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payday
04-17-2007, 12:11 PM
Villain is 45/11/1.8 over 45 hands, No reads. I hadn't been getting out of line so I think he has at least an ace.

Seat 1: ($16.41)
Seat 2: Villain ($109.39)
Seat 3: ($12.75)
Seat 4: Short Stack ($1.09)
Seat 5: ($32.25)
Seat 6: Hero ($97.65)

Villain posts the small blind of $0.25
Big Blind posts the big blind of $0.50

The button is in seat #1

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to Hero[A /images/graemlins/club.gif K /images/graemlins/club.gif]

Short Stack raises to $1.09 and is all-in
1 fold
Hero raises to $4.00
1 fold
Villain calls $3.75
1 fold

*** FLOP *** [A /images/graemlins/diamond.gif 9 /images/graemlins/spade.gif 8 /images/graemlins/club.gif]
Villain checks
Hero bets $7.00
Villain raises to $30.59
Hero folds

Is this too weak? My thinking was I was way ahead/behind and likely to play for stacks..

RobAtticus
04-17-2007, 12:28 PM
I'm going to go with a set of 9s or 8s on his part. I don't see him showing down a hand you can beat often here (like AQ/AJ or QQ/JJ). Fold seems like a good decision considering you're only other option is to shove here and pray.

kolotoure
04-17-2007, 12:35 PM
Preflop - Standard

Flop - Lead is standard and with that AF I doubt he ever does this with <AK. What is your plan for the turn if he had just called?

.xxxx.
04-17-2007, 01:29 PM
nice fold man, even if you call I don't think you're ever way ahead especially if villain was that much of a lagtard 45/11/1.8 he would have RR preflop. I am curious about what your stats were at that time, mind posting?

HBomb
04-17-2007, 02:17 PM
Of course you're either way ahed or way behind, however in this case I believe you are way behind...he might of called for set value and you might be looking down the barrel of a flopped set or possibly even 2 pair which seems possible being that his VPIP is 45ish, I don't think it's worth going broke here with just AK in such a large pot going to the turn..

04-17-2007, 02:49 PM
Well played

meleader2
04-17-2007, 02:57 PM
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I'm going to go with a set of 9s or 8s on his part. I don't see him showing down a hand you can beat often here (like AQ/AJ or QQ/JJ). Fold seems like a good decision considering you're only other option is to shove here and pray.

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whoa whoa WHOA. set of 9s or 8s?! he's 45 vpip. try A9, A8, 98.

HBomb
04-17-2007, 03:36 PM
Calling stations do hit big hands too from time to time /images/graemlins/smile.gif Kind of how you play most of the time ^^ lol.

c_me_loose
04-17-2007, 03:51 PM
i like folding here=) another aprotche is calling, bet about half the pot on the turn, if he pushes/raises u, you can fold=) but i think folding on the flopp is the right play

payday
04-17-2007, 08:49 PM
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nice fold man, even if you call I don't think you're ever way ahead especially if villain was that much of a lagtard 45/11/1.8 he would have RR preflop. I am curious about what your stats were at that time, mind posting?

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My Stats were Approx. 18/14/2. I did think A8, A9 were a big part of his range here, however villain had AQ. I guess I call next time.

corsakh
04-17-2007, 08:54 PM
Good hand.

boondoggle
04-18-2007, 04:13 AM
The question to ask is how often will he have AQ or Ax that does not beat you?? I fold this everytime and if he is that bad, you can find much easier spots to take his money.

cheers
Boon

Waingro
04-18-2007, 04:21 AM
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nice fold man, even if you call I don't think you're ever way ahead especially if villain was that much of a lagtard 45/11/1.8 he would have RR preflop. I am curious about what your stats were at that time, mind posting?

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My Stats were Approx. 18/14/2. I did think A8, A9 were a big part of his range here, however villain had AQ. I guess I call next time.

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You beat me to it. When I was scrolling down all the responses, patting your back, I was like "OMG push". IŽd say AQ is about the middle of his range for this, and I think he does this with other aces as well.

Let_it_rain
04-18-2007, 06:54 AM
hey i never asked did you end up stacking him later on?

payday
04-18-2007, 08:20 AM
No,unfortunately not.

Nutstylin
04-18-2007, 08:56 AM
still a good fold... if he's throwing chips around with average holdings wait until u are stronger than just top pair and stack him

Sam Spade
04-18-2007, 09:05 AM
I think you played the hand well. You reraised to isolate the short stacker and got a call from a loose player. I like the lead, and I think the fold is fine. If he is willing to put money in here with A8 - AQ ,89 , 88, or 99 then we will get his money later.

You represented a big pair or AK preflop. At best he had to figure to be a 4:1 dog with a small pocket pair or dominated by a better ace. Take a few note notes on him, and don't be results oriented. IMHO, I think you made the right fold.

Edited to add AK in last paragraph.

payday
04-18-2007, 09:51 AM
Thanks for the positive feedback.

.xxxx.
04-18-2007, 12:14 PM
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nice fold man, even if you call I don't think you're ever way ahead especially if villain was that much of a lagtard 45/11/1.8 he would have RR preflop. I am curious about what your stats were at that time, mind posting?

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My Stats were Approx. 18/14/2. I did think A8, A9 were a big part of his range here, however villain had AQ. I guess I call next time.

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With your stats and how he was playing, you've got to find better spots against this guy. Keep making posts so it can help you take the results oriented part out of learning how to play.