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FGators
04-12-2007, 10:03 PM
How are you guys doing? Haven't seriously talked in a while. I've been doing great, only on suicide watch on Sundays, Mondays, Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Thursdays,Fridays, and Saturdays, and Sundays. My funeral will be Janurary 3rd or 4th (depending on the availability of the funeral home) after I get Supernova Elite for the year. All are welcome. I'd like Nath as one of the guys to carry my coffin. He has been blessed with good hands.
These hands are as they were played. I have no need to change the hand histories, as we know. There are some good plays, some bad plays, etc.
EDIT: there are all hands I've played today (Thursday April 12th) that are over $100 or right near it. There are those that say it's not about just the big pots so these are all the significant ones I've played up until this point.
Enjoy, and as always, best wishes at the table because there is no good "luck" in poker.
FGators.
PokerStars Game #9388758286: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 18:44:55 (ET)
Table 'Hekate V' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: FGators26 ($199.70 in chips)
Seat 2: MeowMeowCat ($376.30 in chips)
Seat 3: bettyboo123 ($122.80 in chips)
Seat 4: jakally ($303.90 in chips)
Seat 5: paronoid ($696.90 in chips)
FGators26: posts small blind $1
MeowMeowCat: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Tc Th]
bettyboo123: folds
jakally: raises $6 to $8
paronoid: folds
FGators26: raises $18 to $26
MeowMeowCat: folds
jakally: calls $18
*** FLOP *** [Qd Ad 7c]
FGators26: bets $40
Haloth2 has returned
jakally: raises $237.90 to $277.90 and is all-in
FGators26: folds
jakally collected $132 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $134 | Rake $2
Board [Qd Ad 7c]
Seat 1: FGators26 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: MeowMeowCat (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: bettyboo123 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: jakally collected ($132)
Seat 5: paronoid (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
okerStars Game #9388987075: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 18:59:25 (ET)
Table 'Honoria III' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Reimertz ($376.95 in chips)
Seat 2: Duffs#1fan ($202 in chips)
Seat 3: Bad Beatz ($230.75 in chips)
Seat 4: FGators26 ($231 in chips)
Seat 5: MeowMeowCat ($337.95 in chips)
Seat 6: nsd4eva ($200 in chips)
MeowMeowCat: posts small blind $1
nsd4eva: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Tc Th]
Reimertz: folds
Duffs#1fan: folds
Bad Beatz: folds
Duffs#1fan leaves the table
FGators26: raises $6 to $8
MeowMeowCat: folds
nsd4eva: raises $17 to $25
FGators26: raises $206 to $231 and is all-in
nsd4eva: calls $175 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [4c 3d 5s]
*** TURN *** [4c 3d 5s] [3c]
*** RIVER *** [4c 3d 5s 3c] [6s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
nsd4eva: shows [Ac As] (two pair, Aces and Threes)
FGators26: mucks hand
nsd4eva collected $398 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $401 | Rake $3
Board [4c 3d 5s 3c 6s]
Seat 1: Reimertz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Duffs#1fan folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Bad Beatz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: FGators26 (button) mucked [Tc Th]
Seat 5: MeowMeowCat (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: nsd4eva (big blind) showed [Ac As] and won ($398) with two pair, Aces and Threes
okerStars Game #9389148974: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 19:09:29 (ET)
Table 'Dubiago' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: yankdog ($246 in chips)
Seat 2: DF_Newb ($200 in chips)
Seat 3: luremusa ($232 in chips)
Seat 4: FGators26 ($269.25 in chips)
Seat 5: cariadon ($210 in chips)
Seat 6: forbzy1 ($96 in chips)
DF_Newb: posts small blind $1
luremusa: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Qc Qs]
FGators26: raises $6 to $8
cariadon: folds
forbzy1: raises $12 to $20
yankdog: folds
DF_Newb: folds
luremusa: calls $18
FGators26: raises $80 to $100
forbzy1: folds
luremusa: calls $80
*** FLOP *** [4s Kh 8d]
luremusa: bets $2
FGators26: calls $2
*** TURN *** [4s Kh 8d] [5d]
luremusa: bets $40
FGators26: folds
luremusa collected $222 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $225 | Rake $3
Board [4s Kh 8d 5d]
Seat 1: yankdog (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: DF_Newb (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: luremusa (big blind) collected ($222)
Seat 4: FGators26 folded on the Turn
Seat 5: cariadon folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: forbzy1 folded before Flop
PokerStars Game #9389254024: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 19:16:05 (ET)
Table 'Oceana V' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Junbo ($101.60 in chips)
Seat 2: FGators26 ($402.35 in chips)
Seat 3: Haloth2 ($214 in chips)
Seat 4: mr jj cake ($140.35 in chips)
Seat 5: gregnic6 ($139.65 in chips)
mr jj cake: posts small blind $1
gregnic6: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Ks As]
Junbo: calls $2
FGators26: raises $10 to $12
Haloth2: folds
mr jj cake: folds
gregnic6: calls $10
Junbo: calls $10
*** FLOP *** [Kc 3s Qh]
gregnic6: bets $14
Junbo: folds
Junbo leaves the table
FGators26: raises $24 to $38
gregnic6: calls $24
*** TURN *** [Kc 3s Qh] [9h]
gregnic6: checks
FGators26: bets $352.35 and is all-in
gregnic6: calls $89.65 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [Kc 3s Qh 9h] [7s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
gregnic6: shows [Jh Td] (a straight, Nine to King)
FGators26: mucks hand
gregnic6 collected $290.30 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $292.30 | Rake $2
Board [Kc 3s Qh 9h 7s]
Seat 1: Junbo folded on the Flop
Seat 2: FGators26 mucked [Ks As]
Seat 3: Haloth2 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: mr jj cake (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: gregnic6 (big blind) showed [Jh Td] and won ($290.30) with a straight, Nine to King
PokerStars Game #9389380805: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 19:24:04 (ET)
Table 'Oceana V' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: FGators26 ($253.70 in chips)
Seat 4: mr jj cake ($199.20 in chips)
Seat 5: gregnic6 ($267.45 in chips)
Seat 6: CrabClaws ($200 in chips)
CrabClaws: posts small blind $1
FGators26: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [7h Ah]
mr jj cake: folds
gregnic6: folds
CrabClaws: raises $6 to $8
FGators26: calls $6
*** FLOP *** [Ad 5s 2c]
CrabClaws: bets $12
FGators26: calls $12
*** TURN *** [Ad 5s 2c] [7s]
CrabClaws: bets $32
FGators26: calls $32
*** RIVER *** [Ad 5s 2c 7s] [6s]
CrabClaws: bets $55
FGators26: raises $146.70 to $201.70 and is all-in
CrabClaws: calls $93 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FGators26: shows [7h Ah] (two pair, Aces and Sevens)
CrabClaws: shows [Ts Qs] (a flush, Queen high)
CrabClaws collected $398 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $400 | Rake $2
Board [Ad 5s 2c 7s 6s]
Seat 2: FGators26 (big blind) showed [7h Ah] and lost with two pair, Aces and Sevens
Seat 4: mr jj cake folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: gregnic6 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: CrabClaws (small blind) showed [Ts Qs] and won ($398) with a flush, Queen high
PokerStars Game #9389611519: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 19:38:33 (ET)
Table 'Oceana V' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: owlking ($124.15 in chips)
Seat 2: FGators26 ($217.60 in chips)
Seat 3: Bad Beatz ($207.20 in chips)
Seat 4: jus2awsum ($200 in chips)
Seat 5: gregnic6 ($299 in chips)
Seat 6: CrabClaws ($365 in chips)
Bad Beatz: posts small blind $1
jus2awsum: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Jc Jh]
gregnic6: calls $2
CrabClaws: calls $2
owlking: calls $2
FGators26: raises $12 to $14
Bad Beatz: calls $13
jus2awsum: calls $12
gregnic6: folds
CrabClaws: calls $12
owlking: calls $12
*** FLOP *** [9d 4h 7h]
Bad Beatz: checks
jus2awsum: checks
CrabClaws: checks
owlking: bets $12
FGators26: raises $44 to $56
Bad Beatz: folds
jus2awsum: raises $130 to $186 and is all-in
CrabClaws: folds
owlking: calls $98.15 and is all-in
FGators26: folds
*** TURN *** [9d 4h 7h] [6s]
*** RIVER *** [9d 4h 7h 6s] [2h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
jus2awsum: shows [9c 9s] (three of a kind, Nines)
owlking: mucks hand
PokerStars Game #9389685348: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 19:43:01 (ET)
Table 'Lacadiera IV' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: pochen ($225.50 in chips)
Seat 2: Cassler421 ($143.85 in chips)
Seat 3: FGators26 ($239.10 in chips)
Seat 4: dani06 ($36.20 in chips)
Seat 5: SilverTarga ($200.45 in chips)
Seat 6: MidnightTokr ($468 in chips)
dani06: posts small blind $1
SilverTarga: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [7d 5d]
MidnightTokr: raises $6 to $8
pochen: folds
Cassler421: folds
FGators26: calls $8
dani06: calls $7
SilverTarga: folds
*** FLOP *** [8d 6h Th]
dani06: checks
MidnightTokr: bets $14
FGators26: calls $14
dani06: folds
*** TURN *** [8d 6h Th] [3h]
MidnightTokr: checks
FGators26 said, "45"
FGators26: bets $45
MidnightTokr: calls $45
*** RIVER *** [8d 6h Th 3h] [8s]
MidnightTokr: checks
FGators26: bets $100
MidnightTokr: calls $100
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FGators26: shows [7d 5d] (a pair of Eights)
MidnightTokr: shows [Qs Qh] (two pair, Queens and Eights)
MidnightTokr collected $341 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
PokerStars Game #9389753325: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 19:47:11 (ET)
Table 'Boliviana II' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: saloon10bill ($116.70 in chips)
Seat 2: greear66 ($128.20 in chips)
Seat 3: FGators26 ($249 in chips)
Seat 4: jus2awsum ($197 in chips)
Seat 5: Sporto58 ($624.80 in chips)
Seat 6: cariadon ($246 in chips)
cariadon: posts small blind $1
saloon10bill: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [8c 8h]
greear66: raises $6 to $8
FGators26: calls $8
jus2awsum: folds
Sporto58: folds
cariadon: calls $7
saloon10bill: calls $6
*** FLOP *** [4d 8d 6c]
cariadon: bets $20
saloon10bill: calls $20
greear66: raises $100.20 to $120.20 and is all-in
FGators26: raises $120.80 to $241 and is all-in
cariadon: calls $218 and is all-in
saloon10bill: calls $88.70 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [4d 8d 6c] [Ad]
*** RIVER *** [4d 8d 6c Ad] [7c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
cariadon: shows [6h 6s] (three of a kind, Sixes)
FGators26: shows [8c 8h] (three of a kind, Eights)
FGators26 collected $235.60 from side pot-2
greear66: shows [Ah Ac] (three of a kind, Aces)
greear66 collected $34.50 from side pot-1
saloon10bill: mucks hand
greear66 collected $463.80 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $736.90 Main pot $463.80. Side pot-1 $34.50. Side pot-2 $235.60. | Rake $3
Board [4d 8d 6c Ad 7c]
Seat 1: saloon10bill (big blind) mucked [9c 7d]
Seat 2: greear66 showed [Ah Ac] and won ($498.30) with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 3: FGators26 showed [8c 8h] and won ($235.60) with three of a kind, Eights
Seat 4: jus2awsum folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Sporto58 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: cariadon (small blind) showed [6h 6s] and lost with three of a kind, Sixes
PokerStars Game #9389804509: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 19:50:20 (ET)
Table 'Phaedra III' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: mikeyshim11 ($117.75 in chips)
Seat 2: racer1979 ($108.35 in chips)
Seat 3: niboj ($91 in chips)
Seat 4: mackie18 ($116.50 in chips)
Seat 5: FGators26 ($320.55 in chips)
Seat 6: pacers00 ($104.70 in chips)
pacers00: posts small blind $1
mikeyshim11: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [As 6s]
racer1979: raises $2 to $4
niboj: folds
mackie18: calls $4
FGators26: calls $4
pacers00: folds
mikeyshim11: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [7h 2s Qs]
mikeyshim11: checks
racer1979: checks
mackie18: bets $10
FGators26: calls $10
mikeyshim11: folds
racer1979: folds
*** TURN *** [7h 2s Qs] [7d]
mackie18: bets $18
FGators26: calls $18
*** RIVER *** [7h 2s Qs 7d] [Ks]
mackie18: bets $50
FGators26: raises $50 to $100
mackie18: calls $34.50 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FGators26: shows [As 6s] (a flush, Ace high)
mackie18: shows [Kc Kd] (a full house, Kings full of Sevens)
mackie18 collected $239 from pot
PokerStars Game #9390022882: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 20:03:51 (ET)
Table 'Dubiago' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 4: FGators26 ($297.35 in chips)
Seat 5: cariadon ($391.15 in chips)
Seat 6: franzappa ($115.30 in chips)
cariadon: posts small blind $1
franzappa: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Ac Js]
FGators26: raises $6 to $8
cariadon: calls $7
franzappa: folds
*** FLOP *** [7d 6s As]
cariadon: checks
FGators26: bets $14
cariadon: calls $14
*** TURN *** [7d 6s As] [Jc]
cariadon: bets $35
FGators26: raises $61 to $96
cariadon: raises $273.15 to $369.15 and is all-in
FGators26: calls $179.35 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [7d 6s As Jc] [5d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
cariadon: shows [3s 4s] (a straight, Three to Seven)
FGators26: mucks hand
cariadon collected $595.70 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $596.70 | Rake $1
Board [7d 6s As Jc 5d]
Seat 4: FGators26 (button) mucked [Ac Js]
Seat 5: cariadon (small blind) showed [3s 4s] and won ($595.70) with a straight, Three to Seven
Seat 6: franzappa (big blind) folded before Flop
PokerStars Game #9390290241: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 20:20:09 (ET)
Table 'Lacadiera IV' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: pochen ($225.10 in chips)
Seat 2: kev1987 ($36.80 in chips)
Seat 3: FGators26 ($219 in chips)
Seat 4: pimpsta007 ($86.90 in chips)
Seat 5: SilverTarga ($376.20 in chips)
Seat 6: MidnightTokr ($682.75 in chips)
SilverTarga: posts small blind $1
MidnightTokr: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Kh Th]
pochen: calls $2
kev1987: folds
FGators26: raises $8 to $10
pimpsta007: folds
SilverTarga: folds
MidnightTokr: folds
pochen: calls $8
*** FLOP *** [Ks 6c 2s]
pochen: checks
FGators26: bets $16
pochen: calls $16
*** TURN *** [Ks 6c 2s] [Qd]
pochen: checks
FGators26: checks
*** RIVER *** [Ks 6c 2s Qd] [6d]
pochen: bets $39.10
FGators26: calls $39.10
*** SHOW DOWN ***
pochen: shows [Ad Ac] (two pair, Aces and Sixes)
FGators26: mucks hand
pochen collected $130.20 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $133.20 | Rake $3
Board [Ks 6c 2s Qd 6d]
