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jumbojacks
04-15-2007, 04:13 AM
27/14/6.5 over 50 hands. He seems just to be a loose fit or fold type of player.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com (http://www.internettexasholdem.com)

BB ($48.75)
UTG ($15.15)
MP ($95.95)
Hero ($116.35)
SB ($54.55)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, SB calls $2.75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG folds, MP calls $2.50.

Flop: ($10) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $92.95 (All-In)</font>, Hero...

WTF?

jonyy6788
04-15-2007, 04:15 AM
call plz

.xxxx.
04-15-2007, 04:23 AM
I'd call for sure.

rivhawk02
04-15-2007, 04:38 AM
It looks like KQ KJ or QJ doesnt want to give a draw cheaply. Does A-10 really play the hand this way? Call and hope he doesnt fill up on the turn or river

jumbojacks
04-15-2007, 05:05 AM
The thought of calling here just feels really dirty, even with the 2nd nuts. KK/QQ/JJ are obviously discounted. AT I think is a real possibility. I can't really see him shoving 200BB into such a small pot with KQ/QJ/KJ, and there's of course T9.

catfish_01
04-15-2007, 11:42 AM
Someone who has an aggression factor of 6.5 (even across a small sample size) is most likely overaggressive. If a villian is capable of being a little too aggressive for his own good, you can't really assume he'll make good deep stack decisions until you've seen him do it again and again. Look at this bet: what good player would overshove on a flop 200bb deep?

The shove is so uncharacteristic it's hard to believe. Aggressive villians often actually try to trap money in on drawy boards if they have a monster, or will at least give you a chance to c-bet before they raise you.

When you say he seems a fit or fold type player, how many hands have you seen him showdown? Has he overbet before?

If you call it's definitely worth noting what he's done this with because deep stack mistakes = money for you.

thac
04-15-2007, 11:44 AM
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call plz

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Gullanian
04-15-2007, 11:47 AM
Call it. If he has AT just hope for an ace to pop out. Very few people all in when they hold the nuts.

Charlie_VB
04-15-2007, 11:52 AM
Easy call, nuts is never shoving here

barryc83
04-15-2007, 02:02 PM
sick cooler, i call

tiger_hall
04-15-2007, 02:03 PM
definitely a cooler.. i would call but expect to see A10 and be sick...

jumbojacks
04-15-2007, 03:30 PM
Yeah, I called, definitely weird due to his non-standard play. Fortunately, he didn't have AT.

rivhawk02
04-15-2007, 04:09 PM
Just out of curiosity, what did villian end up having?