bad call?

[Goldenad]

no reads. does this call make any sense? id appreciate some feedback, as im trying to learn a better cash game

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (4 handed) internettexasholdem.com (http://www.internettexasholdem.com)

SB ($50)
Hero ($65.65)
UTG ($72.80)
Button ($45.10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.25) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.5</font>, Button calls $2.50.

Turn: ($9.25) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $4</font>, Hero calls $4.

River: ($17.25) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $11.5</font>, Hero calls $11.50.

Final Pot: $40.25

[hra146]

not a bad call

terrible calls

[NSchandler]

I don't know, I'd probably fold the turn, but it is a fairly small bet. But no hand that you beat calls flop and bets both turn and river. So fold river.

[dividius]

OOP, with no reads...there's better spots to make money. I don't really mind the stab on the flop, but once they call, be done with the hand. Check-calling on the turn and river is simply horrible w/o a read on the guy. Maybe bet out or check raise as a bluff, but I certainly wouldn't be checking and calling.

[adamwils]

the flop bet was fine, but without any reads the turn and river calls have to be -ev

[jmgambler]

Having just called the PF raise, why are we leading out the flop, the right thing is to C/R or wait for the turn to C/R.

AS played its 50/50 for me, But I would probably let it go, your only beating a bluff, but thjis could have been so different

[hra146]

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Having just called the PF raise, why are we leading out the flop, the right thing is to C/R or wait for the turn to C/R.


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no

[ama0330]

Fold flop, fold turn, fold river. Tho id say you are posting this hand because he was triple barreling AK.

[hra146]

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Fold flop, fold turn, fold river. Tho id say you are posting this hand because he was triple barreling AK.

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Like most others I really dont mind the donk-a-flop style. However, I might wanna know that hes not a complete blufftard before doing so.

[ama0330]

The flop bet is dumb because you cant go three streets, you cant stand a re-raise, you dont have the initiative, and you are out of position, so your holecards are worthless. Donking the flop here is not something I would ever do, it sucks IMO.

[NSchandler]

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Fold flop, fold turn, fold river. Tho id say you are posting this hand because he was triple barreling AK.

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I seem to have pretty good success donking against pfr on boards like this. If they have overcards they'll fold, if they have a PP they'll raise/call and you can be done with the hand.

You think that's a bad move?

[jmgambler]

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Having just called the PF raise, why are we leading out the flop, the right thing is to C/R or wait for the turn to C/R.


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no

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Why, explain?.... By leading out the flop are we not just inviting an "auto" raise by UI overcards? at which point what do you do now......... fold , right?

[jmgambler]

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Having just called the PF raise, why are we leading out the flop, the right thing is to C/R or wait for the turn to C/R.


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no

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In addition............. saying "No" is about as helpful as a band aid on a shrapnel wound, explain why its "no".

I am here to learn too and If I am wrong, then show me why I am

[tiger_hall]

i dont mind you betting the flop but i dont like you call on the turn...give the hand up