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MrE2All
04-27-2007, 03:38 AM
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

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BB ($10.80)
UTG ($113.40)
MP ($55.35)
Hero ($61.30)
SB ($40.60)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $3.75</font>, Hero calls $3.75, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG folds.

Flop: ($9.25) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $25</font>, MP folds.

Final Pot: $40.25

Genz
04-27-2007, 03:45 AM
Raise less on the flop. You overbet the pot. I wouldn't just call because of the flushdraw. But I wouldn't raise more than 18 or so either. If he has completely missed this flop and tried to steal from you, you probably won't get any more out of him anyway.

orange
04-27-2007, 04:01 AM
This is fine. I would raise a bit less typically. 4-betting PF is also an option.

phist
04-27-2007, 04:02 AM
you still won a nice pot, so no harm done. i'd also raise less on the flop, but wouldn't really like another diamond on the turn.

MrE2All
04-27-2007, 04:05 AM
I didn't 4 bet the flop because I was the button and felt like I could trap. Again, thank you for all the help.

.xxxx.
04-27-2007, 04:40 AM
UTG is deeep so I'd absolutely RR pf, and villain leading at the flop makes me want to call and RR on the turn. RR to $17 seems comfortable enough for a value betting trip.

Lordy
04-27-2007, 05:52 AM
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UTG is deeep

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How does this matter if everyone else has 50-60 bb ?

Genz
04-27-2007, 08:45 AM
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UTG is deeep

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How does this matter if everyone else has 50-60 bb ?

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I think this comment was exclusively about preflop. UTG raises first so you should try to get as much of UTG's big stack in the middle while you have the best hand. That's a reason to raise MP's raise again and hope UTG has a real hand instead of playing it slower and letting him get away cheaply on a bad flop. Since UTG opened with a raise, an agreeable reason to call could be that you hope UTG raises again so that you don't have to show so much strength. OP gave no indication that this was likely to happen, though.

Skleice
04-27-2007, 08:48 AM
I like the call PF. Throwing in a 3rd raise just says "I have AA or KK" unless you have been very agg. And yes, raise less on the flop.

payday
04-27-2007, 10:37 AM
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I like the call PF. Throwing in a 3rd raise just says "I have AA or KK" unless you have been very agg. And yes, raise less on the flop.

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Agreed. So long as your price out the flush draw without overbetting the pot you are fine.

jmgambler
04-27-2007, 10:48 AM
............. I think you Did, only thing calling you that you beat is Ad Ks

C4LL4W4Y
04-27-2007, 10:55 AM
Pretty standard line, I sometimes 4b preflop with a maniac image.