AK on SB against a TAG player, called a 3 bet on flop whats my line???

[pacman2k7]

He is a TAG player 17/13/3 over 100 hands.
After he calls my check raise on flop I was 99% sure his range is AA KK, at least an AK..

What should I do on turn??

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
5 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with K/images/graemlins/club.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $1</font>, Button folds, Hero calls, BB folds.

Flop: 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 6/images/graemlins/club.gif ($2.25, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $1.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4.75</font>, CO calls.

Turn: 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($11.75, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $9</font>, Hero ??????,

[pacman2k7]

Should I reraise him preflop? because of I was OOP?

[orange]

RR pf yeah. he should have a wide enough range to where AK is far ahead.

i think the flop c/r is fine, though i would almost always lead the turn. there are other ways to play the flop. i think you guys are splitting alot. his calling range on the flop is probably AK/sets/sometimes draws/sometimes KQ-KJ/76. kindve a rough range to be up against.

this is why rr-ing pf is often the way to play AK oop. it puts you in such a nasty spot postflop, and you really have no idea where you stand in this hand. Reraise PF and it changes the whole dynamic of this hand.

as played, i would probably lead the turn and call a shove. though c/c-ing the flop seems like a decent plan as well (and taking it from there).

[pacman2k7]

Why do call a shove? What do you expect, what hands could you beat?

[pacman2k7]

If I bet the turn he calls, blank on river.Bet again or c/c?

[orange]

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Why do call a shove? What do you expect, what hands could you beat?

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not many, but given the stack/pot sizes i dont think that bet/folding is an option.

which is why c/r-ing the flop with no turn plan isnt the best idea. think about the reasons why your c/r-ing in the first place...is it for value? for fold equity? usually you should think about these things before doing them and not just blindlessly going insane with no plan.

[pacman2k7]

though c/c-ing the flop seems like a decent plan as well (and taking it from there).

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It seems like to me as a weak / tight paly which I don't like it at all.

I c/r him to see what's my line.If he raise back he has AA or KK if he calls prob. AK

[pacman2k7]

I was going to check call on turn , but he instantly bet over 3/4 pot.

I think I made a mistake preflop, RR and bet the flop..

[pacman2k7]

my plan was c/r and kill all pocket pairs smaller than K, and if he calls I could put him only big hands, and keep the pot small, because I could beat only KQ / KJ split w/ AK.
Pot control.

[orange]

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my plan was c/r and kill all pocket pairs smaller than K, and if he calls I could put him only big hands, and keep the pot small, because I could beat only KQ / KJ split w/ AK.
Pot control.

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your making no sense here. you dont gain pot control by c/r-ing...?

and by c/r-ing, your pretty much turning your hand into a bluff, as as you stated, villan wont call with many worse hands. not that great imo.

[Sweir]

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Should I reraise him preflop? because of I was OOP?

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Being OOP should make you more inclined to 3bet as it will make the hand much easier to play post flop, and you will take it down a decent amount of the time pf. I'm pretty much allways 3betting AK OOP and IP without reads I will 4bet AK OOP and just call 3bets IP, obv this changes though from game to game.

As for the hand I totally agree with what orange has been saying. Especially not c/r'ing the flop without a plan for the turn if called and knowing why you are c/r'ing. Yea and if I were to c/r the flop I would lead turn.

[pacman2k7]

Looks like this is a leak in my game /images/graemlins/frown.gif
Thank you guys for the advice..

[Loc0Loc0]

RR OOP would be fine here.

As played I would CRAI the turn, i think our line looks so donkish that he even calls PP TT and up, and KQ.

[Grim Reapa]

Reraise pre to $3.5 and lead flop for $4 if called,

AK is the nuts preflop vs TAGs.

Dont check raise the flop if youre gonna check a safe turn, youre better off just check calling all the way to keep the pot smallish in that case.

As played villain puts you on a weak K or diamonds a lot so I think you have to play this for stacks.

[MusashiStyle]

his range is like aa, qq, ak, set, aqdd i think. fold turn

[TheRenaissance]

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He is a TAG player 17/13/3 over 100 hands.
After he calls my check raise on flop I was 99% sure his range is AA KK, at least an AK..

What should I do on turn??

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
5 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with K/images/graemlins/club.gif A/images/graemlins/heart.gif
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $1</font>, Button folds, Hero calls, BB folds.

Flop: 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 6/images/graemlins/club.gif ($2.25, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $1.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4.75</font>, CO calls.

Turn: 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($11.75, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $9</font>, Hero ??????,

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Fwiw my stats, though on average a bit higher, could be similar to villains in this hand over 100 hands, and my range on the turn could be super wide depending on how I saw you. 45/67/89/77/KK/66/A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif/KT+/etc etc...

[Sam Spade]

I reraise pf as villain's range is pretty wide from the co. I lead flop for 2/3 pot expecting villain to raise especially with nut diamonds, but you might get a call from KQ.

As played, I like the c/r on the flop, but I lead the flop for 1/2 pot. Is your turn check an attempt at pot control or are you hoping to C/RAI? We are inducing his turn bet and putting ourselves in a tough position oop if we aren't shoving and taking advantage of some fold equity. If your intent was pot control, called his flop bet and c/c the turn would be appropriate.