Seat 1: pochen showed [Ad Ac] and won ($130.20) with two pair, Aces and Sixes
Seat 2: kev1987 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: FGators26 mucked [Kh Th]
Seat 4: pimpsta007 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: SilverTarga (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: MidnightTokr (big blind) folded before Flop
PokerStars Game #9390417187: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 20:27:57 (ET)
Table 'Aglaja V' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: stoner100 ($239.30 in chips)
Seat 2: Leatherass9 ($197.95 in chips)
Seat 3: FGators26 ($288.45 in chips)
Seat 4: redgrape ($200 in chips)
Seat 5: platopat ($90.40 in chips)
Seat 6: NjCriminal ($289.65 in chips)
NjCriminal: posts small blind $1
stoner100: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Qc Ad]
Leatherass9: folds
FGators26: raises $6 to $8
redgrape: folds
platopat: calls $8
NjCriminal: folds
stoner100: calls $6
*** FLOP *** [6h Qs 5s]
stoner100: checks
FGators26: bets $18
platopat: calls $18
stoner100: folds
*** TURN *** [6h Qs 5s] [Kc]
FGators26: bets $44
platopat: raises $20.40 to $64.40 and is all-in
FGators26: calls $20.40
*** RIVER *** [6h Qs 5s Kc] [2h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FGators26: shows [Qc Ad] (a pair of Queens)
platopat: shows [Ks 7s] (a pair of Kings)
platopat collected $186.80 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $189.80 | Rake $3
Board [6h Qs 5s Kc 2h]
Seat 1: stoner100 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: Leatherass9 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: FGators26 showed [Qc Ad] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 4: redgrape folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: platopat (button) showed [Ks 7s] and won ($186.80) with a pair of Kings
Seat 6: NjCriminal (small blind) folded before Flop
PokerStars Game #9390723122: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 20:46:45 (ET)
Table 'Winifred II' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: FGators26 ($451.75 in chips)
Seat 3: sawil ($196.80 in chips)
FGators26: posts small blind $1
sawil: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [As Ad]
FGators26: raises $6 to $8
sawil: calls $6
*** FLOP *** [5h 8d 3h]
sawil: bets $8
FGators26: raises $28 to $36
sawil: raises $152.80 to $188.80 and is all-in
FGators26: calls $152.80
*** TURN *** [5h 8d 3h] [7h]
*** RIVER *** [5h 8d 3h 7h] [Qs]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
sawil: shows [Ah Qh] (a flush, Ace high)
FGators26: mucks hand
sawil collected $392.60 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $393.60 | Rake $1
Board [5h 8d 3h 7h Qs]
Seat 1: FGators26 (button) (small blind) mucked [As Ad]
Seat 3: sawil (big blind) showed [Ah Qh] and won ($392.60) with a flush, Ace high
okerStars Game #9390760690: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 20:49:05 (ET)
Table 'Kopal II' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: FGators26 ($272.60 in chips)
Seat 2: FrinkX ($203 in chips)
Seat 3: aaron26e ($84.80 in chips)
Seat 4: umpa21 ($200 in chips)
Seat 5: orlov ($394.15 in chips)
Seat 6: Junbo ($61.95 in chips)
Junbo: posts small blind $1
FGators26: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Js Jh]
FrinkX: folds
aaron26e: folds
umpa21: folds
orlov: folds
Junbo: raises $4 to $6
FGators26: raises $16 to $22
Junbo: raises $39.95 to $61.95 and is all-in
FGators26: calls $39.95
*** FLOP *** [8s 4c 6d]
*** TURN *** [8s 4c 6d] [Kc]
*** RIVER *** [8s 4c 6d Kc] [3c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Junbo: shows [Qs Kd] (a pair of Kings)
FGators26: mucks hand
Junbo collected $120.90 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $123.90 | Rake $3
Board [8s 4c 6d Kc 3c]
Seat 1: FGators26 (big blind) mucked [Js Jh]
Seat 2: FrinkX folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: aaron26e folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: umpa21 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: orlov (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Junbo (small blind) showed [Qs Kd] and won ($120.90) with a pair of Kings
PokerStars Game #9390789002: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 20:50:51 (ET)
Table 'Hekate V' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: FGators26 ($648.70 in chips)
Seat 2: greenballx ($52.30 in chips)
Seat 3: signon ($159 in chips)
Seat 4: cariadon ($202 in chips)
Seat 5: nevada_nl ($163.55 in chips)
cariadon: posts small blind $1
nevada_nl: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Ah Kh]
FGators26: raises $6 to $8
ols05 joins the table at seat #6
greenballx: calls $8
signon: folds
cariadon: folds
nevada_nl: folds
*** FLOP *** [Kc Js Td]
FGators26: bets $14
greenballx: calls $14
*** TURN *** [Kc Js Td] [5h]
FGators26: bets $406
greenballx: calls $30.30 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [Kc Js Td 5h] [6h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FGators26: shows [Ah Kh] (a pair of Kings)
greenballx: shows [As Qs] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
greenballx collected $105.60 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $107.60 | Rake $2
Board [Kc Js Td 5h 6h]
Seat 1: FGators26 showed [Ah Kh] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 2: greenballx showed [As Qs] and won ($105.60) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 3: signon (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: cariadon (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: nevada_nl (big blind) folded before Flop
PokerStars Game #9390947145: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 21:00:44 (ET)
Table 'Winifred II' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: FGators26 ($269.75 in chips)
Seat 2: CarntR ($113.30 in chips)
Seat 3: sawil ($378.95 in chips)
Seat 6: playl3oy ($63.30 in chips)
playl3oy: posts small blind $1
FGators26: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Jd Js]
CarntR: folds
sawil: folds
playl3oy: raises $2 to $4
FGators26: raises $14 to $18
playl3oy: raises $45.30 to $63.30 and is all-in
FGators26: calls $45.30
*** FLOP *** [3h 7s 3c]
*** TURN *** [3h 7s 3c] [Ts]
*** RIVER *** [3h 7s 3c Ts] [Ah]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
playl3oy: shows [As Kh] (two pair, Aces and Threes)
FGators26: mucks hand
playl3oy collected $124.60 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $126.60 | Rake $2
Board [3h 7s 3c Ts Ah]
Seat 1: FGators26 (big blind) mucked [Jd Js]
Seat 2: CarntR folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: sawil (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: playl3oy (small blind) showed [As Kh] and won ($124.60) with two pair, Aces and Threes
PokerStars Game #9391083868: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 21:09:10 (ET)
Table 'Strenua II' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: wearingred ($200.95 in chips)
Seat 2: sampy345 ($238.25 in chips)
Seat 3: tiagoferreir ($198.45 in chips)
Seat 4: FGators26 ($442.60 in chips)
Seat 5: umpa21 ($200 in chips)
Seat 6: rolonrolon ($404.95 in chips)
umpa21: posts small blind $1
rolonrolon: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Ad Ac]
wearingred: folds
sampy345: folds
tiagoferreir: calls $2
FGators26: raises $8 to $10
umpa21: raises $190 to $200 and is all-in
rolonrolon: folds
tiagoferreir: folds
FGators26: calls $190
*** FLOP *** [8c Jd 7s]
rolonrolon said, "good fold Ricky"
*** TURN *** [8c Jd 7s] [Kd]
*** RIVER *** [8c Jd 7s Kd] [2s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
umpa21: shows [Ks Kc] (three of a kind, Kings)
FGators26: mucks hand
umpa21 collected $401 from pot
tiagoferreir said, "OMFG"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $404 | Rake $3
Board [8c Jd 7s Kd 2s]
Seat 1: wearingred folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: sampy345 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: tiagoferreir folded before Flop
Seat 4: FGators26 (button) mucked [Ad Ac]
Seat 5: umpa21 (small blind) showed [Ks Kc] and won ($401) with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 6: rolonrolon (big blind) folded before Flop
PokerStars Game #9391296265: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 21:22:05 (ET)
Table 'Phaedra III' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: tofirstorder ($313.80 in chips)
Seat 3: vucyh25 ($44.40 in chips)
Seat 5: FGators26 ($320.05 in chips)
Seat 6: primemutton ($274.30 in chips)
tofirstorder: posts small blind $1
vucyh25: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Qc Qs]
FGators26: raises $6 to $8
primemutton: calls $8
tofirstorder: folds
vucyh25: raises $36.40 to $44.40 and is all-in
FGators26: calls $36.40
primemutton: folds
*** FLOP *** [Th 9s 6h]
*** TURN *** [Th 9s 6h] [7h]
*** RIVER *** [Th 9s 6h 7h] [Tc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
vucyh25: shows [3h Ah] (a flush, Ace high)
FGators26: mucks hand
vucyh25 collected $95.80 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $97.80 | Rake $2
Board [Th 9s 6h 7h Tc]
Seat 2: tofirstorder (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: vucyh25 (big blind) showed [3h Ah] and won ($95.80) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 5: FGators26 mucked [Qc Qs]
Seat 6: primemutton (button) folded before Flop
PokerStars Game #9391335505: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 21:24:27 (ET)
Table 'Winifred II' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: FGators26 ($189.80 in chips)
Seat 2: Alieth ($194.95 in chips)
Seat 3: sawil ($410.60 in chips)
Seat 4: BHold ($323.30 in chips)
Seat 5: gspot355 ($200 in chips)
Seat 6: dhmoney ($43.45 in chips)
Alieth: posts small blind $1
sawil: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Ts Ad]
BHold: folds
gspot355: folds
dhmoney: folds
FGators26: raises $6 to $8
Alieth: calls $7
sawil: calls $6
*** FLOP *** [8s 6h 8c]
Alieth: checks
sawil: checks
FGators26: checks
*** TURN *** [8s 6h 8c] [Td]
Alieth: bets $20
sawil: folds
FGators26: calls $20
*** RIVER *** [8s 6h 8c Td] [Jd]
Alieth: bets $30
FGators26: calls $30
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Alieth: shows [8d 9d] (three of a kind, Eights)
FGators26: mucks hand
Alieth collected $121 from pot
PokerStars Game #9391464022: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 21:32:10 (ET)
Table 'Portlandia II' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: royalsu ($175.20 in chips)
Seat 2: bberard34 ($216.85 in chips)
Seat 3: mobster80 ($407.55 in chips)
Seat 4: CapnK60 ($241.60 in chips)
Seat 5: KGMONTE ($258 in chips)
Seat 6: FGators26 ($286.85 in chips)
KGMONTE: posts small blind $1
FGators26: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Kh Ac]
CapnK60 said, "nh"
royalsu: folds
CapnK60 said, "little loose call huh???"
bberard34: raises $6 to $8
mobster80: folds
CapnK60: folds
KGMONTE: folds
FGators26: raises $18 to $26
bberard34: calls $18
*** FLOP *** [4s 9h 2s]
FGators26: checks
bberard34: checks
*** TURN *** [4s 9h 2s] [Jh]
FGators26: checks
bberard34: bets $32
FGators26: calls $32
*** RIVER *** [4s 9h 2s Jh] [Qh]
FGators26: checks
bberard34: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FGators26: shows [Kh Ac] (high card Ace)
bberard34: shows [Qs Kd] (a pair of Queens)
bberard34 collected $114 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
PokerStars Game #9391830024: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 21:54:14 (ET)
Table 'Oceana V' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: tofirstorder ($205 in chips)
Seat 2: FGators26 ($418.50 in chips)
Seat 3: MintMoney ($15.50 in chips)
Seat 4: DareYou2Call ($115.45 in chips)
Seat 5: NC 45 ($48 in chips)
Seat 6: tjsahota123 ($225.85 in chips)
MintMoney: posts small blind $1
DareYou2Call: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Ah Jh]
NC 45: calls $2
tjsahota123: raises $6 to $8
tofirstorder: calls $8
FGators26: calls $8
MintMoney: folds
DareYou2Call: folds
NC 45: folds
*** FLOP *** [7s Ac 4c]
MintMoney leaves the table
tjsahota123: checks
tofirstorder: checks
FGators26: bets $22
tjsahota123: calls $22
tofirstorder: folds
*** TURN *** [7s Ac 4c] [2c]
tjsahota123: checks
FGators26: checks
*** RIVER *** [7s Ac 4c 2c] [Js]
tjsahota123: bets $55
Luran joins the table at seat #3
FGators26: calls $55
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tjsahota123: shows [As Ad] (three of a kind, Aces)
FGators26: mucks hand
tjsahota123 collected $180 from pot
SkeetyMcdoogle
04-12-2007, 10:05 PM
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stake FGators for 12 minutes at 200NL
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I've consistently won at 200 NL since the huge downswing; maybe some day I'll get some respect as one of the better regs at this limit.
[/ QUOTE ]
lolol gotchu
FGators
04-12-2007, 10:08 PM
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stake FGators for 12 minutes at 200NL
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I've consistently won at 200 NL since the huge downswing; maybe some day I'll get some respect as one of the better regs at this limit.
[/ QUOTE ]
lolol gotchu
[/ QUOTE ]
I calculate winning with getting my hand good over a large sample size.
Thuey11
04-12-2007, 10:12 PM
wowowow u play bad gator
ImsaKidd
04-12-2007, 10:14 PM
Im offended I didnt badbeat you today.
BowToYourSensei
04-12-2007, 10:16 PM
lol...you're so terrible...
FGators
04-12-2007, 10:18 PM
These comments aren't even funny or clever, you guys can do better. I'm a bad poker player because I get it in good almost all the time...riiiighttt..
ikestoys
04-12-2007, 10:19 PM
tl;dr all
you aren't very good
BowToYourSensei
04-12-2007, 10:21 PM
i read the first 5 hands and in none of em did you get your money in good save for 4 or 5 dollars preflop in 2 of em
[ QUOTE ]
These comments aren't even funny or clever, you guys can do better. I'm a bad poker player because I get it in good almost all the time...riiiighttt..
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dude... check out your first 10 hands
FGators
04-12-2007, 10:25 PM
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i read the first 5 hands and in none of em did you get your money in good save for 4 or 5 dollars preflop in 2 of em
[/ QUOTE ]
I'm just giving raw versions of all pots I lose that are either medium or large. People take cheap shots at me constantly here about being awful so here it is. This is how I play. Should I be playing these differently? I'm not so sure. I guess I should just muck pocket tens on the button when Im raised by an aggressive blind.
P.S.: the crabclaws hand is bad but hes aggressive as hell and I thought I would try slowplaying for once.
FGators
04-12-2007, 10:25 PM
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These comments aren't even funny or clever, you guys can do better. I'm a bad poker player because I get it in good almost all the time...riiiighttt..
