25NL QQ FTP

[Tawbor]

Villain is 26/8/6 over 80 hands, usually passive pre-flop and very aggro post. Not seen a 3 bet from villain before, nevermind 4 bet. Hero's running 24/22 3 betting the [censored] out of a decent TAG villain in position all session but hadn't 3 bet this villain at all.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$0.10/$0.25 Blinds
6 Players
LegoPoker HH Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh/)

SB: $23.65
BB: $28.75
UTG: $34.25
MP: $23.60
CO: $15.75
<font color="black">Hero (BTN): $35.55</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $0.75</font>, MP folds, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3</font>, SB folds, BB folds, <font color="red">UTG raises to $8.25</font>, Hero calls $5.25?

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($16.85) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif 3/images/graemlins/club.gif T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $13</font>, Hero?

[llamage]

His raise UTG, then 4-bet UTG represents either KK or AA (value 4-bet). I would fold this pre-flop.

On the flop, you are only beating JJ,99, AKs(its highly unlikey he has 88-99). I'd fold the flop also.

[Margin Of Error]

Fold PF. You are almost certainly behind and you arent getting odds to call for a set.

[Gelford]

I'd just shove pf

As played

I am felting the hand postflop ... HOLLA !!!

[Margin Of Error]

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I'd just shove pf

As played

I am felting the hand postflop ... HOLLA !!!

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Villain is 26/8/6 over 80 hands, usually passive pre-flop and very aggro post. Not seen a 3 bet from villain before, nevermind 4 bet.

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You think villian is doing this with AK/JJ?

[Gelford]

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You think villian is doing this with AK/JJ?

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Hero is running 24/22 ... villian is aggro .. small sample, so the pfr of 6 might be unaccurate, and yeah ... I see AK, JJ+ as his minimum range, but to be frank I could also easily imagine 9+ and AQ and even wider fwiw

[Margin Of Error]

Dude villian 4 bets, gets called by the other deepstack, leads out for almost a pot sized bet and you're thinking about a shove? What would villian have to do to convince you hes got KK/AA in this spot?

[apple11]

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Dude villian 4 bets, gets called by the other deepstack, leads out for almost a pot sized bet and you're thinking about a shove? What would villian have to do to convince you hes got KK/AA in this spot?

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Agreed villian is passive preflop and 4 bets and people are saying insta shove I think your flipping at best here.

[demon102]

fold preflop ur getting stacked here a ton more times then ur ahead

[shyturtle27]

You can't call that preflop without AA-KK so fold quickly. The call just creates a tough flop situation where he MIGHT have AK, but I would've gotten away long before that.

[Tawbor]

I think I have to fold pre, or call and shove flop. IMO calling and folding flop (as I did) is poor. Villains flop bet could easily be AK/any overs/pockets, but his pre flop play screams AA/KK/maybe AK. Passive/Aggressive villains whilst normally allow you to play perfectly confuse the hell out of me when I hold a good hand.