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ocdscale

04-27-2007, 12:07 AM

Villain is LAGgy but I haven't seen him get out of line, can I find a fold here? (Baluga's?)
My image is indeterminate, have only been at table for a few rounds, have been raising preflop and cbetting.

Connectors are definitely within his range, so are Axs, and low-mid pocket pairs. Overpairs seem unlikely as I'd expect a reraise preflop or on the flop.
Am I facing a naked flush draw here enough to make a call?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

BB ($39.15)
UTG ($13.90)
MP ($4.65)
CO ($28)
Hero ($23.80)
SB ($19.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
1 fold, MP calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.25, 1 fold, BB calls $1, MP calls $1.

Flop: ($3.85) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $2.25, BB calls $2.25, MP calls $2.25.

Turn: ($10.60) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $7, BB raises to $31.6, MP folds, Hero ??? (~$13 more to Hero)

MayK

04-27-2007, 12:17 AM

This is a hard one.
A check raise on the turn usaly means a big hand.
Its realy hard to fold there with all that money invested but i think that your are beat here
I would fold even if your getting 2:1 on your money

limit refugee

04-27-2007, 12:36 AM

I don't always swing with the Baluga theorem, but I'm going with it here. Slim odds he pulls this move with clubs after check calling flop. You look beat.

Let it go and keep an close eye on this bastard, see if he's the shifty type.

bluef0x

04-27-2007, 12:43 AM

I doubt it's a naked flush draw, especially if he hasn't been out of line. I think it's much more likely he has a straight/set/two-pair. You are probably down here waaaaay too often to call. Drop it.

ocdscale

04-27-2007, 12:48 AM

Thanks guys, I felt really sick in this situation for much the same reasons you guys mentioned (soon as he check/raised, I put him on a straight).

How much does this change if I've seen him 4-bet preflop all-in (100BB) with 97o? (This happened after the present hand, so wasn't available for my decision.)
Just because he goes crazy one time (preflop) doesn't mean he gets out of line postflop. Does it change anything?

Jaqrabbit

04-27-2007, 10:45 AM

I can't see that changing anything, really. I think with only top pair here and no draw to a better hand, you can't call that all-in. Fold that sucker. If it's a bluff, it's a good one.

jmgambler

04-27-2007, 10:54 AM

mmmmmm The problem is I really think you are beat is he making this play with KT/QT or even a flush draw, If it was a flush draw $7 is only a three quarter bet, I would think he would call here or have raised it on the flop when he had two chances to hit.... 87s, 99,66 is easily possible here.

I fold

jmgambler

04-27-2007, 10:57 AM

Not alot, in as much as "dare I say it" previous actions of a player, play a part in the decision making process each hand is separate........ In this instance it would not make a difference to me

C4LL4W4Y

04-27-2007, 10:59 AM

Yeah you'll get a lot of standard baluga thm replies here, but b/f'ing turn seems right on a blank turn off this flop board.

payday

04-27-2007, 11:05 AM

No love for a check behind on this turn? enlighten me..

Pegasus

04-27-2007, 02:37 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Thanks guys, I felt really sick in this situation for much the same reasons you guys mentioned (soon as he check/raised, I put him on a straight).

How much does this change if I've seen him 4-bet preflop all-in (100BB) with 97o? (This happened after the present hand, so wasn't available for my decision.)
Just because he goes crazy one time (preflop) doesn't mean he gets out of line postflop. Does it change anything?

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It only changes things from this point forward...I think your fold was wise