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slickss
04-17-2007, 01:58 AM
Villain is 30/21.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $27.35
UTG+1: $45.55
CO: $26.40
Button: $139.90
SB: $27
Hero: $48.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif 9/images/graemlins/club.gif
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $1.75</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $5.5</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: T/images/graemlins/spade.gif 6/images/graemlins/club.gif A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($11.25, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $8</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($27.25, 2 players)
Hero?

Now, I'm quite sure he is on a strong ace, maybe AQ. I'd like comments on all streets, and some input on what to do on the turn. Is there any point in betting again?

kolotoure
04-17-2007, 02:05 AM
C/f

VPIP100
04-17-2007, 02:11 AM
Dont try to push people of their hands in micro NL, most of the time it wont work.

mikechops
04-17-2007, 02:12 AM
I wouldn't rr pre-flop. If it was a button raise maybe...

As played you need him to fold about 50% of the time. AT/AK/AA/66/TT snap call. He probably folds AJ and maybe AQ. Not enough to make pushing worthwhile.

czGLoRy
04-17-2007, 02:41 AM
Im pretty good at telling when people have an ace TP with weak kicker and I tried to push them off it too often. Big mistake at micro limits. Most of the time these players will get all their chips in middle with any TP, dont try it!

pokerg0d111
04-17-2007, 02:57 AM
pu8sh flop he will fold

CaucasianAsian29
04-17-2007, 03:49 AM
In Micro stakes trying to push someone off tpgk w/ a board like this is never a good idea. I c/f turn.

corsakh
04-17-2007, 04:13 AM
Subject is an extremely unprofitable proposition.

Pirelli
04-17-2007, 04:29 AM
The reason it doesn't work at these stakes is because there are so many morons who will felt less than TP whether it be middle pairs or draws etc. The people who call with these hands can't differentiate you from one of these fish.

What's worse is people don't understand what you are trying to represent, they aren't thinking about your hand, they aren't thinking about how bad their hand really is. They just want to call off their money in with their TP monster.

Think about how often you stack people when you have AK vs A9, that's precisely why pushing people off their hand doesn't work. Stick to value bets.

Jigsaws
04-17-2007, 04:40 AM
Check-fold. I don't RR preflop all that often here.