10NL KTs w/ STR8 flsh draw and gutshot

[fish leader]

Should I be c/c OOP or should I bet out in attempt to take it down in case I miss?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed)

BB ($9.35)
Hero ($9.90)
MP ($12.70)
CO ($5.35)
Button ($12.90)
SB ($9.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.35</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls $0.30, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($0.80) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.5</font>, SB calls $0.50.

Turn: ($1.80) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.6</font>

[BoerfSt]

You should fold the hand preflop.But you played it ok.Would have played it the same.

[Everlong]

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You should fold the hand preflop.

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BS

This is such a blanket statement. Dependeing on your style and table this is fine to open with.


Especially here at NL10 when villains will call you down 3 streets with a bare jack regardless of what hits.
I play it the same both streets (if I open w/ it). Perhaps even a somewhat larger flop bet since you are ahead of a lot on the flop with you quazillion outs.

[BoerfSt]

ok sorry, I should have said I fold this hand pre flop.

[fish leader]

Thanks. I normally do fold this PF but was playing a laggier table than normal. Maybe I should have, but just curious if the post flop was alright. Thanks.

[crushednuts]

This looks standard to me..
make it 4x BB PF..

[kolotoure]

Preflop - Standard

Flop - Standard

Turn - Standard

River - What is your plan here?

[fish leader]

If it blanks I'm done...

I think its pretty bad to continue with another. Would you fire again even if you miss? I never try enough to know how often that succeeds at this level.

[corsakh]

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You should fold the hand preflop.

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BS

This is such a blanket statement. Dependeing on your style and table this is fine to open with.

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BS

Depending on what your trying to achieve in terms of learning poker, ie putting yourself in hard situations in order to improve your play postflop - maybe. Other reasons make me smile /images/graemlins/smile.gif If you think KTs generates profit in UTG 6handed or it has any metagame value in micros in the future, thats fine.

ps Postflop was all right.

[Vyse]

raise 4xbb, fold pf, rest fin

[kolotoure]

People saying fold pf do you not realize that we have 2 Broadway cards AND that they're suited

[fish leader]

See thats where I get mixed up. This feels like I should raise it (my gut instinct). I watch some of the videos in the sticky threads. Some people argue ... no only ATs+ and 22+ UTG.

I guess this is why I struggle with if I should raise or fold here PF. I think what I did was fine and I'm sticking with it for now. If some 20k or 50k hands I see that this is very unprofitable, maybe I will change gears?

[Ikaika]

I'll usually raise this UTG as well.

[Everlong]

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See thats where I get mixed up. This feels like I should raise it (my gut instinct). I watch some of the videos in the sticky threads. Some people argue ... no only ATs+ and 22+ UTG.

I guess this is why I struggle with if I should raise or fold here PF. I think what I did was fine and I'm sticking with it for now. If some 20k or 50k hands I see that this is very unprofitable, maybe I will change gears?

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with c-bets, pairs, flops like these where you pick up draws (as long as you play them agg) I don't see how this would not be prof unless you run like ass.

and re playing it or not to start with:

I am a semi-nit 20/14 and I will open this on tables with setminers / c-betfolders 8 days a week. It has nothing to do with learning to play poker. ? wtf

[losingdonkey]

UTG I generally fold this at 10NL. You should get in the habit of making pot sized bets on the flop. As for the turn, unless you've got a read indicating he folds to two barrels, I'd check behind.

[JimboNYY24]

wtf@all the nits saying fold preflop

this hand looks fine

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I'll usually raise this UTG as well.

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yup

[corsakh]

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People saying fold pf do you not realize that we have 2 Broadway cards AND that they're suited

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I assume this is sarcasm.

To all those people saying "I dont fold KTs preflop" - sorry not everyone has such an adge as you do. And I am sure if the OP had the same edge as you claim to have, he would not be positing here.