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d0ugla5
04-25-2007, 06:48 PM
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($13.70)
Button ($29)
SB ($26.45)
BB ($33.45)
Hero ($48)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2.10) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.75</font>, BB calls $1.75.

Turn: ($5.60) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $8.6</font>, Hero...

Not sure what to do here. Villain is really loose and passive. His stats are 79.63/3.7/0.48 over 54 hands.
losingdonkey
04-25-2007, 07:09 PM
I think since he's so passive and might check the river you can call and try to see a cheap showdown, if he was more aggressive I probably just fold
paulw
04-25-2007, 07:47 PM
Agree, getting over 2 to 1 on a call here so I call and hopefully check behind on the river, probably fold to a shove
limit refugee
04-25-2007, 07:54 PM
I think my new plan is to go 79 vpip, just can't put them on a hand.

Those aggression stats may be deceptive, being as he calls and limps so darn much preflop.

Definitely no fold here, and reevaluate the river. Min checkraises can be serious bizness, but I'm not done with this hand yet, and reraising accomplishes zero.
Bramsterdam
04-25-2007, 08:10 PM
Consider folding here. Check/Call flop, Check/Minraise turn looks extremely weak. Especially from a passive donk. He isn't floating here.

You have got 2 outs when behind and can't really call a riverbet (which a river check from Hero will induce). This looks like a Reverse Implied Odds situation to me...

*edit: my bad, hero is not OOP
LOwrestling2001
04-25-2007, 08:11 PM
hero is in position and can call a decent river bet or check behind if checked to. as played, baluga theorem says fold, it is a minraise however, i MIGHT be tempted to call this and a reasonable river bet.
Vyse
04-25-2007, 08:13 PM
I'm probably folding this, I take passive players' bets extremely seriously
Lordy
04-25-2007, 08:32 PM
villain has a 4.