I am the worst player in the whole forum...........

[Klg0143]

I tried my hand at NL2 on stars.....well apparently I am terrible because I had people at my table all over 60% VP$IP except 1. One guy at my table had a 100% and raised 0 times preflop. Even this donk beat me, so I turn here.

I have read all the stickies but if you guys suggest I will reread them again thoroughly. I am asking everyone on these forums for help with my game. I will post hands from these crappy tables. I normally play over at full tilt but since it decides not to work at my university I don't have that option.

I am asking everyone here to point me in the right direction. I am not saying my game is world-class, it is very far from it. But I would like to think that I am better then the guy with 100% VP$IP, and the other people that called me down with 27. On these tables I was told play ABC poker don't bluff don't be stupid things like that, I obeyed and I think I did worse. Mind you I wasn't raising with bad hands or playing out of position. I was a borderline rock.

I would just like to understand all the leaks in my game and have them explain why they are leaks etc. Think of me as a project a fixer-upper.

Thank you 2+2 forum goers. (P.S this isn't a tilt topic)

[Gullanian]

Play super tight. Super super tight. You will make money (if not slowly). Peoples biggest problem with micro stakes is they give their opponents too much credit for experience and skill. A large bluff bet often is disregarded even if it's your first raise for 100 hands.

[Gelford]

We can tell you anything without knowing you ... and the only way to know you is to see your hands, so my only advice is post hands (and reply to posted hands) /images/graemlins/smile.gif

GL

[Klg0143]

Ok let me post some hands in this topic. Gullanian believe me I was playing very tight. Let me post some hands where I did play. I'll throw some up in a minute.

[Gelford]

Yeah make a new post tho, so it will be noticed /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Diamond Lie]

Also, if you want advice PM me and Id be willing to look over your sessions to note any obvious holes in your game.

Diamond Lie

[Gelford]

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Also, if you want advice PM me and Id be willing to look over your sessions to note any obvious holes in your game.

Diamond Lie

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Does that apply to me too /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Klg0143]

http://www.pokerhand.org/?1004179

http://www.pokerhand.org/?1004183

http://www.pokerhand.org/?1004185

http://www.pokerhand.org/?1004188 -this hand is a bad beat
this guy (Kah Vieria) is the guy with 100% VP$IP

These are all the hands I can come up with that are interesting from last session.

http://www.pokerhand.org/?1004197

http://www.pokerhand.org/?1004199
-was on the button with KJo, should I be calling it down?

I hope this is enough hands to see some stuff about my game. The problem with these is this is obviously different from how I play more normal limits.

[Skleice]

You would probably get more responses if you posted these hands individually. Also, these hands are full ring and this is a 6 max forum.

[Gelford]

Ohh ... you play full ring ?


Well here is the deal, fist two hands are interesting.

KJ is imo too loose, at least until you get more experience (hand 3 and 6)


And betting A2 (top pair button kicker) is no good.



Seems you are not tight enough ... no kidding /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[udbrky]

From just a short glance, here's some things I picked up on:

1) Overvaluing unsuited broadways. K-Jo is weak, especially multi-way. Limping behind limpers on the button isn't bad, because you'll have position, and someone won't have you beat every time. But I wouldn't raise limpers who will call anyway with it. You're just creating a bigger pot with a weak hand.

2) Overvaluing TP-ok kicker. A-T vs. his 66. True, he sucked out on you, but I'd start thinking A-K, A-Q against that heat. Especially if someone who is passive starts betting. Maybe he makes that play when weak a lot, and you picked up on it, not sure from that.

3) Use a hand translator, post one hand at a time in a thread, and insert your thoughts. That way, we can see where perhaps your thinking is off in a hand.

4) C-bets/ postflop v-bets look weak.

5) Chatting a lot. I wouldn't make comments. I like to chat about non-poker stuff in the chatbox, so people don't start thinking poker while they're playing, or thinking "omg, this guy thinks about poker!" sometimes, I type a guess on someone's hand, because about 60% of the time, they'll tell you what they had.

[Klg0143]

Huh 6 max I thought this was the micro forum?

[TheRenaissance]

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Huh 6 max I thought this was the micro forum?

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There is a dedicated full ring forum.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=FR

But you'll get decent replies here as well, just ignore the people that insists you must raise 44 utg.

[Gelford]

Well 6max'ers consider full ring'ers to be nits, while the nits consider us to be Lagtard Hyperaggro Calling Stations.

So the full ring'ers have their own forum now open for all stakes /images/graemlins/smile.gif (Just below our micro forum on the sidebar to your left)

[Klg0143]

1) I know that unsuited broadways are weak in a multi that was why I limped behind all those calling stations.

2)The A-10 play was because this guy called seriously everyhand and I was pretty sure he didn't have the A and if he did I was sure it was a bad kicker. I had played about 30 hands previous at the same table with this guy he was the biggest station ever, he seriously called every bet.

