Floped Nut Flush - board pairs

[AshleyC]

The plan was to check-raise the turn all-in. Unfortunately turn was another diamond and villan checked behind.

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Hero ($50.95)</font>
BB ($65.30)
UTG ($50)
MP ($48.50)
<font color="#C00000">Button ($31.70)</font>

Preflop: Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, BB calls $2, Button calls $2.

Flop: ($7.50) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $8</font>, Hero calls $4.

Turn: ($23.50) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($23.50) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $11</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $21.2 (All-In)</font>

I don't see him raising with Q /images/graemlins/diamond.gif here, do I have to call given pot odds?

Surely he would never limp call with pocket tens or jacks pre-flop. We can also eliminate pocket 7s given the flop action. Pocket 4s, which just made quads fit with the action.

[kcb]

Well, you're not folding on the river, that's for sure.

[jk1986]

Yes you're definately committed to the river call here. I normally just lead the turn here, people go into check call mode with medium flushes a lot in these situations, plus you get any sets to put money in whilst still drawing.

[matrix]

you are *seriously* considering folding to a river min-raise because you think he might have *quads*

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you are getting 5:1 - call this all day.

In fact just push the river yourself.

if you're worried about quad 4's you might want to also consider 89dd.

He has Qd or is bluffing here often enough for a call to be +EV here with Ad.

[Acein8ter]

[ QUOTE ]
The plan was to check-raise the turn all-in. Unfortunately turn was another diamond and villan checked behind.

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Hero ($50.95)</font>
BB ($65.30)
UTG ($50)
MP ($48.50)
<font color="#C00000">Button ($31.70)</font>

Preflop: Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, BB calls $2, Button calls $2.

Flop: ($7.50) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $8</font>, Hero calls $4.


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I don't call buttons raise here... I'd pop it up to ~15.