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wotttttttttt
04-30-2007, 02:01 AM
Villain is a calling station passive fish, stats are 40/2/1 with no aggression until river.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($1.79)
UTG ($6.73)
Button ($10.82)
Hero ($7.99)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls $0.05, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.15) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.15</font>, BB calls $0.15, UTG calls $0.15.

Turn: ($0.60) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.6</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $0.60.

River: ($1.80) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="red">Hero bets $1.25</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $4.93 and is all-in</font>, Hero folds.
For some reason converter broke so I had to manually write in river action.

Gelford
04-30-2007, 02:13 AM
Du dum du dum du dum do dum CALLMAN !
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wotttttttttt
04-30-2007, 02:33 AM
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Du dum du dum du dum do dum CALLMAN !
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lol DICEMAN

anyways, this may be entirely read dependent, villain's aggression on each street was 0/0/1 and I wasn't even sure whether the straight was part of his range, but I SERIOUSLY doubted 2pair or set were. Villain was a calling station fish but he was pretty nitty too and nevergot aggressive even with strong hands. He's the kind of player you would expect to see him smoothcall a river bet with the nuts.

Supwithbates
04-30-2007, 02:33 AM
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Du dum du dum du dum do dum CALLMAN !
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+EV

Gelford
04-30-2007, 02:36 AM
Joke aside, with a read of passiveness, this seems like a fold, flush and boats galore, and he never is agressive it seems, so ... /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

catfish_01
04-30-2007, 02:44 AM
How many hands are those stats over? It takes even longer for street aggression to converge than total postflop aggression.

The opponent plays alot of hands, which makes his aggression deceptive. Lower aggression factor numbers can still indicate aggression. And the river is the only street he seems to wake up on, so I don't suddenly give him total credit on the last street.

There aren't boat possibilities here; the board isn't paired. A backdoored flush beats you, but you do only split with any king. And the catch is, this board looks just right to bluff for a king, too; a raise could possibly push out any hand that it splits.

All things considered, I would call here, but then again I'm a skeptic in this kind of situation.

Genz
04-30-2007, 02:48 AM
I call and split, hopefully.

catfish_01
04-30-2007, 02:48 AM
Just saw that you are sure this is a calling station fish. Well even those types of players can surprise you.

Think about this: If a player truly only smoothcalls with the nuts, does that mean they wouldn't raise with worse hands?

Gelford
04-30-2007, 02:49 AM
My mistake, I misread the hand, though a ten hit turn ... too early in the morning

Genz
04-30-2007, 02:53 AM
It did, but it didn't pair the board. More coffee?

Gelford
04-30-2007, 02:57 AM
Lol ... yeah more coffea, it paired the ten in heros hand, not the board ... heh (lmao)