View Full Version : Simple JJ question
cbloom
04-14-2007, 04:49 AM
Not much read, villain is average. Note he's kind of short.
No Limit Hold'em Ring Game (6 max) , 6 players
Blinds : $0.10/$0.25
Stacks:
UTG : $35.90
Hero : $36.45
CO : $24.40
Button : $18.35
SB : $64.05
BB : $15.65
Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is MP with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif J/images/graemlins/heart.gif
UTG limps, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1.20</font>, CO calls, Button calls, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $3.25</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls ($2.05), CO folds, Button folds.
Flop: T/images/graemlins/spade.gif 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($9.25, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $5</font>, Hero ???
Should I just fold preflop? What now?
SykoraG
04-14-2007, 04:58 AM
so easy, put him all in...
kolotoure
04-14-2007, 05:17 AM
Calling and folding to any more action is my standard line in spots like this
JadeRedstone
04-14-2007, 05:20 AM
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Calling and folding to any more action is my standard line in spots like this
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Did you notice BB stack size?
VegasNick
04-14-2007, 05:21 AM
im thinking he has aces or kings here
MegaRigger
04-14-2007, 05:43 AM
You made the decision preflop, if you call you have to go all the way on a board like this one : just push.
kolotoure
04-14-2007, 05:45 AM
Making 1 bad decision doesn't mean you have to make another one
kaz2107
04-14-2007, 05:56 AM
when i played 25nl a while back i woulda just shoved preflop.shorty at 25nl= a donk. so i just simplify tha situation and shove. u will get called by plenty of random trash to make this +EV (assuming u have a non nit image)
VegasNick
04-14-2007, 05:57 AM
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Making 1 bad decision doesn't mean you have to make another one
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kolotoure
04-14-2007, 06:01 AM
I have no idea how 25nl plays so just ignore my advice. I know at 50nl 3-bet nearly always AK,JJ+ unless villain is a tard
Pirelli
04-14-2007, 06:38 AM
Fold preflop if you're even considering folding this. You don't have implied odds for a set against a shortstack.
Markusgc
04-14-2007, 06:45 AM
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I have no idea how 25nl plays so just ignore my advice. I know at 50nl 3-bet nearly always AK,JJ+ unless villain is a tard
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It's very often AK or 99/TT (of course it could be better) The villain's stack determines the action though, IMO.
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Fold preflop if you're even considering folding this. You don't have implied odds for a set against a shortstack.
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Hellmouth
04-14-2007, 08:03 AM
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I have no idea how 25nl plays so just ignore my advice. I know at 50nl 3-bet nearly always AK,JJ+ unless villain is a tard
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Yes we have plenty more Tards down at NL25. Honestly I have seen people 3bet with any pocket pair. Someone just threebet me last week with 55 preflop?!?!?!
Greg
TheRenaissance
04-14-2007, 08:07 AM
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I have no idea how 25nl plays so just ignore my advice. I know at 50nl 3-bet nearly always AK,JJ+ unless villain is a tard
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Yes we have plenty more Tards down at NL25. Honestly I have seen people 3bet with any pocket pair. Someone just threebet me last week with 55 preflop?!?!?!
Greg
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I 3bet some opponents with all sorts of hands.
Does that make me a tard?
Chomp
04-14-2007, 09:23 AM
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I have no idea how 25nl plays so just ignore my advice. I know at 50nl 3-bet nearly always AK,JJ+ unless villain is a tard
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Yes we have plenty more Tards down at NL25. Honestly I have seen people 3bet with any pocket pair. Someone just threebet me last week with 55 preflop?!?!?!
Greg
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Well, I'm trying to make it at 100NL at the moment and am pretty sure 3betting 55 in a wide range of situations is probably the correct play. Perhaps you are saying that 3b 55 at 25NL is a different proposition to doing it higher up and is therefore a bad play, but TBH I'm not sure the games are so different as that.
After all, at 25NL, 22-AA, AT+, Broadway/Broadway, random crap raise you EP, you 3b 55, and it is now very likely that you are going to win this pot a large number if times, sometimes with a worse hand and (by definition) with a vulnerable/marginal one.
I think that may be the case at both 25NL and 100NL.
FWIW, I don't consider myself a strong enough player to 3b 55 regularly with confidence.
Check_The_Nuts
04-14-2007, 10:42 AM
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I have no idea how 25nl plays so just ignore my advice. I know at 50nl 3-bet nearly always AK,JJ+ unless villain is a tard
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Yes we have plenty more Tards down at NL25. Honestly I have seen people 3bet with any pocket pair. Someone just threebet me last week with 55 preflop?!?!?!
Greg
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sorry man, I stopped reraising 22-44 if it makes u happy.
Xanta
04-14-2007, 10:57 AM
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I have no idea how 25nl plays so just ignore my advice. I know at 50nl 3-bet nearly always AK,JJ+ unless villain is Kool_Moe_Dee
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FYP
cbloom
04-14-2007, 12:35 PM
Yeah I guess I have to just fold preflop. His reraise into the whole field looks really strong, it's probably KK+ and I don't ahve odds.
I think if he had $10 or less I would want to get him all in, but at $15 it's not worth it.
ama0330
04-14-2007, 05:28 PM
I fold this flop.
jmgambler
04-14-2007, 05:30 PM
Hero Pushes and hopes its not QQ/KK/AA.... whats the guy got behind him? like $6?
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