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yellowbluebus
04-24-2007, 10:22 PM
Villain in this hand is 18/4/5.25 over 150 hands. I've been pretty much picking on his blind all night long. Are any of my flush draw outs clean? I just didn't know what to do on the turn. His high aggression numbers are deceiving as he's playing fit-or-fold. Honestly, I was lost in this spot.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh/))

SB: $12.55
BB: $10.70
UTG: $3.15
<font color="black">Hero (BTN): $10.35</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/Tc.png http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/Td.png (4 Players)
UTG calls $0.10, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.50</font>, SB calls $0.45, 2 folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($1.20) http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/5d.png http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/Jd.png http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/9d.png (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $0.50</font>, Hero calls $0.50

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($2.20) http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/8h.png (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $1.50</font>, Hero tanks

tarheeljks
04-24-2007, 10:25 PM
i can't see any of the cards

Supwithbates
04-24-2007, 10:31 PM
raise flop to 2$ and shut down if called.
As played, you have sooo many outs, and none of them are clean. This is a very difficult situation on the turn, made so by your flop smoothcall.

As played, I honestly don't know what to do, because if we call here, hit our straight or flush and he bets again, do we really want to raise? Bleh. Hitting our set isn't that good either because it puts 4 to a straight on the board, which will scare him if he has a naked jack.

yellowbluebus
04-24-2007, 11:00 PM
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i can't see any of the cards

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Is anyone else having problems seeing the cards?

illph
04-24-2007, 11:06 PM
I can see them. I have no idea what to do in that spot though...

yellowbluebus
04-25-2007, 10:39 AM
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raise flop to 2$ and shut down if called.
As played, you have sooo many outs, and none of them are clean. This is a very difficult situation on the turn, made so by your flop smoothcall.


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I like raising this flop per your suggestion. Taking a free card on the turn if villain doesn't stop-n-go? Can an 18/4 smoothcall here with JJ-KK in the SB?

Ikaika
04-25-2007, 10:40 AM
can't see the cards, just shows black squares.

yellowbluebus
04-25-2007, 10:46 AM
Edited since some people can't see the cards in OP.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh/))

SB: $12.55
BB: $10.70
UTG: $3.15
<font color="black">Hero (BTN): $10.35</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt T/images/graemlins/club.gif T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 Players)
UTG calls $0.10, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.50</font>, SB calls $0.45, 2 folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($1.20) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $0.50</font>, Hero calls $0.50

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($2.20) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $1.50</font>, Hero tanks

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bozzer
04-25-2007, 02:55 PM
I can see the cards. I actually like a flop call here.

He hasn't bet that much, but it's decent (not like a min bet which you could just pound in this situation), so I don't really fancy the raise. Often he'll have a made flush or A /images/graemlins/club.gif here and he'll call. Plus the player seems tight. I doubt he's chosen this spot to play back at you.

Calling lets him fire into us again without knowing what we have. Based on standard play at this level we could easily have a made flush.

If he fires again, he's ahead of our range (and therefore his range is ahead of our actual holding since we are holding the low end of our range i think). So I think calling here gives us useful information later in the hand and doesn't bloat the pot with a marginal holding.

And based on the turn action this is a fold in my book.

Supwithbates
04-25-2007, 03:52 PM
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I can see the cards. I actually like a flop call here.

He hasn't bet that much, but it's decent (not like a min bet which you could just pound in this situation), so I don't really fancy the raise. Often he'll have a made flush or A /images/graemlins/club.gif here and he'll call. Plus the player seems tight. I doubt he's chosen this spot to play back at you.

Calling lets him fire into us again without knowing what we have. Based on standard play at this level we could easily have a made flush.

If he fires again, he's ahead of our range (and therefore his range is ahead of our actual holding since we are holding the low end of our range i think). So I think calling here gives us useful information later in the hand and doesn't bloat the pot with a marginal holding.

And based on the turn action this is a fold in my book.

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calling on this board is weak, gives us no useful information, and accomplishes nothing. Raising a scary board provides us with fold equity, information, and gives us the betting impetus to either give us a free card or to stack him.

Vyse
04-25-2007, 03:57 PM
I really doubt you have any FE here