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Lordy
04-25-2007, 07:26 PM
Villain is 38/21/1.5 over 70 hands.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh/))

SB: $46.70
<font color="black">Hero (BB): $50</font>
UTG: $137.70
MP: $159.13
CO: $68.55
BTN: $53.90

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt J/images/graemlins/spade.gif J/images/graemlins/heart.gif (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $1</font>, CO calls $1, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.50</font>, MP calls $3.50, CO calls $3.50

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($13.75) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif T/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $9</font>, MP calls $9, CO calls $9

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($40.75) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP bets $10</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $36.50</font>

This turn sucks balls, but he's giving boat odds. Then I thought that I can't fold river anyway, so I shoved.

Standard ?

(Should've bet more on flop, so I could insta-shove any turn anyway, I know)

Tito
04-25-2007, 07:29 PM
NH. Did you boat?

Vyse
04-25-2007, 07:38 PM
Yeah, pot flop.

limit refugee
04-25-2007, 07:45 PM
I reraise more preflop...I'm going to $6 here...I really don't want 2 callers.

I'd rather lead the turn, not let it get checked through. What was your plan if he shoved after you checked? And as you know, pot that flop. Maybe I'd even over pot it, which I very seldom do.

Vyse
04-25-2007, 07:52 PM
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I reraise more preflop...I'm going to $6 here...I really don't want 2 callers.

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That's extremely results oriented. Re-raising to 4.5x his raise is more than enough.

limit refugee
04-25-2007, 08:08 PM
From the blind I don't think a bigger preflop raise is out of hand at all. With a minraise and a caller there's 2.75 in the pot already and both their stacks are deepish increasing their calling range. If he stopped the hand on the preflop action I'd say the same.

Interested in other opinions on this.

Lordy
04-25-2007, 08:30 PM
Is anyone calling a shove from any villain ?

Pegasus
04-25-2007, 08:54 PM
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Is anyone calling a shove from any villain ?

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I raise bigger pf...I pot the flop and RR or call AI...on turn I'd fold to any pressure if I werent getting a good price

fees
04-25-2007, 09:00 PM
turn is a great card, what just got there? you played this well

Vyse
04-25-2007, 09:11 PM
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turn is a great card, what just got there? you played this well

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Leveling?

catfish_01
04-25-2007, 09:14 PM
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Yeah, pot flop.

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That works if you don't pot with monsters only multiway, but takes some balancing. I'd imagine it works better with a LAG strategy than a TAG one.

Vyse
04-25-2007, 09:16 PM
Boards don't get much more drawy than this one. With top set I'll pot this all day long, this doesn't come up very often so villain will have no prior experience whether I pot with monsters here or not.

catfish_01
04-25-2007, 09:22 PM
Hmmmm that makes sense; my cbetting is normally 2/3-3/4 with whatever holdings I have so I figure it's pretty balanced, but I can see how this is a situation where betting pot won't give away anything. Do you ever PSB w/air to chase villians out?