[/ QUOTE ]
dude... check out your first 10 hands
[/ QUOTE ]
Yeah...minus the crabclaws hand with the given stacks how can they be avoided.
Spechel EDD
04-12-2007, 10:26 PM
why did you fold a TT to a dealers QA7 bust
Teh1337zor
04-12-2007, 10:28 PM
lol at pushing 1010 preflop
bigt2k4
04-12-2007, 10:29 PM
I thought this was gonna be about the Office, with Andy's return and all. Haven't seen it yet, was watching the Blue Jays. Will see it on timeshifting.
FGators
04-12-2007, 10:30 PM
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lol at pushing 1010 preflop
[/ QUOTE ]
I know we hate strategy but what am I supposed to do with this hand. we've been getting in raising wars today and in the past. I have no plan for blank flops and I hate putting basically half my stack in by calling the raise and calling the flop bet when he bets because hes always firing the flop after he 3bets.
cassette
04-12-2007, 10:30 PM
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If you email Stars will they allow you to play more than 12 tables? Anybody ever do that?
[/ QUOTE ]
LOL GATORS.
YOU HAVEN'T CONSCIOUSLY FORCED YOURSELF TO """IMPROVE""" YOUR GAME FOR THE PAST 6 MONTHS THAT YOU HAVE BEEN WHINING ABOUT YOUR BAD LUCK.
YOU PLAY BAD AND RUN BAD.
EVERYTIME SOMEONE CRITIQUES YOUR BAD PLAY YOU FIND SOME EXCUSE TO BACK IT UP.
NO WONDER YOU DON'T IMPROVE.
FGators
04-12-2007, 10:35 PM
If I didnt' run so bad I would have won over a half million dollars by now; I can't stop thinking about that.
NoahSD
04-12-2007, 10:36 PM
Brag: Seat 6: nsd4eva (big blind) showed [Ac As] and won ($398) with two pair, Aces and Threes
Beat:
POKERSTARS GAME #9386147252: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 16:00:54 (ET)
Table 'Mensa IV' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: FGators26 ($203 in chips)
Seat 2: nsd4eva ($309.50 in chips)
Seat 3: bullyboh ($208 in chips)
Seat 6: Shanyu ($442.80 in chips)
FGators26: posts small blind $1
nsd4eva: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nsd4eva [Kc 3c]
bullyboh: folds
Shanyu: folds
WGPower joins the table at seat #4
FGators26: raises $6 to $8
nsd4eva: calls $6
*** FLOP *** [Qd 6h 8h]
FGators26: bets $12
nsd4eva: calls $12
*** TURN *** [Qd 6h 8h] [6c]
FGators26: checks
nsd4eva: bets $24
FGators26: calls $24
*** RIVER *** [Qd 6h 8h 6c] [4c]
FGators26: checks
nsd4eva: bets $80
FGators26: calls $80
*** SHOW DOWN ***
nsd4eva: shows [Kc 3c] (a pair of Sixes)
FGators26: shows [Kd Qs] (two pair, Queens and Sixes)
FGators26 collected $246 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $248 | Rake $2
Board [Qd 6h 8h 6c 4c]
Seat 1: FGators26 (small blind) showed [Kd Qs] and won ($246) with two pair, Queens and Sixes
Seat 2: nsd4eva (big blind) showed [Kc 3c] and lost with a pair of Sixes
Seat 3: bullyboh folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Shanyu (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
(Whoa.. my turn bet was way too small. I didn't even realize I'd [censored] that up til I looked up the HH. And obv that river bet is suicide against Mr. Gators.)
Variance: He's way better then he used to be now, but he still is really bad at playing poker and hasn't figured out a few really basic concept.
craigthedeac
04-12-2007, 10:39 PM
That hand is not bad, lol
[ QUOTE ]
If I didnt' run so bad I would have won over a half million dollars by now; I can't stop thinking about that.
[/ QUOTE ]
That's why you will always be stuck where you are.
Because you keep thinking about things that don't matter and completely ignore things that do, I.E IMPROVING YOUR GAME.
Makes no difference to the people here.
Every 200 NLer on 2+2 hopes you keep whining about how bad you run so while they are improving their game, you are busy crying like a baby.
christ ur awful. please keep playing poker
FGators
04-12-2007, 10:43 PM
Noah,
I didn't just call to "call". I know you are capable of floating and really couldn't put you on a hand that you were repping. Maybe floating with 67 or 57 but I just didn't think so.
NoahSD
04-12-2007, 10:46 PM
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Noah,
I didn't just call to "call". I know you are capable of floating and really couldn't put you on a hand that you were repping. Maybe floating with 67 or 57 but I just didn't think so.
[/ QUOTE ]
I didn't even say your call was bad, I said my river bet was bad.
HiBaCHi
04-12-2007, 10:54 PM
fgators you play good sir. keep truckin, once you run even halfway clean you'll be on your way to your millions. don't let any trolls on here get you down.
PokerGolfFiend
04-12-2007, 10:56 PM
one of these threads again.
Eskaborr
04-12-2007, 10:57 PM
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If I didnt' run so bad I would have won over a half million dollars by now; I can't stop thinking about that.
[/ QUOTE ]
OMG LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
PLEASE WAKE UP.
FGators
04-12-2007, 11:01 PM
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Noah,
I didn't just call to "call". I know you are capable of floating and really couldn't put you on a hand that you were repping. Maybe floating with 67 or 57 but I just didn't think so.
[/ QUOTE ]
I didn't even say your call was bad, I said my river bet was bad.
[/ QUOTE ]
What did your Mr. Gators comment mean then? That I'm not capable of folding top pair?
Eskaborr
04-12-2007, 11:03 PM
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Noah,
I didn't just call to "call". I know you are capable of floating and really couldn't put you on a hand that you were repping. Maybe floating with 67 or 57 but I just didn't think so.
[/ QUOTE ]
I didn't even say your call was bad, I said my river bet was bad.
[/ QUOTE ]
What did your Mr. Gators comment mean then? That I'm not capable of folding top pair?
[/ QUOTE ]
hu please please please please please
JonnyCosMo
04-12-2007, 11:09 PM
Hehe while reading these hand histories it reminded me of the time I watched the Jackass movie, where they constantly just hurt themselves for no reason. lol...
JonnyCosMo
04-12-2007, 11:12 PM
Oh wait, my friend wanted me to say this: "Oh dont worry, when you run better things are going to be crazy for you! Your going to win mad moneys and stack mad bitches yo~! Just keep playing!"
NoahSD
04-12-2007, 11:16 PM
Whatever, I wasn't making fun of you I was just saying that's a bad spot to bluff against you.
I probably shouldn't say a ton about how I think I should be playing against you because I'm gonna be billion tabling NL200 for a while now and it looks like you're gonna be doing that too.
Eskaborr
04-12-2007, 11:23 PM
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Whatever, I wasn't making fun of you I was just saying that's a bad spot to bluff against you.
I probably shouldn't say a ton about how I think I should be playing against you because I'm gonna be billion tabling NL200 for a while now and it looks like you're gonna be doing that too.
[/ QUOTE ]
He needs all the help he can get.
futuredoc85
04-12-2007, 11:32 PM
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i read the first 5 hands and in none of em did you get your money in good save for 4 or 5 dollars preflop in 2 of em
[/ QUOTE ]
I'm just giving raw versions of all pots I lose that are either medium or large. People take cheap shots at me constantly here about being awful so here it is. This is how I play. Should I be playing these differently? I'm not so sure. I guess I should just muck pocket tens on the button when Im raised by an aggressive blind.
[/ QUOTE ]
there is a little known button in between "fold" and "raise" that no one talks about but lots of people use in spots like that.
adanthar
04-12-2007, 11:37 PM
I reviewed these hands and give you a 4 on a scale of 1 to 10
unfortunately, the scale is based on 'average NL 200 player'
catcher193
04-12-2007, 11:49 PM
lol @ all the hate, FGators knows how to play poker, and is a decent player, but just not THAT good.
probably somewhere in the 50th percentile of 2P2ers, and a very small winner in the Stars NL $200 game.
My only advice is to not take shots at the MSNL game until you get much better, but your probably better than half this board.
EVER GONNA MAKE THE GODDAMN VIDEO?
furyshade
04-13-2007, 12:03 AM
FGators, let yourself go, we don't care about you anymore, i know it seems like you are really important to all of us, but we really just do not give a [censored] about how bad you run and insulting you is boring now
Gildwulf
04-13-2007, 12:06 AM
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If I didnt' run so bad I would have won over a half million dollars by now; I can't stop thinking about that.
[/ QUOTE ]
that sounds like a reject 'barenaked ladies' lyric
w_alloy
04-13-2007, 12:08 AM
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lol @ all the hate, FGators knows how to play poker, and is a decent player, but just not THAT good.
probably somewhere in the 50th percentile of 2P2ers, and a very small winner in the Stars NL $200 game.
[/ QUOTE ]
This is true but misleading. He thinks he should have won 500K by now. If you count NL200 as MSNL, out of all internet MSNL/HSNL pros/semipros he is in the bottom 1%. This is the group he is trying to identify with and so this is how we should judge him.
I read the 15 hands and had enough. Do u actually think this is 'running bad' ? You should post this in the beginner's forum as how to be a lazy mediocre player for life
bruin
04-13-2007, 12:29 AM
fgators isn't that bad but he definitely isn't good (as a poker player).
in life though, he's utterly pathetic.
Alexisonfyre
04-13-2007, 12:37 AM
FGators you aren't really good. You should move down in stakes before you lose everything.
SlapPappy
04-13-2007, 12:42 AM
this thread is useless without a video
Get a new office.
<font color="white">Lori </font>
WutRUTryin2Hit
04-13-2007, 01:55 AM
I have heard about fgators in some other threads so I read the first bunch of hands and I thought it was a joke post. But I do like that you declare your bets in the chatbox first, that's a nice touch.
*** TURN *** [8d 6h Th] [3h]
MidnightTokr: checks
FGators26 said, "45"
FGators26: bets $45
FGators
04-13-2007, 02:42 AM
If I need all the help I can get I'm confused on why I always have the best hand or get coolered in sngicicanft pots. Kind o intesting to me. Its like BBV is a frat and needs to keep me out...pethicc.
furyshade
04-13-2007, 02:45 AM
[ QUOTE ]
If I need all the help I can get I'm confused on why I always have the best hand or get coolered in sngicicanft pots. Kind o intesting to me. Its like BBV is a frat and needs to keep me out...pethicc.
[/ QUOTE ]
its more like BBV is a village, and you are the leper no one wants to look at, talk to, or go near
deaders
04-13-2007, 02:51 AM
I read the first 10 hands and they were [censored] awful, stop calling it 'running bad' and admit to 'playing bad'. You wouldnt win at 50nl playing like that, and I dont think thats even a stretch.
farmslicer7
04-13-2007, 03:15 AM
about time to call the WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAbumlance
SkeetyMcdoogle
04-13-2007, 03:18 AM
Is hand 1 just a failed cbet? Are you honestly whining about that?
Is hand 2 a case of higher pocket pair vs lower pocket pair? Honestly?
Escape
04-13-2007, 03:35 AM
Fgators may I refer you to wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locus_of_control
I believe you fall into the "external" group.
Spechel EDD
04-13-2007, 03:39 AM
hey fgators youre playing very well dont listen to the haters, they just dont want you to play well like this and win money off of them
holyfield5
04-13-2007, 03:47 AM
FGators is horrible lets not kid ourselves, i do love how he post these atrocities then sits here trying to defend every neg post.
look man, i know NL hold them awards bold and aggressive play but there is a concept you need to read up on "pot control" i think it will help you a lot.
also look into "calling for set value"
ship me 10% of your winnings due to this advice
Panthro
04-13-2007, 03:49 AM
video or ban?
holyfield5
04-13-2007, 04:05 AM
WAIT, ive found FGATORS game, and think i may have figured out the problem!
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r249/holyfield5/collander.jpg
Eagles
04-13-2007, 04:13 AM
Fgators,
You aren't terrible you're probably a break even/ marginal winner at 200nl but you definetely have leaks. You never seem to listen to anyone's advice but I would recommend finding a few players who are better than you asking them about hands and listening to their advice it will help a ton.
Squareview
04-13-2007, 04:35 AM
you cant fold, and almost always shove bad... honestly your a joke
Hrkac
04-13-2007, 04:37 AM
[ QUOTE ]
EVER GONNA MAKE THE GODDAMN VIDEO?
[/ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
this thread is useless without a video
[/ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
video or ban?
[/ QUOTE ]
roo400
04-13-2007, 05:15 AM
read about 10 hands and man, you need lessons...
tannenj
04-13-2007, 05:34 AM
i stopped reading after the second hand.
blah blah blah you run bad ... that play is just putrid.
Eskaborr
04-13-2007, 05:34 AM
[ QUOTE ]
If I need all the help I can get I'm confused on why I always have the best hand or get coolered in sngicicanft pots. Kind o intesting to me. Its like BBV is a frat and needs to keep me out...pethicc.
[/ QUOTE ]
I play with you everyday.. you suck.
Riina
04-13-2007, 05:59 AM
okay there is obviously some bandwagon behaviour involved in this thread. After reading through the responses first, i was thinking wow how bad must these hh's be.
