View Full Version : 50NL: In which hero folds AA in 3bet pot to flop c/rai
Chomp
04-24-2007, 09:06 PM
Villain unknown.
Hero starts hand short because of sidgjpoidsgpUDISPNgpiDSMghSDFHZKNGKDbn in blind battle previous hand.
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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>
SB ($33.83)
BB ($50)
<font color="#C00000">UTG ($45)</font>
MP ($80.50)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($43.25)</font>
Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $4.50.
Flop: ($14.75) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $11</font>, UTG calls $38 (All-In), Hero folds
HANABI
04-24-2007, 09:09 PM
I would never fold here given the circumstances.
wildzer0
04-24-2007, 09:10 PM
I would call this flop bet. The only thing you're afraid of is a set, and a typical villain's range is wide enough here to make this call
Please don't.
Reload preflop too.
wildzer0
04-24-2007, 09:12 PM
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Reload preflop too.
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Do you guys all reload during the hand or something? If he lost a little bit of money on the last hand, he probably doesn't have time to reload before being dealt in.
kolotoure
04-24-2007, 09:14 PM
Please don't fold
Hand 0: 56.299% 53.41% 02.89% 52344 2835.00 { QQ+, 77, 33, AdKd }
Hand 1: 43.701% 40.81% 02.89% 39996 2835.00 { AA }
Chomp
04-24-2007, 09:24 PM
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Please don't fold
Hand 0: 56.299% 53.41% 02.89% 52344 2835.00 { QQ+, 77, 33, AdKd }
Hand 1: 43.701% 40.81% 02.89% 39996 2835.00 { AA }
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I have Ad.
So...
Board: Qh 7d 3d
Hand 0: 56.313% { QQ+, 77, 33, KdQd }
Hand 1: 43.687% { AA }
kolotoure
04-24-2007, 09:26 PM
lol i didn't realize. Still call
Chomp
04-24-2007, 09:35 PM
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lol i didn't realize. Still call
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Still call despite being a dog to his only conceivable range?
62.5:25.25 = almost 2.5:1
That's around 70% equity, so you need to win around 30% (yay quick math), and you're 43% against his range.
What's the problem?
wildzer0 - I reloaded as soon as I folded every hand on every table, almost as a habit.
mikechops
04-24-2007, 09:40 PM
Yeah you aren't far behind and you are getting over 2:1
Board: Qh 7d 3d
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 55.180% 52.20% 02.98% 8268 472.50 { QQ+, 77, 33 }
Hand 1: 44.820% 41.84% 02.98% 6627 472.50 { AdAs }
wildzer0
04-24-2007, 09:41 PM
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wildzer0 - I reloaded as soon as I folded every hand on every table, almost as a habit.
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That's impressive, maybe I'm too dependent on the auto reload ahk script /images/graemlins/smile.gif
barryc83
04-24-2007, 09:44 PM
This is a bad fold.
Chomp
04-24-2007, 09:44 PM
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62.5:25.25 = almost 2.5:1
That's around 70% equity, so you need to win around 30% (yay quick math), and you're 43% against his range.
What's the problem?
wildzer0 - I reloaded as soon as I folded every hand on every table, almost as a habit.
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Jeeze thac, thanks. Had a complete brainfart here. Of course you are right.
FWIW, I actually called and he had QQ, but that's beside the point.
Thanks for comments. No more drunken session-reviews for me.
kolotoure
04-24-2007, 09:45 PM
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lol i didn't realize. Still call
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Still call despite being a dog to his only conceivable range?
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Am i getting leveled?
hra146
04-24-2007, 09:54 PM
LOLZ at you, Ima tell you what his range looks like (as a 50NL unknown at party) :
AQ, KK, QK , QQ , 77, (usually NOT 33 cause not a person raises those) and some percentile just random [censored].
Do not ever fold here.
jonyy6788
04-24-2007, 09:56 PM
ZOMG INSTACALL PLZ
derosnec
04-24-2007, 09:56 PM
your hand is defined
but there are so many hands he could have that we are ahead of, though i would expect top pair hands to lead. so the only hand that i can think would play it this way is KK/QQ/draws. i doubt AQ/KQ check raises. but people play so overaggro in RR pots, who knows. typically utg raises are not 77 or 33. this really feels like QQ (utg raise, call rr, c/r flop) but it's just one hand and his implied odds were destroyed pf. so i call.
theflyingcow
04-24-2007, 09:58 PM
Will we ever see AQ here?
Acein8ter
04-24-2007, 11:28 PM
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Will we ever see AQ here?
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Yes, and he would probably push with it.... tptk is da nuts!!!
JoshNjuice
04-24-2007, 11:36 PM
I say raise more PF (especially since you're a little short already). Call c/r-AI on flop. He could have a lot of hands that you beat, and the pot is pretty large. [insert deep math analysis here]
Xanta
04-24-2007, 11:40 PM
This is a trivially easy call.
The range that was stoved above should include AQ, and with that you'll probably be a favorite to his range (assuming he's a decent player, which we don't even know). Even as a small dog pot odds dictate a call.
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