How do you play this turn - nl50-vs a tag

[sightless]

The guy is 17/9/3.67 over 100 hands or so

no real reads

I've been raising a lot PF lately, coupel fo times with good hands, couple of bluffs, never showed anythign down though
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UTG ($44.30)
MP ($48.50)
CO ($33.25)
Button ($49.25)
Hero ($71.85)
BB ($31.35)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $4.

Flop: ($12.50) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, MP calls $8.

Turn: ($28.50) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

[Check_The_Nuts]

check/call check/fold is what I would do. If he checks behind on turn I probably bet river.

No idea if this is a good idea or not.

[Chomp]

I fire again.

Will villain re-raise (such that we have to fold) with 99-JJ/AK/random junk? Almost certainly not IMO given strength hero has shown. But he'll call with several drawing or worse made hands.

If called, I'm not sure about b/c, c/c river (and of course it depends on the card), but on a blank I'd probably go with a simple vb.

[sightless]

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I fire again.

Will villain re-raise (such that we have to fold) with 99-JJ/AK/random junk? Almost certainly not IMO given strength hero has shown. But he'll call with several drawing or worse made hands.

If called, I'm not sure about b/c, c/c river (and of course it depends on the card), but on a blank I'd probably go with a simple vb.

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But If i bet turn and river I get my whole stack in there, and all the villain has to do to get my stack is keep calling

[crushednuts]

Anyone else like a CR/AI to stack JJ??

[Chomp]

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I fire again.

Will villain re-raise (such that we have to fold) with 99-JJ/AK/random junk? Almost certainly not IMO given strength hero has shown. But he'll call with several drawing or worse made hands.

If called, I'm not sure about b/c, c/c river (and of course it depends on the card), but on a blank I'd probably go with a simple vb.

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But If i bet turn and river I get my whole stack in there, and all the villain has to do to get my stack is keep calling

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But he gets our stack with what better hand?

Is he smooth calling flop with AA/KK? Maybe, but I don't really think so.

Similarly, I don't think sets make up a big enough part of his range to worry about until we see some evidence that that is what he has. That evidence would be most striking if we get Baluga-ed on turn, in which case I fold.

So basically on the turn I just think 99-JJ/random pp/draw/AK are a bigger part of his range than AA/KK/set.

Dunno sightless, I stack off with QQ far too often, so perhaps I am off beam here.

[Stoneflip]

Fire again. You are only worried about AA/KK/set and with those stats it doesn't seem to fit.

[Better Than U]

Why wouldn't AA or a set make sense? A set makes sense cuz he is first in the pot and open raising. I think there's a good chance he has 99-JJ as well and seeing how you react to a call on the flop. He likely folds everything you beat if you bet the turn if he's decent so I check/call and lead river or check/fold river depending what I think of him.

[deleteduser]

Fire again and check behind the river. What can we put villain on here? I think the only thing that fits is 10's JJ at best because of the pf raise. I dont see him calling the flop with face's. A set is the second hand you can put him on here, but does he raise with low PP's? This is even still unlikely which is why im fireing again.

[Stoneflip]

Seeing how he has Taggish stats, I would think AA or set would protect from draws and take down the pot on the flop.
I could be wrong though, has happened before.

[Better Than U]

Protect from what draws? The board is 652 rainbow. He likely puts OP on exactly the kind of hand he has, an overpair with a slight chance of AK/AQs. Would you raise this flop in a reraised pot with a set? I wouldn't.

[Stoneflip]

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Protect from what draws? The board is 652 rainbow. He likely puts OP on exactly the kind of hand he has, an overpair with a slight chance of AK/AQs. Would you raise this flop in a reraised pot with a set? I wouldn't.

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Good point. I was looking at the draws on the turn and not the flop. Yes, a set would float this flop.