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pokerash
04-17-2007, 09:12 PM
Villain is 31/67/14

Party Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$0.25/$0.50 Blinds
5 Players
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<u>Hero (SB): $50.90</u>
BB: $59.09
<u>UTG: $125.26</u>
CO: $48.25
BTN: $61.35

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (5 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $1</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.50</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $1.50

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($5.50) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $5</font>, UTG calls $5

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($15.50) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $13.50</font>, Hero calls $13.50

<font color="black">River:</font> ($42.50) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $21.50</font>, Hero ?

Did I play this sooo bad? Was he flushing or did he possibly hit the J on the turn?

yeotaJMU
04-17-2007, 09:29 PM
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Did I play this sooo bad? Was he flushing or did he possibly hit the J on the turn?

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does it matter? both beat you, so fold. a UTG minraise usually means a big hand. also, your pf raise needs to be to at least 4 or no hand is folding here at all (your raise is basically a minraise).

Id bet the flop as played, but im likely shutting down when called at this point. too many hands have you beat.

RMLewis
04-17-2007, 09:31 PM
This hand is a huge problem to me.
First, 3betting pf when you're out of position w/ 99 is not the best play. Not only did you 3bet, you only raised to 2.50, so you don't even narrow down his hand range.
Second,the turn check/call is questionable. by checking to him, you allow him to make a bet like the one he did, and you gained NO information as to the stregnth (or weakness) of his hand. Right now you're completely in the dark, you have no way to narrow down his range, fold and pick a better spot.

also... fold the river.. you shouldn't have been there int he first place

Kasane
04-17-2007, 10:17 PM
Your big mistake is preflop. That's a tiny and useless raise to make oop. He can call with ATC. Now you're playing against a much larger range on the flop than a real raise.

You can call that flop mr as well -- no shame. I'd like to know more about how villain's playing to make a raise or call decision. Speaking of which, ummm, what's with the PT stats??

Better Than U
04-17-2007, 10:20 PM
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Your big mistake is preflop. That's a tiny and useless raise to make oop. He can call with ATC. Now you're playing against a much larger range on the flop than a real raise

[/ QUOTE ]push preflop is the way to go imo

cbloom
04-17-2007, 10:24 PM
"31/67/14"

These stats make no sense.

1. Raise bigger preflop, or just call. Raising &gt;&gt; Calling though.

2. Bet flop near pot, good job.

3. Bet turn again. Actually CRAI is a nice option too.

4. Check-call most rivers.

This river is puke puke so I'm not sure what to do. The way you played it up to the river, you should block this river, like $15 or so. If you had made a bigger PFR and so on, you'd probably be pot stuck on the river.

So many times in these hands villain winds up showing A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif2/images/graemlins/club.gif or something insane.

Kimo White Devil
04-17-2007, 10:25 PM
*grunch

first of all, if you 3-bet some1, even a min-raise, you have to 3-bet harder so your c-bet is bigger and tougher for your opponent to play back. i raise to 3.75$ here.

Flop :standard
turn : If you check/call here, you'll have to fold river to aggression. Id really think bet/fold would be better here than anything.
river : i fold and wait for a better spot

NSchandler
04-17-2007, 10:27 PM
Preflop make it $4.

Flop is fine.

Turn I'd bet/fold.

As played, river is an easy fold IMO.

Better Than U
04-17-2007, 10:29 PM
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"31/67/14"

These stats make no sense.


[/ QUOTE ]Let me make sense of it, 67/31/14. Aggro factor goes past 14 so I'm assuming that part.

cbloom
04-17-2007, 10:30 PM
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"31/67/14"

These stats make no sense.


[/ QUOTE ]Let me make sense of it, 67/31/14. Aggro factor goes past 14 so I'm assuming that part.

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Is that aggro factor on the same scale as pokertracker?

Better Than U
04-17-2007, 10:36 PM
Not sure about that.

pokerash
04-18-2007, 06:03 AM
I pretty much knew I messed up this hand. I agree I should have folded the turn. I don't get any info by check calling.

Those stats are from PO and PT. I tried to find equivalent PT stats but it seems like its not the same scale. FYI its V$PIP/Pre Flop Raise%/Post Flop Aggro factor

Not sure how the AF is calculated

Loc0Loc0
04-18-2007, 06:33 AM
Pretty standard.
It goes wrong preflop, where you give him 3.66 to 1. He calls ATC.

What you should do here? Raise it to 4,50 at least preflop en bet near the pot on the flop and give up the hand when you are called.

Stats are 31 hands/ vpip 67 / pfr 14 i think...

As played fold turn..But i should lead the turn...