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fatman20
04-19-2007, 07:34 AM
No real reads on villian. I have him at 26.9/16.9/130 with most hands observed through datamining. I've only been at the table for about 15 minutes. How do I extract the most chips here?

Check/call flop? If I check/call the flop to I lead the turn or check/call hoping villian takes another shot at the pot?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
5 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $65.50
CO: $50
Button: $71.90
Hero: $58.75
BB: $79.80

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif 4/images/graemlins/club.gif
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $2</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif 5/images/graemlins/club.gif ($6, 3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $4.7</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero ?</font>

TheRenaissance
04-19-2007, 08:33 AM
I'd cc here, make him think you are drawing, and maybe string bb along.

good_gamble
04-19-2007, 08:35 AM
I prefer c/ring flop here as calling looks much stronger and you could be doing it with a much wider range of hands than you would be chk calling with

.xxxx.
04-19-2007, 08:44 AM
CC the flop,C/R the turn hoping villain continues with an over that he hits on turn or overpair, definitely your best option.

goat_beard
04-19-2007, 08:48 AM
c/c looks good..UTG mite be scared of that board by turn though

good_gamble
04-19-2007, 08:53 AM
Everyone that says c/c, what range of hands would you be doing that with that you call a p/f raise with from the SB?

kolotoure
04-19-2007, 08:55 AM
I'd be tempted to c/r because villain never folds 66+ here and a lot of cards can scare a pp on the turn

TheRenaissance
04-19-2007, 08:59 AM
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Everyone that says c/c, what range of hands would you be doing that with that you call a p/f raise with from the SB?

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The real question is what do we think villain thinks we have when we call.
He probably think we have a 4, a 5, a draw, or a small/medium pocket pair.

What range do you put villain on? If we cr, what hands would you continue with in villains shoes?

kolotoure
04-19-2007, 09:04 AM
What I call with if I'm villain doesn't matter because most villains suck

fingersmith
04-19-2007, 09:16 AM
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What I call with if I'm villain doesn't matter because most villains suck

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TheRenaissance
04-19-2007, 09:20 AM
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What I call with if I'm villain doesn't matter because most villains suck

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lol, ok, but wont we fold out all unpaired overs?
and isnt that the majority of his range?
and dont we want to keep the bb in the hand?

(i do understand many villains will felt 66+ here)

kolotoure
04-19-2007, 09:24 AM
IME most villains aren't c-betting in a 3 way pot unless they connected in some way

marvin_1935
04-19-2007, 09:32 AM
how would you play 66-TT?

c/c, c/r turn is a good way to lose all customers. either lead flop so you can 3b or c/r the flop and hope he shoves.

TheRenaissance
04-19-2007, 09:34 AM
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how would you play 66-TT?

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Heh, I'd cc that too.

Isura
04-19-2007, 10:26 AM
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IME most villains aren't c-betting in a 3 way pot unless they connected in some way

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But this guy is 27/17. It probably follows that he is overaggro postflop as well. And the board is 544 so he isn't going to connect with this board with most of his hands.