In my judgement, there are several hhs i think definitely could be played a lot better. The TT obviously is gross. But that said, i think i agree with the assesment that op probably is a small winner at this limit, a mediocre player that nonetheless could use a lot of improvement. However, he isn't the total fish a lot of people make him out to be. I've seen a lot lot worse, and see a lot lot worse everyday
edit: tips to op. Learn to CBet better on the right textures and from the right position, try to improve on potcontrol with far-from-thenuts-hands
AJFenix
04-13-2007, 06:09 AM
One time I was bored and sat to FGators left at his downiestakes with the intention of reraising him every time he raised, maybe just shoving a few times or calling and shoving flops etc, but he brilliantly countered my plan by not playing a hand for 4 orbits, so I left feeling pretty outplayed. Keep at it FGators, it'll break even eventually.
gimmetheloot
04-13-2007, 06:17 AM
ummm....lolol
okerStars Game #9389148974: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 19:09:29 (ET)
Table 'Dubiago' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: yankdog ($246 in chips)
Seat 2: DF_Newb ($200 in chips)
Seat 3: luremusa ($232 in chips)
Seat 4: FGators26 ($269.25 in chips)
Seat 5: cariadon ($210 in chips)
Seat 6: forbzy1 ($96 in chips)
DF_Newb: posts small blind $1
luremusa: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Qc Qs]
FGators26: raises $6 to $8
cariadon: folds
forbzy1: raises $12 to $20
yankdog: folds
DF_Newb: folds
luremusa: calls $18
FGators26: raises $80 to $100
forbzy1: folds
luremusa: calls $80
*** FLOP *** [4s Kh 8d]
luremusa: bets $2
FGators26: calls $2
*** TURN *** [4s Kh 8d] [5d]
luremusa: bets $40
FGators26: folds
luremusa collected $222 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $225 | Rake $3
Board [4s Kh 8d 5d]
Seat 1: yankdog (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: DF_Newb (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: luremusa (big blind) collected ($222)
Seat 4: FGators26 folded on the Turn
Seat 5: cariadon folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: forbzy1 folded before Flop
Autocratic
04-13-2007, 06:53 AM
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ummm....lolol
okerStars Game #9389148974: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 19:09:29 (ET)
Table 'Dubiago' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: yankdog ($246 in chips)
Seat 2: DF_Newb ($200 in chips)
Seat 3: luremusa ($232 in chips)
Seat 4: FGators26 ($269.25 in chips)
Seat 5: cariadon ($210 in chips)
Seat 6: forbzy1 ($96 in chips)
DF_Newb: posts small blind $1
luremusa: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Qc Qs]
FGators26: raises $6 to $8
cariadon: folds
forbzy1: raises $12 to $20
yankdog: folds
DF_Newb: folds
luremusa: calls $18
FGators26: raises $80 to $100
forbzy1: folds
luremusa: calls $80
*** FLOP *** [4s Kh 8d]
luremusa: bets $2
FGators26: calls $2
*** TURN *** [4s Kh 8d] [5d]
luremusa: bets $40
FGators26: folds
luremusa collected $222 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $225 | Rake $3
Board [4s Kh 8d 5d]
Seat 1: yankdog (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: DF_Newb (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: luremusa (big blind) collected ($222)
Seat 4: FGators26 folded on the Turn
Seat 5: cariadon folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: forbzy1 folded before Flop
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This hand is awful. And I play 25NL.
jlzinck
04-13-2007, 08:41 AM
Wow. I'm an average player and I can tell you suck
New2NL
04-13-2007, 08:45 AM
FGATORS - You are not the king of coolers. You play bad. The TT vs. AA hand. Keep jaming 200$ Pre with at best 50-50 odds.
New2NL
04-13-2007, 08:51 AM
Why the hell do you always get your money in when your drawing dead.
Those can't be all the pots you played over $100 bc you had a few deeper stacks (one was 650 I think). Stop filtering through all the hands you lost and posting them. I don't know how many hands a day you play but when you play as many as you do anyone can find a dozen or so "bad beats."
Obviously some of them were bad plays not bad beats, but posting all these hands proves nothing about how bad/good you are running.
Post the two hands from the day before (Wed April 11) where you had your KK beat my AA (I think one was a 180BB pot and the other was 260BB?). You don't run that bad...
pokerstudAA
04-13-2007, 09:23 AM
Seriously dude,
Everyone is not saying you play bad because you are getting your money in good everytime. Every bad player out there deludes themselves with this type of "poker is rigged" / "my luck is so bad" thinking. You might want to listen, learn, and improve instead of blaming it on bad luck, trying to justify your bad playing, and complaining.
New2NL
04-13-2007, 09:51 AM
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Seriously dude,
Everyone is not saying you play bad because you are getting your money in good everytime. Every bad player out there deludes themselves with this type of "poker is rigged" / "my luck is so bad" thinking. You might want to listen, learn, and improve instead of blaming it on bad luck, trying to justify your bad playing, and complaining.
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What they hell, I looked at only like the first 10 hands, name a place where he got his money in good? or as a favorite.
pokerstudAA
04-13-2007, 09:53 AM
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What they hell, I looked at only like the first 10 hands, name a place where he got his money in good? or as a favorite.
[/ QUOTE ]
DO YOU SPEAKER ANY ENGRISH?
[edit for long sentences impaired: the hands were terrible. he wasnt getting his money in good. people are telling him he is bad and he played bad.]
tibrida
04-13-2007, 10:10 AM
PLAY BAD RUN BAD = ROBUSTOOOOOOOOOOOOOO???!?!??!
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FGATORS - You are not the king of coolers. You play bad. The TT vs. AA hand. Keep jaming 200$ Pre with at best 50-50 odds.
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be quiet idiot.
Video or Ban
04-13-2007, 11:11 AM
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video or ban?
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Sure, I'll post the video. After I post a winning session! Hyachahcahcha (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=9094425&page=0&fpart=all &vc=1)
fish leader
04-13-2007, 11:27 AM
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christ ur awful. please keep playing poker
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QFMFT! You know if HIV is saying this ish then its the mudfuggin truf
Jehaim
04-13-2007, 11:53 AM
Please PM Phil153 for his awesome software and run it over your database.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...art=17&vc=1 (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=9774803&page=0&fpart=17& vc=1)
FGators
04-13-2007, 12:04 PM
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Those can't be all the pots you played over $100 bc you had a few deeper stacks (one was 650 I think). Stop filtering through all the hands you lost and posting them. I don't know how many hands a day you play but when you play as many as you do anyone can find a dozen or so "bad beats."
Obviously some of them were bad plays not bad beats, but posting all these hands proves nothing about how bad/good you are running.
Post the two hands from the day before (Wed April 11) where you had your KK beat my AA (I think one was a 180BB pot and the other was 260BB?). You don't run that bad...
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these are the $100+ hands I lost yesterday
PITTM
04-13-2007, 12:06 PM
guys. dont try to give advice, hes a winning player. if he didnt run so bad we would all agree hes the next johnny chan.
NoahSD
04-13-2007, 12:39 PM
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guys. dont try to give advice, hes a winning player. if he didnt run so bad we would all agree hes the next TJ Cloutier.
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holdme
04-13-2007, 12:49 PM
OMG ITS FGATORS HE PLAYS LIKE [censored] LETS TALK ABOUT HIM
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Those can't be all the pots you played over $100 bc you had a few deeper stacks (one was 650 I think). Stop filtering through all the hands you lost and posting them. I don't know how many hands a day you play but when you play as many as you do anyone can find a dozen or so "bad beats."
Obviously some of them were bad plays not bad beats, but posting all these hands proves nothing about how bad/good you are running.
Post the two hands from the day before (Wed April 11) where you had your KK beat my AA (I think one was a 180BB pot and the other was 260BB?). You don't run that bad...
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these are the $100+ hands I lost yesterday
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Now do the ones you won...
Just doing the ones you lost proves nothing about how bad/good you are running.
[Phill]
04-13-2007, 12:56 PM
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Get a new office.
<font color="white">Lori </font>
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Have you ever made a bad post Lori?
adanthar
04-13-2007, 12:57 PM
I woke up and looked at these hands again...
..it's like you purposefully devise ways to get 1/3 of your stack in bad so you can make the 'tough' fold or 'pot odds' call with multiple overcards on board or drawing dead
Orlando Salazar
04-13-2007, 01:34 PM
wow, u play really poorly.
AJackson
04-13-2007, 01:44 PM
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These comments aren't even funny or clever, you guys can do better. I'm a bad poker player because I get it in good almost all the time...riiiighttt..
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No one is going to read all those hands and probably read the first ten like I did. Those first ten were awful. Who three bet shoves pf with TT? You're only insuring you get called by a better hand and push out worst hands.
Triumph36
04-13-2007, 01:45 PM
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wow, u play really poorly.
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oh man when SALAZARRRRR is hating.
fgators quit poker and from your general tone, quit life as well. people hate whiners except when their anonymous pain is funny, like in bbv.
btw a lot of these hands were played poorly
New2NL
04-13-2007, 02:11 PM
Well I just don't get how Fgators can have 4K plus posts on a poker forum and still play 100$ NL like it's play money.
NoahSD
04-13-2007, 02:18 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Well I just don't get how Fgators can have 4K plus posts on a poker forum and still play 100$ NL like it's play money.
[/ QUOTE ]
Well.. two points:
1) He's not that bad.
2) Tons and tons and tons of 2p2ers are really really bad at poker.
DING-DONG YO
04-13-2007, 02:19 PM
Wow, are these hands for real? I only looked at the first 5 or so and OMG. Just atrocious.
fgators is like paris hilton without the sex video
MilkMan
04-13-2007, 02:47 PM
you mightn't think it now, but fgators used to be a real funny guy. man i remember how he cracked everyone up with his two pencils up the nose routine during handreading 101 lectures, boy those were good times.
catcher193
04-13-2007, 03:02 PM
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lol @ all the hate, FGators knows how to play poker, and is a decent player, but just not THAT good.
probably somewhere in the 50th percentile of 2P2ers, and a very small winner in the Stars NL $200 game.
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This is true but misleading. He thinks he should have won 500K by now. If you count NL200 as MSNL, out of all internet MSNL/HSNL pros/semipros he is in the bottom 1%. This is the group he is trying to identify with and so this is how we should judge him.
[/ QUOTE ]
First, I consider NL $200 SSNL, and he is probably a winner in SSNL. I would also guess FGators is probably bottom 15% in the MSNL community, but:
[ QUOTE ]
Fgators,
You aren't terrible you're probably a break even/ marginal winner at 200nl but you definetely have leaks. You never seem to listen to anyone's advice but I would recommend finding a few players who are better than you asking them about hands and listening to their advice it will help a ton.
[/ QUOTE ]
this is spot on.
chiznadAZ
04-13-2007, 03:07 PM
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EVER GONNA MAKE THE GODDAMN VIDEO?
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this thread is useless without a video
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video or ban?
[/ QUOTE ]
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Eagles
04-13-2007, 03:18 PM
I feel sort of weird defending FGators but he's better at poker than than most of the people who are telling him he sucks.
WiiiiiiMan
04-13-2007, 03:20 PM
please make a video fgators!
DING-DONG YO
04-13-2007, 03:34 PM
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I feel sort of weird defending FGators but he's better at poker than than most of the people who are telling him he sucks.
[/ QUOTE ]
I'm very much a NL newb, but he has got serious serious issues if those hands are representative of his usual play and not outliers posted for entertainment purposes.
New2NL
04-13-2007, 03:40 PM
[ QUOTE ]
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Well I just don't get how Fgators can have 4K plus posts on a poker forum and still play 100$ NL like it's play money.
[/ QUOTE ]
Well.. two points:
1) He's not that bad.
2) Tons and tons and tons of 2p2ers are really really bad at poker.
[/ QUOTE ]
Are you leveling? did you look at the first 10 hands of this thread
adanthar
04-13-2007, 03:42 PM
[ QUOTE ]
you mightn't think it now, but fgators used to be a real funny guy. man i remember how he cracked everyone up with his two pencils up the nose routine during handreading 101 lectures, boy those were good times.
[/ QUOTE ]
this post will be very underrated by the bbv community, but I'm gonna quote it anyway
[ QUOTE ]
I'd like Nath as one of the guys to carry my coffin. He has been blessed with good hands.
[/ QUOTE ]
This is true, as anyone who has seen me play football can attest.
I've been playing more 6-max cash lately than usual, and I must say that it allows me to recognize much more immediately where and how you misplay hands. In other words, the same things I (and everyone else) have been telling you about the problems in your game for the last six months still apply.
But hey, why learn and change when you can so easily whine and attention-whore here? Right? Right?
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If I didnt' run so bad I would have won over a half million dollars by now; I can't stop thinking about that.
[/ QUOTE ]
that sounds like a reject 'barenaked ladies' lyric
[/ QUOTE ]
I'M LYING IN BED
JUST LIKE F. GATORS DID
WONDERING BOUT THE HALF MILLION
I HAD IN MY HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND
[ QUOTE ]
One time I was bored and sat to FGators left at his downiestakes with the intention of reraising him every time he raised, maybe just shoving a few times or calling and shoving flops etc, but he brilliantly countered my plan by not playing a hand for 4 orbits, so I left feeling pretty outplayed. Keep at it FGators, it'll break even eventually.
[/ QUOTE ]
rofl
[ QUOTE ]
I feel sort of weird defending FGators but he's better at poker than than most of the people who are telling him he sucks.
[/ QUOTE ]
Bandwagon effect. I'd like to point out that no one who is better at poker than him is telling him in sincerity he plays well, a fact he conveniently chooses to ignore.
Gildwulf
04-13-2007, 03:55 PM
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If I didnt' run so bad I would have won over a half million dollars by now; I can't stop thinking about that.
[/ QUOTE ]
that sounds like a reject 'barenaked ladies' lyric
[/ QUOTE ]
I'M LYING IN BED
JUST LIKE F. GATORS DID
WONDERING BOUT THE HALF MILLION
I HAD IN MY HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND
[/ QUOTE ]
I was thinking more like...
BNL 1: -sings- If I had half a million dollars...
BNL 2: -sings- if i had half a million dollars..
BNL 1: -spoken- well I would have, but people keep sucking out on me
BNL 2: -spoken- I hear you're on suicide watch!
BNL 1: -spoken- yea, I spent all night huddled in the corner eating kraft dinner
BNL 2: I LOVE kraft dinner!
etc
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If I didnt' run so bad I would have won over a half million dollars by now; I can't stop thinking about that.
[/ QUOTE ]
that sounds like a reject 'barenaked ladies' lyric
[/ QUOTE ]
I'M LYING IN BED
JUST LIKE F. GATORS DID
WONDERING BOUT THE HALF MILLION
I HAD IN MY HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND
[/ QUOTE ]
I was thinking more like...
BNL 1: -sings- If I had half a million dollars...
BNL 2: -sings- if i had half a million dollars..
BNL 1: -spoken- well I would have, but people keep sucking out on me
BNL 2: -spoken- I hear you're on suicide watch!
BNL 1: -spoken- yea, I spent all night huddled in the corner eating kraft dinner
BNL 2: I LOVE kraft dinner!
etc
[/ QUOTE ]
We'll work on it, have your people call my people
Eagles
04-13-2007, 04:02 PM
I'm feeling generous so I'll comment on all your hands.
[ QUOTE ]
PokerStars Game #9388758286: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 18:44:55 (ET)
Table 'Hekate V' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: FGators26 ($199.70 in chips)
Seat 2: MeowMeowCat ($376.30 in chips)
Seat 3: bettyboo123 ($122.80 in chips)
Seat 4: jakally ($303.90 in chips)
Seat 5: paronoid ($696.90 in chips)
FGators26: posts small blind $1
MeowMeowCat: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Tc Th]
bettyboo123: folds
jakally: raises $6 to $8
paronoid: folds
FGators26: raises $18 to $26
MeowMeowCat: folds
jakally: calls $18
*** FLOP *** [Qd Ad 7c]
FGators26: bets $40
Haloth2 has returned
jakally: raises $237.90 to $277.90 and is all-in
FGators26: folds
jakally collected $132 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $134 | Rake $2
Board [Qd Ad 7c]
Seat 1: FGators26 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: MeowMeowCat (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: bettyboo123 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: jakally collected ($132)
Seat 5: paronoid (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
[/ QUOTE ]
Just c/f the flop. Its a bad bluff(only jj folds). There's no value in betting. Your hand isn't strong enough to protect and if your ahead. villain is probably only drawing to 2 outs.
