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spino1i
04-23-2007, 12:37 AM
Right now Western Union and MoneyGram are the last resort for many internet casinos/poker sites to both handle deposits and withdrawals. They currently use names of random people in foriegn countries (generally Nicaugara or the Phillipines) to use a person-to-person money transfer via MoneyGram or Western Union.

What are the chances of a Fed Dept. of Justice crackdown on these illegal transfers? Do you think the sites will continue to be able to get away with this as long as they limit how much money goes in and out per week or do you think they will get cooked in the near (next 6 months) future?

What do you think guys?

mbpoker
04-23-2007, 07:23 AM
Why are these transfers illegal?

Marklar
04-23-2007, 08:56 AM
Explain how they could crackdown on these.. I cant think of anything, except for banning money transfers to Nicaragua or the Phillipines

poorolrich
04-23-2007, 11:12 AM
Well, it is against the T&C's of WU to wire money for gambling purposes. You got to believe that WU knows whats going on but chooses to ignore it. That being said, I would think all the DOJ would have to do is send a strongly worded letter to WU to 'knock it off' and, for the most part, WU would be out of the loop.

nineinchal
04-23-2007, 11:18 AM
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Well, it is against the T&C's of WU to wire money for gambling purposes. You got to believe that WU knows whats going on but chooses to ignore it. That being said, I would think all the DOJ would have to do is send a strongly worded letter to WU to 'knock it off' and, for the most part, WU would be out of the loop.

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Golly gee, they would crack down on our poker transactions while every illegal alien and anti-American terrorist wire money from the US to anywhere they want to, as long as they pay the fee.

questions
04-23-2007, 11:35 AM
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Golly gee, they would crack down on our poker transactions while every illegal alien and anti-American terrorist wire money from the US to anywhere they want to, as long as they pay the fee.

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It's insane, isn't it, the amount of resources they devote to this? Really stupid, IMO. Your tax dollars at work. /images/graemlins/mad.gif

I'm still at a loss as to how this sort of thing is going to be addressed come the release date of these regulations.

MiltonFriedman
04-23-2007, 02:13 PM
I think that Bank of America, Western Union, CitiBank, et al are just as "guilty" as Neteller may yet be judged.

Keep in mind that BetOsSports was indicted precisely for using Western Union to collect deposits using names in various countries south of the border.

However, the flow of funds south to individuals is huge, so it will remain a gato & raton game for those site which choose to offer those methods. (Interestingly, a purely "poker" site does nothing illegal under the UIGE Act because it is not in the business of betting or wagering.)

Jerry D
04-23-2007, 02:13 PM
With this Republican justice department anything is possible. Who knows one of those crazy Republican senators may attach a rider to a defense bill that makes it a felony to use Western Union for gaming. It could happen.

blutarski
04-23-2007, 02:21 PM
How would they crack down? The one time I deposited money via WU, it was sent to someone's name. How would they be able to tell I was using it for gambling?

kack1969
04-23-2007, 03:02 PM
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/306149419 i hopw as many of you sign this as you can. Hopefully it will help