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prodonkey
04-24-2007, 07:56 PM
OK.. utg min raised as he had been doing a lot.. meant absolutely nothing special. Other guy had just sat down.. figured I'd call and see a flop from button.

I flop good.. and it goes bet, raise.. I just called since I figured I didn't have a ton of fold equity.. and I wouldn't mind if utg came along for the ride too.. that ok?

Then CO shoves.. do i have odds to call or no?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh/))

SB: $99.55
BB: $52.05
UTG: $28.20
MP: $26.40
CO: $51.95
<font color="black">Hero (BTN): $56.90</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/4d.png http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/5d.png (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $1</font>, MP folds, CO calls $1, Hero calls $1, SB calls $0.75, BB calls $0.50

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($5) http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/2d.png http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/Ts.png http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/3d.png (5 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $2.50</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $6.50</font>, Hero calls $6.50, 3 folds

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($20.50) http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/cards/color/Kc.png (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets all-in for $44.45</font>, [i]Hero ??

WiiiiiiMan
04-24-2007, 08:03 PM
I fold here, your not gonna right odds to call plus he could have AQdiamond, ak diamonds, QJ diamonds, etc.

losingdonkey
04-24-2007, 08:05 PM
you have to fold being that you're not getting the odds to draw, you could maximize FE by shoving his 3bet on the flop, but without reads it's hard to tell how often it would work

prodonkey
04-24-2007, 08:08 PM
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I fold here, your not gonna right odds to call plus he could have AQdiamond, ak diamonds, QJ diamonds, etc.

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honestly i never really considered that.. he did kinda play that like he ould have AK dimaonds

kolotoure
04-24-2007, 08:19 PM
I probably shove the flop but only because that is how I Play a lot of hands here

Nick C
04-24-2007, 08:35 PM
I think the flop is all right in position versus a bet and a raise, although of course it's entirely possible MP has squat and CO just has a one-pair hand he would fold to big 3-bet.

On the turn, you don't have the odds. You're gettting a little less than 3:2, and at this point the odds of your making a straight or flush are 2:1 against. Probably you have no pair outs (and, if you do have pair outs, you probably have no flush outs, which would be even worse). Also, it's possible the Kd and Td would give Villain a boat and are not outs for you. So, anyway, I would actually give you a little less than 15 outs on average on the turn.

prodonkey
04-24-2007, 08:43 PM
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I probably shove the flop but only because that is how I Play a lot of hands here

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What other kinds of hands are u shoving here?

wildzer0
04-24-2007, 09:03 PM
I usually shove the flop, but this turn is definitely a fold.