[ QUOTE ]
okerStars Game #9388987075: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 18:59:25 (ET)
Table 'Honoria III' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Reimertz ($376.95 in chips)
Seat 2: Duffs#1fan ($202 in chips)
Seat 3: Bad Beatz ($230.75 in chips)
Seat 4: FGators26 ($231 in chips)
Seat 5: MeowMeowCat ($337.95 in chips)
Seat 6: nsd4eva ($200 in chips)
MeowMeowCat: posts small blind $1
nsd4eva: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Tc Th]
Reimertz: folds
Duffs#1fan: folds
Bad Beatz: folds
Duffs#1fan leaves the table
FGators26: raises $6 to $8
MeowMeowCat: folds
nsd4eva: raises $17 to $25
FGators26: raises $206 to $231 and is all-in
nsd4eva: calls $175 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [4c 3d 5s]
*** TURN *** [4c 3d 5s] [3c]
*** RIVER *** [4c 3d 5s 3c] [6s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
nsd4eva: shows [Ac As] (two pair, Aces and Threes)
FGators26: mucks hand
nsd4eva collected $398 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $401 | Rake $3
Board [4c 3d 5s 3c 6s]
Seat 1: Reimertz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Duffs#1fan folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Bad Beatz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: FGators26 (button) mucked [Tc Th]
Seat 5: MeowMeowCat (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: nsd4eva (big blind) showed [Ac As] and won ($398) with two pair, Aces and Threes
[/ QUOTE ]
4betting is probably +ev here but its far from optimal. JJ+ isn't going to fold and all the bad hands he three bets with will. There is a lot more value in calling then 4betting.
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okerStars Game #9389148974: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 19:09:29 (ET)
Table 'Dubiago' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: yankdog ($246 in chips)
Seat 2: DF_Newb ($200 in chips)
Seat 3: luremusa ($232 in chips)
Seat 4: FGators26 ($269.25 in chips)
Seat 5: cariadon ($210 in chips)
Seat 6: forbzy1 ($96 in chips)
DF_Newb: posts small blind $1
luremusa: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Qc Qs]
FGators26: raises $6 to $8
cariadon: folds
forbzy1: raises $12 to $20
yankdog: folds
DF_Newb: folds
luremusa: calls $18
FGators26: raises $80 to $100
forbzy1: folds
luremusa: calls $80
*** FLOP *** [4s Kh 8d]
luremusa: bets $2
FGators26: calls $2
*** TURN *** [4s Kh 8d] [5d]
luremusa: bets $40
FGators26: folds
luremusa collected $222 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $225 | Rake $3
Board [4s Kh 8d 5d]
Seat 1: yankdog (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: DF_Newb (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: luremusa (big blind) collected ($222)
Seat 4: FGators26 folded on the Turn
Seat 5: cariadon folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: forbzy1 folded before Flop
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This is a really [censored] spot I have no idea.I think I call down because your getting such a good price but I really don't know.
[ QUOTE ]
PokerStars Game #9389254024: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 19:16:05 (ET)
Table 'Oceana V' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Junbo ($101.60 in chips)
Seat 2: FGators26 ($402.35 in chips)
Seat 3: Haloth2 ($214 in chips)
Seat 4: mr jj cake ($140.35 in chips)
Seat 5: gregnic6 ($139.65 in chips)
mr jj cake: posts small blind $1
gregnic6: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Ks As]
Junbo: calls $2
FGators26: raises $10 to $12
Haloth2: folds
mr jj cake: folds
gregnic6: calls $10
Junbo: calls $10
*** FLOP *** [Kc 3s Qh]
gregnic6: bets $14
Junbo: folds
Junbo leaves the table
FGators26: raises $24 to $38
gregnic6: calls $24
*** TURN *** [Kc 3s Qh] [9h]
gregnic6: checks
FGators26: bets $352.35 and is all-in
gregnic6: calls $89.65 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [Kc 3s Qh 9h] [7s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
gregnic6: shows [Jh Td] (a straight, Nine to King)
FGators26: mucks hand
gregnic6 collected $290.30 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $292.30 | Rake $2
Board [Kc 3s Qh 9h 7s]
Seat 1: Junbo folded on the Flop
Seat 2: FGators26 mucked [Ks As]
Seat 3: Haloth2 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: mr jj cake (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: gregnic6 (big blind) showed [Jh Td] and won ($290.30) with a straight, Nine to King
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Your flop raise is terrible here. Either call or make it like 85 to go. By making this small flop raise you basically guarantee that you'll stack off. but you also let him chase. If I make that small flop raise I check the turn on this board your beat a lot.
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PokerStars Game #9389380805: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 19:24:04 (ET)
Table 'Oceana V' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: FGators26 ($253.70 in chips)
Seat 4: mr jj cake ($199.20 in chips)
Seat 5: gregnic6 ($267.45 in chips)
Seat 6: CrabClaws ($200 in chips)
CrabClaws: posts small blind $1
FGators26: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [7h Ah]
mr jj cake: folds
gregnic6: folds
CrabClaws: raises $6 to $8
FGators26: calls $6
*** FLOP *** [Ad 5s 2c]
CrabClaws: bets $12
FGators26: calls $12
*** TURN *** [Ad 5s 2c] [7s]
CrabClaws: bets $32
FGators26: calls $32
*** RIVER *** [Ad 5s 2c 7s] [6s]
CrabClaws: bets $55
FGators26: raises $146.70 to $201.70 and is all-in
CrabClaws: calls $93 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FGators26: shows [7h Ah] (two pair, Aces and Sevens)
CrabClaws: shows [Ts Qs] (a flush, Queen high)
CrabClaws collected $398 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $400 | Rake $2
Board [Ad 5s 2c 7s 6s]
Seat 2: FGators26 (big blind) showed [7h Ah] and lost with two pair, Aces and Sevens
Seat 4: mr jj cake folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: gregnic6 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: CrabClaws (small blind) showed [Ts Qs] and won ($398) with a flush, Queen high
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This looks fine sometimes I raise the turn. Sometimes I don't raise the river. Readless though it seems fine.
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PokerStars Game #9389611519: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 19:38:33 (ET)
Table 'Oceana V' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: owlking ($124.15 in chips)
Seat 2: FGators26 ($217.60 in chips)
Seat 3: Bad Beatz ($207.20 in chips)
Seat 4: jus2awsum ($200 in chips)
Seat 5: gregnic6 ($299 in chips)
Seat 6: CrabClaws ($365 in chips)
Bad Beatz: posts small blind $1
jus2awsum: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Jc Jh]
gregnic6: calls $2
CrabClaws: calls $2
owlking: calls $2
FGators26: raises $12 to $14
Bad Beatz: calls $13
jus2awsum: calls $12
gregnic6: folds
CrabClaws: calls $12
owlking: calls $12
*** FLOP *** [9d 4h 7h]
Bad Beatz: checks
jus2awsum: checks
CrabClaws: checks
owlking: bets $12
FGators26: raises $44 to $56
Bad Beatz: folds
jus2awsum: raises $130 to $186 and is all-in
CrabClaws: folds
owlking: calls $98.15 and is all-in
FGators26: folds
*** TURN *** [9d 4h 7h] [6s]
*** RIVER *** [9d 4h 7h 6s] [2h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
jus2awsum: shows [9c 9s] (three of a kind, Nines)
owlking: mucks hand
[/ QUOTE ]
Make a bigger flop raise at least pot. This hand is fine though.
[ QUOTE ]
PokerStars Game #9389685348: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 19:43:01 (ET)
Table 'Lacadiera IV' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: pochen ($225.50 in chips)
Seat 2: Cassler421 ($143.85 in chips)
Seat 3: FGators26 ($239.10 in chips)
Seat 4: dani06 ($36.20 in chips)
Seat 5: SilverTarga ($200.45 in chips)
Seat 6: MidnightTokr ($468 in chips)
dani06: posts small blind $1
SilverTarga: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [7d 5d]
MidnightTokr: raises $6 to $8
pochen: folds
Cassler421: folds
FGators26: calls $8
dani06: calls $7
SilverTarga: folds
*** FLOP *** [8d 6h Th]
dani06: checks
MidnightTokr: bets $14
FGators26: calls $14
dani06: folds
*** TURN *** [8d 6h Th] [3h]
MidnightTokr: checks
FGators26 said, "45"
FGators26: bets $45
MidnightTokr: calls $45
*** RIVER *** [8d 6h Th 3h] [8s]
MidnightTokr: checks
FGators26: bets $100
MidnightTokr: calls $100
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FGators26: shows [7d 5d] (a pair of Eights)
MidnightTokr: shows [Qs Qh] (two pair, Queens and Eights)
MidnightTokr collected $341 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
[/ QUOTE ]
Fold the flop your draw is bad. You don't get paid off on a 9 and there is a flush draw out there. As played the river bet is pretty bad I don't think your getting folds often.
[ QUOTE ]
PokerStars Game #9389753325: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 19:47:11 (ET)
Table 'Boliviana II' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: saloon10bill ($116.70 in chips)
Seat 2: greear66 ($128.20 in chips)
Seat 3: FGators26 ($249 in chips)
Seat 4: jus2awsum ($197 in chips)
Seat 5: Sporto58 ($624.80 in chips)
Seat 6: cariadon ($246 in chips)
cariadon: posts small blind $1
saloon10bill: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [8c 8h]
greear66: raises $6 to $8
FGators26: calls $8
jus2awsum: folds
Sporto58: folds
cariadon: calls $7
saloon10bill: calls $6
*** FLOP *** [4d 8d 6c]
cariadon: bets $20
saloon10bill: calls $20
greear66: raises $100.20 to $120.20 and is all-in
FGators26: raises $120.80 to $241 and is all-in
cariadon: calls $218 and is all-in
saloon10bill: calls $88.70 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [4d 8d 6c] [Ad]
*** RIVER *** [4d 8d 6c Ad] [7c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
cariadon: shows [6h 6s] (three of a kind, Sixes)
FGators26: shows [8c 8h] (three of a kind, Eights)
FGators26 collected $235.60 from side pot-2
greear66: shows [Ah Ac] (three of a kind, Aces)
greear66 collected $34.50 from side pot-1
saloon10bill: mucks hand
greear66 collected $463.80 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $736.90 Main pot $463.80. Side pot-1 $34.50. Side pot-2 $235.60. | Rake $3
Board [4d 8d 6c Ad 7c]
Seat 1: saloon10bill (big blind) mucked [9c 7d]
Seat 2: greear66 showed [Ah Ac] and won ($498.30) with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 3: FGators26 showed [8c 8h] and won ($235.60) with three of a kind, Eights
Seat 4: jus2awsum folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Sporto58 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: cariadon (small blind) showed [6h 6s] and lost with three of a kind, Sixes
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PokerStars Game #9389804509: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 19:50:20 (ET)
Table 'Phaedra III' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: mikeyshim11 ($117.75 in chips)
Seat 2: racer1979 ($108.35 in chips)
Seat 3: niboj ($91 in chips)
Seat 4: mackie18 ($116.50 in chips)
Seat 5: FGators26 ($320.55 in chips)
Seat 6: pacers00 ($104.70 in chips)
pacers00: posts small blind $1
mikeyshim11: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [As 6s]
racer1979: raises $2 to $4
niboj: folds
mackie18: calls $4
FGators26: calls $4
pacers00: folds
mikeyshim11: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [7h 2s Qs]
mikeyshim11: checks
racer1979: checks
mackie18: bets $10
FGators26: calls $10
mikeyshim11: folds
racer1979: folds
*** TURN *** [7h 2s Qs] [7d]
mackie18: bets $18
FGators26: calls $18
*** RIVER *** [7h 2s Qs 7d] [Ks]
mackie18: bets $50
FGators26: raises $50 to $100
mackie18: calls $34.50 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FGators26: shows [As 6s] (a flush, Ace high)
mackie18: shows [Kc Kd] (a full house, Kings full of Sevens)
mackie18 collected $239 from pot
[/ QUOTE ]
Raise the flop and get it in.
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PokerStars Game #9390022882: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 20:03:51 (ET)
Table 'Dubiago' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 4: FGators26 ($297.35 in chips)
Seat 5: cariadon ($391.15 in chips)
Seat 6: franzappa ($115.30 in chips)
cariadon: posts small blind $1
franzappa: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Ac Js]
FGators26: raises $6 to $8
cariadon: calls $7
franzappa: folds
*** FLOP *** [7d 6s As]
cariadon: checks
FGators26: bets $14
cariadon: calls $14
*** TURN *** [7d 6s As] [Jc]
cariadon: bets $35
FGators26: raises $61 to $96
cariadon: raises $273.15 to $369.15 and is all-in
FGators26: calls $179.35 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [7d 6s As Jc] [5d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
cariadon: shows [3s 4s] (a straight, Three to Seven)
FGators26: mucks hand
cariadon collected $595.70 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $596.70 | Rake $1
Board [7d 6s As Jc 5d]
Seat 4: FGators26 (button) mucked [Ac Js]
Seat 5: cariadon (small blind) showed [3s 4s] and won ($595.70) with a straight, Three to Seven
Seat 6: franzappa (big blind) folded before Flop
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PokerStars Game #9390290241: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 20:20:09 (ET)
Table 'Lacadiera IV' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: pochen ($225.10 in chips)
Seat 2: kev1987 ($36.80 in chips)
Seat 3: FGators26 ($219 in chips)
Seat 4: pimpsta007 ($86.90 in chips)
Seat 5: SilverTarga ($376.20 in chips)
Seat 6: MidnightTokr ($682.75 in chips)
SilverTarga: posts small blind $1
MidnightTokr: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Kh Th]
pochen: calls $2
kev1987: folds
FGators26: raises $8 to $10
pimpsta007: folds
SilverTarga: folds
MidnightTokr: folds
pochen: calls $8
*** FLOP *** [Ks 6c 2s]
pochen: checks
FGators26: bets $16
pochen: calls $16
*** TURN *** [Ks 6c 2s] [Qd]
pochen: checks
FGators26: checks
*** RIVER *** [Ks 6c 2s Qd] [6d]
pochen: bets $39.10
FGators26: calls $39.10
*** SHOW DOWN ***
pochen: shows [Ad Ac] (two pair, Aces and Sixes)
FGators26: mucks hand
pochen collected $130.20 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $133.20 | Rake $3
Board [Ks 6c 2s Qd 6d]
Seat 1: pochen showed [Ad Ac] and won ($130.20) with two pair, Aces and Sixes
Seat 2: kev1987 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: FGators26 mucked [Kh Th]
Seat 4: pimpsta007 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: SilverTarga (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: MidnightTokr (big blind) folded before Flop
[/ QUOTE ]
The river is close it might be a fold. Either way you can't make that big a mistake on the river.