3) Ok I will post hands that style next time.

The chatter I can cut down on. I know what you mean about guessing a hand, people are way to cocky to not tell you what they had. Thank you for the analysis of my hands.

[Hoffma]

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http://www.pokerhand.org/?1004179

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Bet this flop a little more, at least 75% of pot (21c).

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http://www.pokerhand.org/?1004183

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Good fold. Somebody either called PF with a junk hand and hit two pair or has a pocket pair and hit a set.

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http://www.pokerhand.org/?1004185

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Your raise here should be 12c or 14c. Raise to x3 or 4x the blind + 2c for every limper. I am protecting my button with this hand, though it isn't great. This is raise or fold preflop. Other than that, your line is good, turn call is fine, river fold is fine.

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http://www.pokerhand.org/?1004188 -this hand is a bad beat
this guy (Kah Vieria) is the guy with 100% VP$IP

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This line is fine, the guy sucked out. Reload, shake it off, keep playing against this fool. You want him to make mistakes like this.

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http://www.pokerhand.org/?1004197

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I am not betting this flop OOP. Perhaps this is a leak in my game, but A3 is not a good multiway hand and you do not want to play big pots OOP. Your bets need to be stronger overall, at least half-pot size.

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http://www.pokerhand.org/?1004199
-was on the button with KJo, should I be calling it down?

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Raise this flop in position. To offer your opponent 2:1 odds, double his bet and add it onto the pot. This would mean raising it to 21c, though you could raise to 18c and accomplish the same. As played, you do not have the implied odds to call the turn.

Overall:
Forget about full ring, play 6max! Also, it looks a little like you're trying to play deep-stack poker with a short stack. I think you either need to play more aggressively with your short stack, or you need to sit at the table with a max buy-in.

[kurto]

Most of those are alright except-
(for starters... you're printing full ring games in a 6 max forum.)
(1) you don't bet/raise enough. In one hand 3 people limped so there was .09 in the pot and you raised it to .06. Everyone has odds to call. This raise serves no purpose but to inflate the pot with a mediocre hand. Either potraise it or do the 4x+(1bb * #of limpers) - raise it to at least $.12.

JJ hand- fine. Why did you raise that one fine but the other hands you raise less? (even though in those hands you have limpers?!?!?)

AQ hand- if the whole table regularly calls when you raise, you can raise the amount you raise preflop. You are out of position and completely missed the flop. I'm cool with check/folding. I'd cbet it if there was only one or 2 players (unless they were complete calling stations in which case you only value bet)

KJ os hand - You didn't raise enough considering all the limpers. At full ring, unless people are tight and going to fold, KJos is junk. I'm not raising this.
If I do I'm raising it POT which is about .20. If I have that many callers, I'm not cbetting. Turn call is fine because of the astronomical odds you get.

A10os- I don't know why you're raising this. (this is the hand with the crappy raise to .06) Against this villain, your play post flop is fine. I may even push if I think he'll call when I have him dominated. That's just a bad beat.

A3 hand- What are those bets? As you play better tables, people will take that pot away from you. Those bets are gross. It screams weakness. Check or make a real bet.

KJos- Its really a weak hand. Not sure I like it full max. (what are your stats?) Not sure how I feel about the flop. You have a bet and a reraise. Against good players you're often behind here. (at .02 tables this may not be the case. .02 poker doesn't often resemble other games as the players are often real bad and their play doesn't always make sense) On the turn (since you got there) you're possibly drawing dead. Its gonna cost you a lot more to find out if you're good. A fold is fine.

The worst part of the hand is telling them what you folded. Don't give players free info.

Overall- you need to work on your hand selection. You need to work on your betsizing.

[kurto]

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1) I know that unsuited broadways are weak in a multi that was why I limped behind all those calling stations.


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Why not... "I'm not completely confident in my game and I have a really weak hand... that's why I folded."

[udbrky]

I agree, when I run bad, or make bad decisions, I tighten up A LOT for a while, and think things through, observe my opponents, and play much more basic ABC poker. I think this helps a lot when things don't go well.

[Klg0143]

In everyones opinion here what is my biggest leak(s)? I thought my hand selection wasn't too bad (maybe it is)? General comments appreciated. I understand that I should have raised more now against these opponents in these situation to defend my hand.

[LMAO]

full ring huh?... set or forget my friend, set or forget.

[Diamond Lie]

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Also, if you want advice PM me and Id be willing to look over your sessions to note any obvious holes in your game.

Diamond Lie

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Does that apply to me too /images/graemlins/grin.gif

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LOL cant tell if you are leveling or not. (I think the fact you have 3k+ posts and I have about 1k it is? /images/graemlins/confused.gif)

If not, pm me and we can talk over messenger. I am always looking to talk strategy with fellow 2+2ers.