Turn raises in 50NL

[el_grande]

Only 20 hands with Villians. Villian in hand 1 is 36/18, Villan in hand 2 is 20/9.

Hand 1:


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CO ($53.95)
Button ($98.55)
SB ($54.05)
BB ($10.85)
UTG ($20.80)
UTG+1 ($32.95)
MP1 ($62.35)
Hero ($56.15)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.50, MP1 calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB checks.

Flop: ($2.25) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $1</font>, MP1 folds, Hero calls $1, BB calls $1.

Turn: ($5.25) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $2.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $31.45</font>, Hero ???

Hand 2:

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SB ($53.05)
BB ($59.85)
UTG ($96.30)
UTG+1 ($36.40)
MP1 ($44.95)
MP2 ($42.35)
MP3 ($59.45)
CO ($25)
Hero ($52.15)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.50, MP1 calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $0.50, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($3) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $4</font>, MP3 folds, Hero calls $4, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls $2.

Turn: ($15) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $15</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $40.45</font>, Hero ???

[Better Than U]

In hand 1 all you have is a flush draw. Forget about your ace or 2 pair outs they're not good, so you gotta fold. Hand 2 is a fold as well.

[Isura]

Hand 1, don't raise the turn. I really really dislike the turn raise. You have a decent hand, but mostly a great hidden draw. I don't think he is going to fold a better hand on the turn, and your hand doesn't need protection on this board. Also, he'll fold his bluffs or worst pairs if you raise the turn, and you feel sick when he 3-bets. I agree with the first poster though, that only your flush outs are good, so you can't call based on the pot odds.

Hand 2, just fold the flop. Its too likely that someone will have a bigger FD with this action. And don't raise the turn unless you are confident to get it all-in with your flush. Otherwise just call, and think about getting away from the hand on the river.

[HANABI]

I agree with that isura said. There are no benefits in raising the turn in hand 1, it basically turns your hand into a bluff and you may not get to see the river if raised. I'd like that play more with something like 2nd pair and flush draw. Another reason to just call is to take bb for a ride so when you hit your flush you could possibly get more value out of it.

Hand 2, well once there is a bet and a raise, and you call on that board, you're basically playing your hand face up. Wouldn't be too bad if you were drawing to the nuts and was sure utg+1 won't push over the top. As it is fold on the flop is best i think.

[el_grande]

I folded both of these. Agree the raise in hand 1 was bad. Hand 2 I raised with the intention of folding to a reraise. It probably saved me a little money. Since I would have had to call any normal sized river bet.