[ QUOTE ]
PokerStars Game #9390417187: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 20:27:57 (ET)
Table 'Aglaja V' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: stoner100 ($239.30 in chips)
Seat 2: Leatherass9 ($197.95 in chips)
Seat 3: FGators26 ($288.45 in chips)
Seat 4: redgrape ($200 in chips)
Seat 5: platopat ($90.40 in chips)
Seat 6: NjCriminal ($289.65 in chips)
NjCriminal: posts small blind $1
stoner100: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Qc Ad]
Leatherass9: folds
FGators26: raises $6 to $8
redgrape: folds
platopat: calls $8
NjCriminal: folds
stoner100: calls $6
*** FLOP *** [6h Qs 5s]
stoner100: checks
FGators26: bets $18
platopat: calls $18
stoner100: folds
*** TURN *** [6h Qs 5s] [Kc]
FGators26: bets $44
platopat: raises $20.40 to $64.40 and is all-in
FGators26: calls $20.40
*** RIVER *** [6h Qs 5s Kc] [2h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FGators26: shows [Qc Ad] (a pair of Queens)
platopat: shows [Ks 7s] (a pair of Kings)
platopat collected $186.80 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $189.80 | Rake $3
Board [6h Qs 5s Kc 2h]
Seat 1: stoner100 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: Leatherass9 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: FGators26 showed [Qc Ad] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 4: redgrape folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: platopat (button) showed [Ks 7s] and won ($186.80) with a pair of Kings
Seat 6: NjCriminal (small blind) folded before Flop
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PokerStars Game #9390723122: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 20:46:45 (ET)
Table 'Winifred II' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: FGators26 ($451.75 in chips)
Seat 3: sawil ($196.80 in chips)
FGators26: posts small blind $1
sawil: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [As Ad]
FGators26: raises $6 to $8
sawil: calls $6
*** FLOP *** [5h 8d 3h]
sawil: bets $8
FGators26: raises $28 to $36
sawil: raises $152.80 to $188.80 and is all-in
FGators26: calls $152.80
*** TURN *** [5h 8d 3h] [7h]
*** RIVER *** [5h 8d 3h 7h] [Qs]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
sawil: shows [Ah Qh] (a flush, Ace high)
FGators26: mucks hand
sawil collected $392.60 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $393.60 | Rake $1
Board [5h 8d 3h 7h Qs]
Seat 1: FGators26 (button) (small blind) mucked [As Ad]
Seat 3: sawil (big blind) showed [Ah Qh] and won ($392.60) with a flush, Ace high
[/ QUOTE ]
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okerStars Game #9390760690: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 20:49:05 (ET)
Table 'Kopal II' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: FGators26 ($272.60 in chips)
Seat 2: FrinkX ($203 in chips)
Seat 3: aaron26e ($84.80 in chips)
Seat 4: umpa21 ($200 in chips)
Seat 5: orlov ($394.15 in chips)
Seat 6: Junbo ($61.95 in chips)
Junbo: posts small blind $1
FGators26: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Js Jh]
FrinkX: folds
aaron26e: folds
umpa21: folds
orlov: folds
Junbo: raises $4 to $6
FGators26: raises $16 to $22
Junbo: raises $39.95 to $61.95 and is all-in
FGators26: calls $39.95
*** FLOP *** [8s 4c 6d]
*** TURN *** [8s 4c 6d] [Kc]
*** RIVER *** [8s 4c 6d Kc] [3c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Junbo: shows [Qs Kd] (a pair of Kings)
FGators26: mucks hand
Junbo collected $120.90 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $123.90 | Rake $3
Board [8s 4c 6d Kc 3c]
Seat 1: FGators26 (big blind) mucked [Js Jh]
Seat 2: FrinkX folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: aaron26e folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: umpa21 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: orlov (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Junbo (small blind) showed [Qs Kd] and won ($120.90) with a pair of Kings
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PokerStars Game #9390789002: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 20:50:51 (ET)
Table 'Hekate V' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: FGators26 ($648.70 in chips)
Seat 2: greenballx ($52.30 in chips)
Seat 3: signon ($159 in chips)
Seat 4: cariadon ($202 in chips)
Seat 5: nevada_nl ($163.55 in chips)
cariadon: posts small blind $1
nevada_nl: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Ah Kh]
FGators26: raises $6 to $8
ols05 joins the table at seat #6
greenballx: calls $8
signon: folds
cariadon: folds
nevada_nl: folds
*** FLOP *** [Kc Js Td]
FGators26: bets $14
greenballx: calls $14
*** TURN *** [Kc Js Td] [5h]
FGators26: bets $406
greenballx: calls $30.30 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [Kc Js Td 5h] [6h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FGators26: shows [Ah Kh] (a pair of Kings)
greenballx: shows [As Qs] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
greenballx collected $105.60 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $107.60 | Rake $2
Board [Kc Js Td 5h 6h]
Seat 1: FGators26 showed [Ah Kh] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 2: greenballx showed [As Qs] and won ($105.60) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 3: signon (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: cariadon (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: nevada_nl (big blind) folded before Flop
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PokerStars Game #9390947145: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 21:00:44 (ET)
Table 'Winifred II' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: FGators26 ($269.75 in chips)
Seat 2: CarntR ($113.30 in chips)
Seat 3: sawil ($378.95 in chips)
Seat 6: playl3oy ($63.30 in chips)
playl3oy: posts small blind $1
FGators26: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Jd Js]
CarntR: folds
sawil: folds
playl3oy: raises $2 to $4
FGators26: raises $14 to $18
playl3oy: raises $45.30 to $63.30 and is all-in
FGators26: calls $45.30
*** FLOP *** [3h 7s 3c]
*** TURN *** [3h 7s 3c] [Ts]
*** RIVER *** [3h 7s 3c Ts] [Ah]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
playl3oy: shows [As Kh] (two pair, Aces and Threes)
FGators26: mucks hand
playl3oy collected $124.60 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $126.60 | Rake $2
Board [3h 7s 3c Ts Ah]
Seat 1: FGators26 (big blind) mucked [Jd Js]
Seat 2: CarntR folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: sawil (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: playl3oy (small blind) showed [As Kh] and won ($124.60) with two pair, Aces and Threes
[/ QUOTE ]
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PokerStars Game #9391083868: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 21:09:10 (ET)
Table 'Strenua II' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: wearingred ($200.95 in chips)
Seat 2: sampy345 ($238.25 in chips)
Seat 3: tiagoferreir ($198.45 in chips)
Seat 4: FGators26 ($442.60 in chips)
Seat 5: umpa21 ($200 in chips)
Seat 6: rolonrolon ($404.95 in chips)
umpa21: posts small blind $1
rolonrolon: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Ad Ac]
wearingred: folds
sampy345: folds
tiagoferreir: calls $2
FGators26: raises $8 to $10
umpa21: raises $190 to $200 and is all-in
rolonrolon: folds
tiagoferreir: folds
FGators26: calls $190
*** FLOP *** [8c Jd 7s]
rolonrolon said, "good fold Ricky"
*** TURN *** [8c Jd 7s] [Kd]
*** RIVER *** [8c Jd 7s Kd] [2s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
umpa21: shows [Ks Kc] (three of a kind, Kings)
FGators26: mucks hand
umpa21 collected $401 from pot
tiagoferreir said, "OMFG"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $404 | Rake $3
Board [8c Jd 7s Kd 2s]
Seat 1: wearingred folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: sampy345 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: tiagoferreir folded before Flop
Seat 4: FGators26 (button) mucked [Ad Ac]
Seat 5: umpa21 (small blind) showed [Ks Kc] and won ($401) with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 6: rolonrolon (big blind) folded before Flop
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PokerStars Game #9391296265: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 21:22:05 (ET)
Table 'Phaedra III' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: tofirstorder ($313.80 in chips)
Seat 3: vucyh25 ($44.40 in chips)
Seat 5: FGators26 ($320.05 in chips)
Seat 6: primemutton ($274.30 in chips)
tofirstorder: posts small blind $1
vucyh25: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Qc Qs]
FGators26: raises $6 to $8
primemutton: calls $8
tofirstorder: folds
vucyh25: raises $36.40 to $44.40 and is all-in
FGators26: calls $36.40
primemutton: folds
*** FLOP *** [Th 9s 6h]
*** TURN *** [Th 9s 6h] [7h]
*** RIVER *** [Th 9s 6h 7h] [Tc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
vucyh25: shows [3h Ah] (a flush, Ace high)
FGators26: mucks hand
vucyh25 collected $95.80 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $97.80 | Rake $2
Board [Th 9s 6h 7h Tc]
Seat 2: tofirstorder (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: vucyh25 (big blind) showed [3h Ah] and won ($95.80) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 5: FGators26 mucked [Qc Qs]
Seat 6: primemutton (button) folded before Flop
[/ QUOTE ]
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[ QUOTE ]
PokerStars Game #9391335505: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 21:24:27 (ET)
Table 'Winifred II' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: FGators26 ($189.80 in chips)
Seat 2: Alieth ($194.95 in chips)
Seat 3: sawil ($410.60 in chips)
Seat 4: BHold ($323.30 in chips)
Seat 5: gspot355 ($200 in chips)
Seat 6: dhmoney ($43.45 in chips)
Alieth: posts small blind $1
sawil: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Ts Ad]
BHold: folds
gspot355: folds
dhmoney: folds
FGators26: raises $6 to $8
Alieth: calls $7
sawil: calls $6
*** FLOP *** [8s 6h 8c]
Alieth: checks
sawil: checks
FGators26: checks
*** TURN *** [8s 6h 8c] [Td]
Alieth: bets $20
sawil: folds
FGators26: calls $20
*** RIVER *** [8s 6h 8c Td] [Jd]
Alieth: bets $30
FGators26: calls $30
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Alieth: shows [8d 9d] (three of a kind, Eights)
FGators26: mucks hand
Alieth collected $121 from pot
[/ QUOTE ]
Fold river the only hand your beating is a bluff.
[ QUOTE ]
PokerStars Game #9391464022: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 21:32:10 (ET)
Table 'Portlandia II' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: royalsu ($175.20 in chips)
Seat 2: bberard34 ($216.85 in chips)
Seat 3: mobster80 ($407.55 in chips)
Seat 4: CapnK60 ($241.60 in chips)
Seat 5: KGMONTE ($258 in chips)
Seat 6: FGators26 ($286.85 in chips)
KGMONTE: posts small blind $1
FGators26: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Kh Ac]
CapnK60 said, "nh"
royalsu: folds
CapnK60 said, "little loose call huh???"
bberard34: raises $6 to $8
mobster80: folds
CapnK60: folds
KGMONTE: folds
FGators26: raises $18 to $26
bberard34: calls $18
*** FLOP *** [4s 9h 2s]
FGators26: checks
bberard34: checks
*** TURN *** [4s 9h 2s] [Jh]
FGators26: checks
bberard34: bets $32
FGators26: calls $32
*** RIVER *** [4s 9h 2s Jh] [Qh]
FGators26: checks
bberard34: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FGators26: shows [Kh Ac] (high card Ace)
bberard34: shows [Qs Kd] (a pair of Queens)
bberard34 collected $114 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
[/ QUOTE ]
Bet the flop if if hes calling 3bets with kq you need to cbet that flop.also you'll get paid off with overpairs more
[ QUOTE ]
PokerStars Game #9391830024: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 21:54:14 (ET)
Table 'Oceana V' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: tofirstorder ($205 in chips)
Seat 2: FGators26 ($418.50 in chips)
Seat 3: MintMoney ($15.50 in chips)
Seat 4: DareYou2Call ($115.45 in chips)
Seat 5: NC 45 ($48 in chips)
Seat 6: tjsahota123 ($225.85 in chips)
MintMoney: posts small blind $1
DareYou2Call: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Ah Jh]
NC 45: calls $2
tjsahota123: raises $6 to $8
tofirstorder: calls $8
FGators26: calls $8
MintMoney: folds
DareYou2Call: folds
NC 45: folds
*** FLOP *** [7s Ac 4c]
MintMoney leaves the table
tjsahota123: checks
tofirstorder: checks
FGators26: bets $22
tjsahota123: calls $22
tofirstorder: folds
*** TURN *** [7s Ac 4c] [2c]
tjsahota123: checks
FGators26: checks
*** RIVER *** [7s Ac 4c 2c] [Js]
tjsahota123: bets $55
Luran joins the table at seat #3
FGators26: calls $55
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tjsahota123: shows [As Ad] (three of a kind, Aces)
FGators26: mucks hand
tjsahota123 collected $180 from pot
[/ QUOTE ]
Standard
Eagles
04-13-2007, 04:05 PM
For those keeping track at home about 1/2 these are standard.
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For those keeping track at home about 1/2 these are standard.
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Yeah, and it's the fact that he doesn't realize [censored] happens, or that many of us take beats like this and win anyway, which is why he doesn't improve
MusashiStyle
04-13-2007, 04:21 PM
what i don't get is where you even get enough money to play 1/2 Nl seems like u would be unable to keep enough $ to play this high. i guess maybe u r not this bad all the time prob.
adanthar
04-13-2007, 04:25 PM
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For those keeping track at home about 1/2 these are standard.
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the latter half. the first half (ie the attention span half) is pretty freaking awful
Eagles
04-13-2007, 04:27 PM
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For those keeping track at home about 1/2 these are standard.
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Yeah, and it's the fact that he doesn't realize [censored] happens, or that many of us take beats like this and win anyway, which is why he doesn't improve
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Ya I'm completely aware of this. Fgators right now is probably a marginal winner at 200nl but he could be way better if he listened to advice people gave him.
Fistdantilus
04-13-2007, 04:33 PM
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Well.. two points:
1) He's not that bad.
2) Tons and tons and tons of 2p2ers are really really bad at poker.
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I'll add a few more things:
1) that you may not know who these opponents are: many of the people he's stacking off light against are complete droolers and would stack with 2nd pair.
2) I was surprised to see that many people in this thread are on my freaking buddy list. Some of the 'winners' on this thread that I see have notes such as "any 2 s00ted cards, even HU. 8d2d", "Broke w/ TPNK", "peels for gutshot/set".
3) Gators is one of the more solid players I've seen at this level. I have him at a nice 6ptbb/100 over a 3.5K sample. Not a huge sample obviously, but it's yet another piece of evidence pointing in a certain direction.
But I apologize for ruining your fun. Resuming current programming... now:
Gators, your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.
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what i don't get is where you even get enough money to play 1/2 Nl seems like u would be unable to keep enough $ to play this high. i guess maybe u r not this bad all the time prob.
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I play the 1/2 6 max a lot as well and run into him a ton (I 8-10 table and he's usually on 2 or so).
