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ontiltsoon
04-17-2007, 03:45 PM
No real reads on villain

What does average villain min raise this with?

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
5 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $18.20
CO: $8.80
Hero: $10.70
SB: $9.20
BB: $2.75

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $0.2</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $0.8</font>, 2 folds, CO calls.

Flop: 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($1.75, 2 players)
CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $1.3</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $2.6</font>, Hero ???

What does average villain min raise this with?

Turn: K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($6.95, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">CO bets $0.6</font>, Hero ???

Had no idea what to do. Call 'cause it's cheap?
Raise because maybe he has a draw?
Fold it's to probable he has me beat?

Ikaika
04-17-2007, 04:03 PM
Stupid turn bet makes it look like he has a flush draw and doesn't want to get blown off his hand. You can probably expect to see Axs here a fair bit. I want to raise but stack sizes make it awkward...

kolotoure
04-17-2007, 04:11 PM
Call and snap off a bluff on a non spade/A river

Ikaika
04-17-2007, 04:17 PM
how big of a bet on the river? Half pot?

kolotoure
04-17-2007, 04:18 PM
Ya about that

Xanta
04-17-2007, 04:18 PM
I'd be tempted to call anything &lt; pot on the river if the scarecards don't come.

Also raising the turn here is pretty bad IMO.

Ikaika
04-17-2007, 04:20 PM
ICY now, call makes more sense on turn.

poon
04-17-2007, 04:45 PM
villan looks like an idiot so i might just push turn, he'll show up with trip kings every once in a while but epsicaly after him small betting the turn, he has a flush draw nearly 80% of the time and will probly call allin with it &gt;50% Might even have 88 too.

poon
04-17-2007, 06:02 PM
when i said 88 i ment a pocket pair that didnt flop trips... dunno why i cant edit post