JJ against a ragy flop OOP

[ontiltsoon]

had no reads of villain just stats 64/16/1.6 after just 68 hands.

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
4 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $27.80
Button: $10.95
Hero: $19.20
BB: $6

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is SB with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif J/images/graemlins/club.gif
UTG calls, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $0.5</font>, BB folds, UTG calls.

Flop: 4/images/graemlins/club.gif 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif T/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($1.1, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $0.95</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($3, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $2</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $4</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $2 returned to UTG.

Results:
Final pot: $7

Is this standard? At the moment I could just put him on 2pair or a set

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i like men

[ontiltsoon]

even if I have 200BB and he has me covered?

[Go_BroKe]

call this bet and c/c the River
donks on NL10 make this move with (trash + garbage)^2
folding this minbet is toooo weak here.

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even if I have 200BB and he has me covered?

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My bad I misread stack sizes, C/C turn and river would be appropriate here, assuming no draws complete.

[WHITEBOYAEHS]

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even if I have 200BB and he has me covered?

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if the stack sizes scare you into making -ev plays...or be scared to make +ev plays(which this hand seems to be an example of) this is 4 handed... you have jj on a t high board and against one opponent at nl 10...some situations you just have to shove and if he has you beat then good for him but you will win more often than not

[.xxxx.]

I'd plan to call down the rest of the hand.

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even if I have 200BB and he has me covered?

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if the stack sizes scare you into making -ev plays...or be scared to make +ev plays(which this hand seems to be an example of) this is 4 handed... you have jj on a t high board and against one opponent at nl 10...some situations you just have to shove and if he has you beat then good for him but you will win more often than not

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with 100BB stacks I would agree with this. I'm not sure its +EV with 200bb's

[ontiltsoon]

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even if I have 200BB and he has me covered?

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if the stack sizes scare you into making -ev plays...or be scared to make +ev plays(which this hand seems to be an example of) this is 4 handed... you have jj on a t high board and against one opponent at nl 10...some situations you just have to shove and if he has you beat then good for him but you will win more often than not

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Sure my fold is very weak, but if I shove, what hand is he calling me with that I beat after his limp/call preflop?

[evagaba]

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At the moment I could just put him on 2pair or a set

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Villian has a huge range but I don't see 2pair. A set or overpair perhaps but probably something like K/images/graemlins/heart.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif , K/images/graemlins/heart.gif J/images/graemlins/heart.gif

I would raise to about $12 instead of fold. It's basically a push since your pot comitted but I like this spot.

[WHITEBOYAEHS]

yes...your being committed to the put makes shoving inevitable...so why not just do it now? lol i mean thats how i think... there are many ways different people play different hands...and i am not saying mine is best, just offering my thoughts

[phist]

i'd not lay it down in that spot. villain hasn't really shown aggression and your hand is pretty strong.