He probably doesn't fair too well against the regulars bc everyone knows who he is and knows more about him than the average regular bc a) he makes these posts and is an attention whore and b) he plays so damn much so ppl naturally can pick up on his tendancies.
However he does have a bunch of deep stacks quite often bc the average fish/recreational player will pay him off. (Plus he stacks my AA with his KK, j/k I'm not salty)
/end rant
/begin insult again
FWIW, I am extremely lazy at picking up on people's tendancies unless I notice they are 2p2 (even then I don't pay attention much). This is prolly the reason I still play 1/2NL, but of all the people I run into I'd say I have the best feel for how Fgators plays than anyone else I play against.
kemystery
04-13-2007, 04:46 PM
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How are you guys doing? Haven't seriously talked in a while. I've been doing great, only on suicide watch on Sundays, Mondays, Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Thursdays,Fridays, and Saturdays, and Sundays. My funeral will be Janurary 3rd or 4th (depending on the availability of the funeral home) after I get Supernova Elite for the year. All are welcome. I'd like Nath as one of the guys to carry my coffin. He has been blessed with good hands.
These hands are as they were played. I have no need to change the hand histories, as we know. There are some good plays, some bad plays, etc.
EDIT: there are all hands I've played today (Thursday April 12th) that are over $100 or right near it. There are those that say it's not about just the big pots so these are all the significant ones I've played up until this point.
Enjoy, and as always, best wishes at the table because there is no good "luck" in poker.
FGators.
PokerStars Game #9388758286: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 18:44:55 (ET)
Table 'Hekate V' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: FGators26 ($199.70 in chips)
Seat 2: MeowMeowCat ($376.30 in chips)
Seat 3: bettyboo123 ($122.80 in chips)
Seat 4: jakally ($303.90 in chips)
Seat 5: paronoid ($696.90 in chips)
FGators26: posts small blind $1
MeowMeowCat: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Tc Th]
bettyboo123: folds
jakally: raises $6 to $8
paronoid: folds
FGators26: raises $18 to $26
MeowMeowCat: folds
jakally: calls $18
*** FLOP *** [Qd Ad 7c]
FGators26: bets $40
meh whatever
Haloth2 has returned
jakally: raises $237.90 to $277.90 and is all-in
FGators26: folds
jakally collected $132 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $134 | Rake $2
Board [Qd Ad 7c]
Seat 1: FGators26 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: MeowMeowCat (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: bettyboo123 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: jakally collected ($132)
Seat 5: paronoid (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
okerStars Game #9388987075: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 18:59:25 (ET)
Table 'Honoria III' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Reimertz ($376.95 in chips)
Seat 2: Duffs#1fan ($202 in chips)
Seat 3: Bad Beatz ($230.75 in chips)
Seat 4: FGators26 ($231 in chips)
Seat 5: MeowMeowCat ($337.95 in chips)
Seat 6: nsd4eva ($200 in chips)
MeowMeowCat: posts small blind $1
nsd4eva: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Tc Th]
Reimertz: folds
Duffs#1fan: folds
Bad Beatz: folds
Duffs#1fan leaves the table
FGators26: raises $6 to $8
MeowMeowCat: folds
nsd4eva: raises $17 to $25
FGators26: raises $206 to $231 and is all-in
I wouldn't make this raise in a $5 sng
nsd4eva: calls $175 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [4c 3d 5s]
*** TURN *** [4c 3d 5s] [3c]
*** RIVER *** [4c 3d 5s 3c] [6s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
nsd4eva: shows [Ac As] (two pair, Aces and Threes)
FGators26: mucks hand
nsd4eva collected $398 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $401 | Rake $3
Board [4c 3d 5s 3c 6s]
Seat 1: Reimertz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Duffs#1fan folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Bad Beatz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: FGators26 (button) mucked [Tc Th]
Seat 5: MeowMeowCat (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: nsd4eva (big blind) showed [Ac As] and won ($398) with two pair, Aces and Threes
okerStars Game #9389148974: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 19:09:29 (ET)
Table 'Dubiago' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: yankdog ($246 in chips)
Seat 2: DF_Newb ($200 in chips)
Seat 3: luremusa ($232 in chips)
Seat 4: FGators26 ($269.25 in chips)
Seat 5: cariadon ($210 in chips)
Seat 6: forbzy1 ($96 in chips)
DF_Newb: posts small blind $1
luremusa: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Qc Qs]
FGators26: raises $6 to $8
cariadon: folds
forbzy1: raises $12 to $20
yankdog: folds
DF_Newb: folds
luremusa: calls $18
FGators26: raises $80 to $100
forbzy1: folds
luremusa: calls $80
*** FLOP *** [4s Kh 8d]
luremusa: bets $2
FGators26: calls $2
*** TURN *** [4s Kh 8d] [5d]
luremusa: bets $40
FGators26: folds
lol, I love folding when I have no Idea where I am in a hand
luremusa collected $222 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $225 | Rake $3
Board [4s Kh 8d 5d]
Seat 1: yankdog (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: DF_Newb (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: luremusa (big blind) collected ($222)
Seat 4: FGators26 folded on the Turn
Seat 5: cariadon folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: forbzy1 folded before Flop
PokerStars Game #9389254024: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 19:16:05 (ET)
Table 'Oceana V' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Junbo ($101.60 in chips)
Seat 2: FGators26 ($402.35 in chips)
Seat 3: Haloth2 ($214 in chips)
Seat 4: mr jj cake ($140.35 in chips)
Seat 5: gregnic6 ($139.65 in chips)
mr jj cake: posts small blind $1
gregnic6: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Ks As]
Junbo: calls $2
FGators26: raises $10 to $12
Haloth2: folds
mr jj cake: folds
gregnic6: calls $10
Junbo: calls $10
*** FLOP *** [Kc 3s Qh]
gregnic6: bets $14
Junbo: folds
Junbo leaves the table
FGators26: raises $24 to $38
gregnic6: calls $24
*** TURN *** [Kc 3s Qh] [9h]
gregnic6: checks
FGators26: bets $352.35 and is all-in
open push when the straight card gets there? on a rainbow board? you put him on K8/KT/KJ and figured villain would stack with it?
gregnic6: calls $89.65 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [Kc 3s Qh 9h] [7s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
gregnic6: shows [Jh Td] (a straight, Nine to King)
FGators26: mucks hand
gregnic6 collected $290.30 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $292.30 | Rake $2
Board [Kc 3s Qh 9h 7s]
Seat 1: Junbo folded on the Flop
Seat 2: FGators26 mucked [Ks As]
Seat 3: Haloth2 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: mr jj cake (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: gregnic6 (big blind) showed [Jh Td] and won ($290.30) with a straight, Nine to King
PokerStars Game #9389380805: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 19:24:04 (ET)
Table 'Oceana V' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: FGators26 ($253.70 in chips)
Seat 4: mr jj cake ($199.20 in chips)
Seat 5: gregnic6 ($267.45 in chips)
Seat 6: CrabClaws ($200 in chips)
CrabClaws: posts small blind $1
FGators26: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [7h Ah]
mr jj cake: folds
gregnic6: folds
CrabClaws: raises $6 to $8
FGators26: calls $6
*** FLOP *** [Ad 5s 2c]
CrabClaws: bets $12
FGators26: calls $12
*** TURN *** [Ad 5s 2c] [7s]
CrabClaws: bets $32
FGators26: calls $32
you're so push happy, yet you can't find and all in here?
*** RIVER *** [Ad 5s 2c 7s] [6s]
CrabClaws: bets $55
FGators26: raises $146.70 to $201.70 and is all-in
sick
CrabClaws: calls $93 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FGators26: shows [7h Ah] (two pair, Aces and Sevens)
CrabClaws: shows [Ts Qs] (a flush, Queen high)
CrabClaws collected $398 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $400 | Rake $2
Board [Ad 5s 2c 7s 6s]
Seat 2: FGators26 (big blind) showed [7h Ah] and lost with two pair, Aces and Sevens
Seat 4: mr jj cake folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: gregnic6 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: CrabClaws (small blind) showed [Ts Qs] and won ($398) with a flush, Queen high
PokerStars Game #9389611519: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 19:38:33 (ET)
Table 'Oceana V' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: owlking ($124.15 in chips)
Seat 2: FGators26 ($217.60 in chips)
Seat 3: Bad Beatz ($207.20 in chips)
Seat 4: jus2awsum ($200 in chips)
Seat 5: gregnic6 ($299 in chips)
Seat 6: CrabClaws ($365 in chips)
Bad Beatz: posts small blind $1
jus2awsum: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Jc Jh]
gregnic6: calls $2
CrabClaws: calls $2
owlking: calls $2
FGators26: raises $12 to $14
Bad Beatz: calls $13
jus2awsum: calls $12
gregnic6: folds
CrabClaws: calls $12
owlking: calls $12
*** FLOP *** [9d 4h 7h]
Bad Beatz: checks
jus2awsum: checks
CrabClaws: checks
owlking: bets $12
FGators26: raises $44 to $56
Bad Beatz: folds
jus2awsum: raises $130 to $186 and is all-in
CrabClaws: folds
owlking: calls $98.15 and is all-in
FGators26: folds
well played, but my stepdaddy used to say one 'aw [censored]' wipes out 10 'at-a-boys'
*** TURN *** [9d 4h 7h] [6s]
*** RIVER *** [9d 4h 7h 6s] [2h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
jus2awsum: shows [9c 9s] (three of a kind, Nines)
owlking: mucks hand
PokerStars Game #9389685348: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 19:43:01 (ET)
Table 'Lacadiera IV' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: pochen ($225.50 in chips)
Seat 2: Cassler421 ($143.85 in chips)
Seat 3: FGators26 ($239.10 in chips)
Seat 4: dani06 ($36.20 in chips)
Seat 5: SilverTarga ($200.45 in chips)
Seat 6: MidnightTokr ($468 in chips)
dani06: posts small blind $1
SilverTarga: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [7d 5d]
MidnightTokr: raises $6 to $8
pochen: folds
Cassler421: folds
FGators26: calls $8
dani06: calls $7
SilverTarga: folds
*** FLOP *** [8d 6h Th]
dani06: checks
MidnightTokr: bets $14
FGators26: calls $14
pretty lame board to be drawing to a 5-7 straight
dani06: folds
*** TURN *** [8d 6h Th] [3h]
MidnightTokr: checks
FGators26 said, "45"
FGators26: bets $45
MidnightTokr: calls $45
*** RIVER *** [8d 6h Th 3h] [8s]
MidnightTokr: checks
FGators26: bets $100
I think the giveaway here is that you are betting rounds numbers that have to be typed in- when you're on a bluff, but anyone paying attention would see you pushing/betting slider amts with your strong hands
MidnightTokr: calls $100
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FGators26: shows [7d 5d] (a pair of Eights)
MidnightTokr: shows [Qs Qh] (two pair, Queens and Eights)
MidnightTokr collected $341 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
PokerStars Game #9389753325: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 19:47:11 (ET)
Table 'Boliviana II' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: saloon10bill ($116.70 in chips)
Seat 2: greear66 ($128.20 in chips)
Seat 3: FGators26 ($249 in chips)
Seat 4: jus2awsum ($197 in chips)
Seat 5: Sporto58 ($624.80 in chips)
Seat 6: cariadon ($246 in chips)
cariadon: posts small blind $1
saloon10bill: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [8c 8h]
greear66: raises $6 to $8
FGators26: calls $8
jus2awsum: folds
Sporto58: folds
cariadon: calls $7
saloon10bill: calls $6
*** FLOP *** [4d 8d 6c]
cariadon: bets $20
saloon10bill: calls $20
greear66: raises $100.20 to $120.20 and is all-in
FGators26: raises $120.80 to $241 and is all-in
cariadon: calls $218 and is all-in
saloon10bill: calls $88.70 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [4d 8d 6c] [Ad]
*** RIVER *** [4d 8d 6c Ad] [7c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
cariadon: shows [6h 6s] (three of a kind, Sixes)
FGators26: shows [8c 8h] (three of a kind, Eights)
FGators26 collected $235.60 from side pot-2
greear66: shows [Ah Ac] (three of a kind, Aces)
greear66 collected $34.50 from side pot-1
saloon10bill: mucks hand
greear66 collected $463.80 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $736.90 Main pot $463.80. Side pot-1 $34.50. Side pot-2 $235.60. | Rake $3
Board [4d 8d 6c Ad 7c]
Seat 1: saloon10bill (big blind) mucked [9c 7d]
Seat 2: greear66 showed [Ah Ac] and won ($498.30) with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 3: FGators26 showed [8c 8h] and won ($235.60) with three of a kind, Eights
Seat 4: jus2awsum folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Sporto58 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: cariadon (small blind) showed [6h 6s] and lost with three of a kind, Sixes
except for the AJ hand, only cooler bad beat hand in whole post
PokerStars Game #9389804509: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 19:50:20 (ET)
Table 'Phaedra III' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: mikeyshim11 ($117.75 in chips)
Seat 2: racer1979 ($108.35 in chips)
Seat 3: niboj ($91 in chips)
Seat 4: mackie18 ($116.50 in chips)
Seat 5: FGators26 ($320.55 in chips)
Seat 6: pacers00 ($104.70 in chips)
pacers00: posts small blind $1
mikeyshim11: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [As 6s]
racer1979: raises $2 to $4
niboj: folds
mackie18: calls $4
FGators26: calls $4
pacers00: folds
mikeyshim11: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [7h 2s Qs]
mikeyshim11: checks
racer1979: checks
mackie18: bets $10
FGators26: calls $10
mikeyshim11: folds
racer1979: folds
*** TURN *** [7h 2s Qs] [7d]
mackie18: bets $18
FGators26: calls $18
*** RIVER *** [7h 2s Qs 7d] [Ks]
mackie18: bets $50
FGators26: raises $50 to $100
do you ever raise with the nuts?
mackie18: calls $34.50 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FGators26: shows [As 6s] (a flush, Ace high)
mackie18: shows [Kc Kd] (a full house, Kings full of Sevens)
mackie18 collected $239 from pot
PokerStars Game #9390022882: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 20:03:51 (ET)
Table 'Dubiago' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 4: FGators26 ($297.35 in chips)
Seat 5: cariadon ($391.15 in chips)
Seat 6: franzappa ($115.30 in chips)
cariadon: posts small blind $1
franzappa: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Ac Js]
FGators26: raises $6 to $8
cariadon: calls $7
franzappa: folds
*** FLOP *** [7d 6s As]
cariadon: checks
FGators26: bets $14
cariadon: calls $14
*** TURN *** [7d 6s As] [Jc]
cariadon: bets $35
FGators26: raises $61 to $96
cariadon: raises $273.15 to $369.15 and is all-in
FGators26: calls $179.35 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [7d 6s As Jc] [5d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
cariadon: shows [3s 4s] (a straight, Three to Seven)
FGators26: mucks hand
cariadon collected $595.70 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $596.70 | Rake $1
Board [7d 6s As Jc 5d]
Seat 4: FGators26 (button) mucked [Ac Js]
Seat 5: cariadon (small blind) showed [3s 4s] and won ($595.70) with a straight, Three to Seven
Seat 6: franzappa (big blind) folded before Flop
PokerStars Game #9390290241: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 20:20:09 (ET)
Table 'Lacadiera IV' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: pochen ($225.10 in chips)
Seat 2: kev1987 ($36.80 in chips)
Seat 3: FGators26 ($219 in chips)
Seat 4: pimpsta007 ($86.90 in chips)
Seat 5: SilverTarga ($376.20 in chips)
Seat 6: MidnightTokr ($682.75 in chips)
SilverTarga: posts small blind $1
MidnightTokr: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Kh Th]
pochen: calls $2
kev1987: folds
FGators26: raises $8 to $10
pimpsta007: folds
SilverTarga: folds
MidnightTokr: folds
pochen: calls $8
*** FLOP *** [Ks 6c 2s]
pochen: checks
FGators26: bets $16
pochen: calls $16
*** TURN *** [Ks 6c 2s] [Qd]
pochen: checks
FGators26: checks
*** RIVER *** [Ks 6c 2s Qd] [6d]
pochen: bets $39.10
FGators26: calls $39.10
seems like a fairly weak call, you can't beat any kicker, the board is paired - Maybe he has Jacks!
