NL50: KK in SB, would you call?

[flyerr]

Hello, my first hand posting in 2+2 /images/graemlins/smile.gif

No reads on villan only 20 hands. This was the third time in a row that he open-raised on the button when folded to him.
villain was 30/10/2 from those hands...

Would you guys call this flop shove?

Absolute Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter (http://www.learnhowtoplaypokerfree.com/convert/convert.cgi) Courtesy of PokerZion.com (http://PokerZion.com)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Button ($48.40)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($49.90)</font>
BB ($50.83)
UTG ($45)
MP ($81.35)
CO ($97.95)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $1.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $11.5</font>, Hero calls $8.

Flop: ($23.50) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $36.9 (All-In)</font>, Hero ??

[thac]

Sure, you're getting 3:1 and it's a 4-bet pot preflop (I probably just stick it in preflop) If you don't wanna call this raise, don't bet the flop.

[SykoraG]

Generally if I'm not pushing to a 4bet with Kings only 100BB deep, then I definately push any flop without an ace. Get it in.

[Better Than U]

Well one side of the coin you beat AJ/QQ on the other side of that coin he doesn't usually have those hands. Tough spot but I never fold. That doesn't mean calling is right though because I don't think it is.

[thac]

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Well one side of the coin you beat AJ/QQ on the other side of that coin he doesn't usually have those hands. Tough spot but I never fold. That doesn't mean calling is right though because I don't think it is.

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Exactly.. you got in a sticky situation with your actions earlier in the hand. This call is almost necessary given how much is in the pot and how little you have to call, but I don't like it.

[kolotoure]

I think this is AA/QQ

[flyerr]

Tough spot indeed. I figure he would re-raise me PF in position with QQ but would also with AA. maybe i should'nt lead bet on the flop for 1/2 pot...

[Better Than U]

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I think this is AA/QQ

[/ QUOTE ]FWIW this is exactly what I think but add in a chance of JJ and TT and it's a terrible call.

[kolotoure]

and I think he has AA a lot more then QQ

[flyerr]

thank you for the answers /images/graemlins/smile.gif just wanted to see if my call was as bad as I thought it was after I made it...Here is the complete result:

Absolute Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter (http://www.learnhowtoplaypokerfree.com/convert/convert.cgi) Courtesy of PokerZion.com (http://PokerZion.com)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Button ($48.40)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($49.90)</font>
BB ($50.83)
UTG ($45)
MP ($81.35)
CO ($97.95)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $1.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $11.5</font>, Hero calls $8.

Flop: ($23.50) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $36.9 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $24.90.

Turn: ($97.30) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($97.30) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $97.30

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Button has Ah Ac (one pair, aces).
Hero has Ks Kc (one pair, kings).
Outcome: Button wins $97.30. </font>

[Jouster777]

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I think this is AA/QQ

[/ QUOTE ]FWIW this is exactly what I think but add in a chance of JJ and TT and it's a terrible call.

[/ QUOTE ]Actually, even if you add JJ and TT its still a call:
AA/TT/JJ = 12 combos
QQ = 6 combos

Odds we beat his range: 1:2
Pot odds: ~3:1

[Better Than U]

Thanks Jouster.

PS: I like the "complete results" without complete results lol.

[flyerr]

lol /images/graemlins/smile.gif converter screwed up and then PC crashed...Its really Complete now /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[jmgambler]

Ugh...... I haven't read the rest of the replies, you are ONLY beating ONE hand given the action QQ, would someone 3-bet with AJ here?

I am leaning towards folding as played........ But why did you not Push PF?

[crushednuts]

I almost never bet that flop. If you think there is a decent chance he has QQ you have to CRAI so he thinks you have AK. I agree that this is AA ALOT more than QQ however..

[sightless]

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I am leaning towards folding as played........ But why did you not Push PF?

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wouldnt only aces call pf push?

[Isura]

I would get it in PF. And as played, check/raise the flop.