Wierd KQs hand in position

[Fiksdal]

VIllain is 50/12/4.5 over 16 hands

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$0.05/$0.10 Blinds
6 Players
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SB: $21.80
BB: $33.80
UTG: $18.95
MP: $9.15
CO: $29.55
<font color="black">Hero (BTN): $11.55</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt Qhttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif Khttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (6 Players)
UTG calls $0.10, MP folds, CO calls $0.10, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.60</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($1.95) Ahttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif J/images/graemlins/spade.gif Khttp://legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (3 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $0.90</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $0.90

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($3.75) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $1.20</font>, Hero calls $1.20

<font color="black">River:</font> ($6.15) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets all-in for $8.85</font>

Discuss all streets.

[Isura]

Fine until the river. Bet sizing is debatable (I'll let others elaborate).

[Loc0Loc0]

Flop:
I probably reraise because he donkbets in to my pot. He would put me on AK anyway.

Turn:
As played .. i would definately fold. If you have 9 outs (KQT) it is marginal. but since you are not sure if the are all live outs makes it EV- (only the T could save you).
If you hit an out K or Q he still has you beat with AJ/AK/AT/A8..
With a T on the river you don;t have any implied odds whatsover. Only FTP would be ROFL because of the rake you profide them if he holds AQ.

River:
as played fine...

[Grim Reapa]

All good until river, but i want value from a 2 pair on this river, i would bet 1/2 pot and hope AJ is tempted by the pot odds. Only a T will call that push IMO

[Fiksdal]

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All good until river, but i want value from a 2 pair on this river, i would bet 1/2 pot and hope AJ is tempted by the pot odds. Only a T will call that push IMO

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lolol I think you need to re-read my hand and the board sir

[Grim Reapa]

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All good until river, but i want value from a 2 pair on this river, i would bet 1/2 pot and hope AJ is tempted by the pot odds. Only a T will call that push IMO

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lolol I think you need to re-read my hand and the board sir

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Q sorry!

[Xanta]

I'll try to elaborate on what Sklansk-- er, Isura said.

Given villains line, pumping two streets and then slowing down as soon as the four to straight comes on the river, what do you think his hand range is?

It probably has a lot of Ax, a lot of 2 pairs and maybe sets as well. The vast majority of that range can find a fold to a shove on the river but will rarely fold if you bet 4 or so .

I feel that you can extract a lot more value if you go 1/2 pot to 2/3 pot here.

[ama0330]

I like flop and turn because we likely have the best hand, but we cant raise for value, and we also have good insurance given we are drawing to the nut straight on a rainbow board. I think this is one of the rare occasions where one can be a calling station.

Given that we have the nuts on the river and given the action so far you should bet like 2.50 on the river for max value. Ill tell you why pushing is bad too, if he does have a Q, then you guys chop, but because of the massive pot size, the site takes maximum rake from the pot so you actually LOSE money by chopping. A smaller bet is best here.

[ama0330]

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Turn: As played .. i would definately fold.

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I think we are often good on this turn given the previous action. In any case, if we like a turn fold, then we should have raised or folded the flop.