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dimeetrees
04-28-2007, 08:22 PM
Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh/))

SB: $53.65
BB: $42.85
UTG: $21.80
MP: $5.70
<font color="black">Hero (CO): $30.05</font>
BTN: $24.65

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif (6 Players)
UTG calls $0.25, MP folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.15</font>, 2 folds, BB calls $0.90, UTG calls $0.90

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($3.55) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif T/images/graemlins/spade.gif 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 Players)
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3.15</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $10.75</font>, UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $28.90</font>, BB calls $18.15

Pot Size: $61.35


Whats the line here?
Villain is 21/7/ AF = 1

Bowlboy
04-28-2007, 08:28 PM
Villain's flop raise says he can beat a pair with AF of 1.
A lot of hands you beat here. Could be AK or a draw but I think sets and KT are more likely.

Edit: I'm not sure if knowing villain had 44 may have affected my analysis. Dont give away what villain had and you'll get better, less results oriented responses.

ocdscale
04-28-2007, 08:30 PM
Aggression factor of 1 makes it scary, but his raise could just as easily be AK.
Once he calls your all-in, you know you're dead, but I don't know if you can figure it out any sooner.

You can call his raise. If he shoves turn, you know you're beat. But what if he just bets ~8? Seems weak to fold AA in that case.

You can also make an argument for folding to his reraise. C/r from someone with a very low AF is usually a big hang, certainly beating one pair. That said, it would be really hard to make that fold given time constraints.

jmgambler
04-28-2007, 08:44 PM
Yea....... how many of us could fold here... it could just as easily be Ax/images/graemlins/spade.gif's

On a total rag board, you could probably get away, but......

I am probably getting stacked here too......

Paul Thomson
04-28-2007, 08:53 PM
I'm never folding here...u beat way too many hands.

foal
04-28-2007, 10:38 PM
Anyone like a call?

apple11
04-28-2007, 10:41 PM
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Anyone like a call?

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A call is to much of a guessing game on the turn

Machavelli
04-28-2007, 10:52 PM
Why 3bet ai? The only hand he has that we beat would be AK. KK, TT, K10, and JQspades is definitely calling. I would probably call his raise and see what the turn brings. If he fires again I let it go.