AJs is a very marginal hand to play out of the blinds OOP, esp against 2 villains behind u.

[Peter Harris]

I need this one explained - why should we be folding the turn vs MP's double donk? do we expect a better A, a 6? what about A/images/graemlins/heart.gifX/images/graemlins/heart.gif where the X is &lt;J? That surely has to be a possibility, as does an aggro 8, or a limped pocket pair?

I can't countenance that this is a turbomuck...does the caller all-in "protect" the pot and make it clearer you're out of luck?