20 NL: TPTK facing huge overbet

[Cc08]

Hey guys, this is a spot that my friend was recently in. He was wondering whether to call or fold on this flop. Thanks. PS- I know his PFR sucks, no need to point it out.

Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $10.84
UTG+1: $19.90
CO: $19.60
Hero: $19.45
SB: $3.10
BB: $8.80

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $0.3</font>, SB calls, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.

Flop: Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($1.3, 4 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 is all-in $19.6</font>, CO folds, Hero ???

[barryc83]

FOLD.

[jmgambler]

Fold....... 90% of the time its something like 9T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif's or 87 ........ whatever, i have only invested 0.30c no way I am calling this

[rivhawk02]

Im folding, all hero has is TPTK in a 4 way pot. You have invested only 3 bb and now have to make a decision for 200 bb

[KEW]

If you like variance you can call holding the A /images/graemlins/diamond.gif...Absent a read I can not even come close to putting villain on a range..I see this play with TP,draws and even underpairs...

Personally I hate variance so I will usually fold with so little money in the pot...

[Genz]

Raise more preflop. Fold this flop. I don't see a reason why villain would bluff like that into a field.

[pena]

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SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 is all-in $19.6</font>, CO folds, Hero ???

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I would put him on either draws, a weak tp or a middle pocket pair. As far as I've seen what that kind of big overbet donks means at these stakes.

[Keys Myaths]

Easiest fold you'll ever make.

[KEW]

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Easiest fold you'll ever make.

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To everybody saying fold what hand range do you see UTG making this massive overbet with????? Most villain with a BIG made hand will C/R...More times then not I see this bet as a weak to semi strong hand afraid of the flush draw or a flush draw betting..

PS I did say earlier I would fold to avoid unneede/unwanted variance but with the A of soot you can probally call profitable vs most villains...

[Genz]

Well, the medium/weak hands have to be a small PP. I tend to believe that villains rather try to protect hands that they'd hate to get sucked out on, i.e. big pairs, 2pairs or sets. And even if he has some combodraw like KQd, you are in a coinflip. Add the better hands to his range and this is a fold.

[JoEyPeNeLoPe]

just fold