*** SHOW DOWN ***
pochen: shows [Ad Ac] (two pair, Aces and Sixes)
FGators26: mucks hand
pochen collected $130.20 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $133.20 | Rake $3
Board [Ks 6c 2s Qd 6d]
Seat 1: pochen showed [Ad Ac] and won ($130.20) with two pair, Aces and Sixes
Seat 2: kev1987 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: FGators26 mucked [Kh Th]
Seat 4: pimpsta007 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: SilverTarga (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: MidnightTokr (big blind) folded before Flop
PokerStars Game #9390417187: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 20:27:57 (ET)
Table 'Aglaja V' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: stoner100 ($239.30 in chips)
Seat 2: Leatherass9 ($197.95 in chips)
Seat 3: FGators26 ($288.45 in chips)
Seat 4: redgrape ($200 in chips)
Seat 5: platopat ($90.40 in chips)
Seat 6: NjCriminal ($289.65 in chips)
NjCriminal: posts small blind $1
stoner100: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Qc Ad]
Leatherass9: folds
FGators26: raises $6 to $8
redgrape: folds
platopat: calls $8
NjCriminal: folds
stoner100: calls $6
*** FLOP *** [6h Qs 5s]
stoner100: checks
FGators26: bets $18
platopat: calls $18
stoner100: folds
*** TURN *** [6h Qs 5s] [Kc]
FGators26: bets $44
platopat: raises $20.40 to $64.40 and is all-in
FGators26: calls $20.40
*** RIVER *** [6h Qs 5s Kc] [2h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FGators26: shows [Qc Ad] (a pair of Queens)
platopat: shows [Ks 7s] (a pair of Kings)
platopat collected $186.80 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $189.80 | Rake $3
Board [6h Qs 5s Kc 2h]
Seat 1: stoner100 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: Leatherass9 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: FGators26 showed [Qc Ad] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 4: redgrape folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: platopat (button) showed [Ks 7s] and won ($186.80) with a pair of Kings
Seat 6: NjCriminal (small blind) folded before Flop
PokerStars Game #9390723122: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 20:46:45 (ET)
Table 'Winifred II' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: FGators26 ($451.75 in chips)
Seat 3: sawil ($196.80 in chips)
FGators26: posts small blind $1
sawil: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [As Ad]
FGators26: raises $6 to $8
sawil: calls $6
*** FLOP *** [5h 8d 3h]
sawil: bets $8
FGators26: raises $28 to $36
sawil: raises $152.80 to $188.80 and is all-in
FGators26: calls $152.80
*** TURN *** [5h 8d 3h] [7h]
*** RIVER *** [5h 8d 3h 7h] [Qs]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
sawil: shows [Ah Qh] (a flush, Ace high)
FGators26: mucks hand
sawil collected $392.60 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $393.60 | Rake $1
Board [5h 8d 3h 7h Qs]
Seat 1: FGators26 (button) (small blind) mucked [As Ad]
Seat 3: sawil (big blind) showed [Ah Qh] and won ($392.60) with a flush, Ace high
3rd hand with money in good
okerStars Game #9390760690: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 20:49:05 (ET)
Table 'Kopal II' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: FGators26 ($272.60 in chips)
Seat 2: FrinkX ($203 in chips)
Seat 3: aaron26e ($84.80 in chips)
Seat 4: umpa21 ($200 in chips)
Seat 5: orlov ($394.15 in chips)
Seat 6: Junbo ($61.95 in chips)
Junbo: posts small blind $1
FGators26: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Js Jh]
FrinkX: folds
aaron26e: folds
umpa21: folds
orlov: folds
Junbo: raises $4 to $6
FGators26: raises $16 to $22
Junbo: raises $39.95 to $61.95 and is all-in
FGators26: calls $39.95
*** FLOP *** [8s 4c 6d]
*** TURN *** [8s 4c 6d] [Kc]
*** RIVER *** [8s 4c 6d Kc] [3c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Junbo: shows [Qs Kd] (a pair of Kings)
FGators26: mucks hand
Junbo collected $120.90 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $123.90 | Rake $3
Board [8s 4c 6d Kc 3c]
Seat 1: FGators26 (big blind) mucked [Js Jh]
Seat 2: FrinkX folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: aaron26e folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: umpa21 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: orlov (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Junbo (small blind) showed [Qs Kd] and won ($120.90) with a pair of Kings
PokerStars Game #9390789002: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 20:50:51 (ET)
Table 'Hekate V' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: FGators26 ($648.70 in chips)
Seat 2: greenballx ($52.30 in chips)
Seat 3: signon ($159 in chips)
Seat 4: cariadon ($202 in chips)
Seat 5: nevada_nl ($163.55 in chips)
cariadon: posts small blind $1
nevada_nl: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Ah Kh]
FGators26: raises $6 to $8
ols05 joins the table at seat #6
greenballx: calls $8
signon: folds
cariadon: folds
nevada_nl: folds
*** FLOP *** [Kc Js Td]
FGators26: bets $14
greenballx: calls $14
*** TURN *** [Kc Js Td] [5h]
FGators26: bets $406
greenballx: calls $30.30 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [Kc Js Td 5h] [6h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FGators26: shows [Ah Kh] (a pair of Kings)
greenballx: shows [As Qs] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
greenballx collected $105.60 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $107.60 | Rake $2
Board [Kc Js Td 5h 6h]
Seat 1: FGators26 showed [Ah Kh] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 2: greenballx showed [As Qs] and won ($105.60) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 3: signon (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: cariadon (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: nevada_nl (big blind) folded before Flop
PokerStars Game #9390947145: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 21:00:44 (ET)
Table 'Winifred II' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: FGators26 ($269.75 in chips)
Seat 2: CarntR ($113.30 in chips)
Seat 3: sawil ($378.95 in chips)
Seat 6: playl3oy ($63.30 in chips)
playl3oy: posts small blind $1
FGators26: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Jd Js]
CarntR: folds
sawil: folds
playl3oy: raises $2 to $4
FGators26: raises $14 to $18
do you always 3 bet pre w/ JJ?
playl3oy: raises $45.30 to $63.30 and is all-in
FGators26: calls $45.30
*** FLOP *** [3h 7s 3c]
*** TURN *** [3h 7s 3c] [Ts]
*** RIVER *** [3h 7s 3c Ts] [Ah]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
playl3oy: shows [As Kh] (two pair, Aces and Threes)
FGators26: mucks hand
playl3oy collected $124.60 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $126.60 | Rake $2
Board [3h 7s 3c Ts Ah]
Seat 1: FGators26 (big blind) mucked [Jd Js]
Seat 2: CarntR folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: sawil (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: playl3oy (small blind) showed [As Kh] and won ($124.60) with two pair, Aces and Threes
PokerStars Game #9391083868: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 21:09:10 (ET)
Table 'Strenua II' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: wearingred ($200.95 in chips)
Seat 2: sampy345 ($238.25 in chips)
Seat 3: tiagoferreir ($198.45 in chips)
Seat 4: FGators26 ($442.60 in chips)
Seat 5: umpa21 ($200 in chips)
Seat 6: rolonrolon ($404.95 in chips)
umpa21: posts small blind $1
rolonrolon: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Ad Ac]
wearingred: folds
sampy345: folds
tiagoferreir: calls $2
FGators26: raises $8 to $10
umpa21: raises $190 to $200 and is all-in
rolonrolon: folds
tiagoferreir: folds
FGators26: calls $190
*** FLOP *** [8c Jd 7s]
rolonrolon said, "good fold Ricky"
*** TURN *** [8c Jd 7s] [Kd]
*** RIVER *** [8c Jd 7s Kd] [2s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
umpa21: shows [Ks Kc] (three of a kind, Kings)
FGators26: mucks hand
umpa21 collected $401 from pot
tiagoferreir said, "OMFG"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $404 | Rake $3
Board [8c Jd 7s Kd 2s]
Seat 1: wearingred folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: sampy345 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: tiagoferreir folded before Flop
Seat 4: FGators26 (button) mucked [Ad Ac]
Seat 5: umpa21 (small blind) showed [Ks Kc] and won ($401) with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 6: rolonrolon (big blind) folded before Flop
ul
PokerStars Game #9391296265: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 21:22:05 (ET)
Table 'Phaedra III' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: tofirstorder ($313.80 in chips)
Seat 3: vucyh25 ($44.40 in chips)
Seat 5: FGators26 ($320.05 in chips)
Seat 6: primemutton ($274.30 in chips)
tofirstorder: posts small blind $1
vucyh25: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Qc Qs]
FGators26: raises $6 to $8
primemutton: calls $8
tofirstorder: folds
vucyh25: raises $36.40 to $44.40 and is all-in
FGators26: calls $36.40
primemutton: folds
*** FLOP *** [Th 9s 6h]
*** TURN *** [Th 9s 6h] [7h]
*** RIVER *** [Th 9s 6h 7h] [Tc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
vucyh25: shows [3h Ah] (a flush, Ace high)
FGators26: mucks hand
vucyh25 collected $95.80 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $97.80 | Rake $2
Board [Th 9s 6h 7h Tc]
Seat 2: tofirstorder (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: vucyh25 (big blind) showed [3h Ah] and won ($95.80) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 5: FGators26 mucked [Qc Qs]
Seat 6: primemutton (button) folded before Flop
bad beat
PokerStars Game #9391335505: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 21:24:27 (ET)
Table 'Winifred II' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: FGators26 ($189.80 in chips)
Seat 2: Alieth ($194.95 in chips)
Seat 3: sawil ($410.60 in chips)
Seat 4: BHold ($323.30 in chips)
Seat 5: gspot355 ($200 in chips)
Seat 6: dhmoney ($43.45 in chips)
Alieth: posts small blind $1
sawil: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Ts Ad]
BHold: folds
gspot355: folds
dhmoney: folds
FGators26: raises $6 to $8
Alieth: calls $7
sawil: calls $6
*** FLOP *** [8s 6h 8c]
Alieth: checks
sawil: checks
FGators26: checks
*** TURN *** [8s 6h 8c] [Td]
Alieth: bets $20
sawil: folds
FGators26: calls $20
*** RIVER *** [8s 6h 8c Td] [Jd]
Alieth: bets $30
FGators26: calls $30
pay off in LHE, not NLHE
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Alieth: shows [8d 9d] (three of a kind, Eights)
FGators26: mucks hand
Alieth collected $121 from pot
PokerStars Game #9391464022: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 21:32:10 (ET)
Table 'Portlandia II' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: royalsu ($175.20 in chips)
Seat 2: bberard34 ($216.85 in chips)
Seat 3: mobster80 ($407.55 in chips)
Seat 4: CapnK60 ($241.60 in chips)
Seat 5: KGMONTE ($258 in chips)
Seat 6: FGators26 ($286.85 in chips)
KGMONTE: posts small blind $1
FGators26: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Kh Ac]
CapnK60 said, "nh"
royalsu: folds
CapnK60 said, "little loose call huh???"
bberard34: raises $6 to $8
mobster80: folds
CapnK60: folds
KGMONTE: folds
FGators26: raises $18 to $26
bberard34: calls $18
*** FLOP *** [4s 9h 2s]
FGators26: checks
Ah- the little used play of 3-betting preflop, then checkcall/paying off, you wouldn't have lost this hand if you find a bet on the flop
bberard34: checks
*** TURN *** [4s 9h 2s] [Jh]
FGators26: checks
bberard34: bets $32
FGators26: calls $32
*** RIVER *** [4s 9h 2s Jh] [Qh]
FGators26: checks
bberard34: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FGators26: shows [Kh Ac] (high card Ace)
bberard34: shows [Qs Kd] (a pair of Queens)
bberard34 collected $114 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
PokerStars Game #9391830024: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 21:54:14 (ET)
Table 'Oceana V' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: tofirstorder ($205 in chips)
Seat 2: FGators26 ($418.50 in chips)
Seat 3: MintMoney ($15.50 in chips)
Seat 4: DareYou2Call ($115.45 in chips)
Seat 5: NC 45 ($48 in chips)
Seat 6: tjsahota123 ($225.85 in chips)
MintMoney: posts small blind $1
DareYou2Call: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Ah Jh]
NC 45: calls $2
tjsahota123: raises $6 to $8
tofirstorder: calls $8
FGators26: calls $8
MintMoney: folds
DareYou2Call: folds
NC 45: folds
*** FLOP *** [7s Ac 4c]
MintMoney leaves the table
tjsahota123: checks
tofirstorder: checks
FGators26: bets $22
tjsahota123: calls $22
tofirstorder: folds
*** TURN *** [7s Ac 4c] [2c]
tjsahota123: checks
FGators26: checks
*** RIVER *** [7s Ac 4c 2c] [Js]
tjsahota123: bets $55
Luran joins the table at seat #3
FGators26: calls $55
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tjsahota123: shows [As Ad] (three of a kind, Aces)
FGators26: mucks hand
tjsahota123 collected $180 from pot
probably have to pay this one off -
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goofyballer
04-13-2007, 05:44 PM
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Please PM Phil153 for his awesome software and run it over your database.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...art=17&vc=1 (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=9774803&page=0&fpart=17& vc=1)
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Second this, I'm really interested to see what comes up.
[Phill]
04-13-2007, 06:31 PM
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okerStars Game #9389148974: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/12 - 19:09:29 (ET)
Table 'Dubiago' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: yankdog ($246 in chips)
Seat 2: DF_Newb ($200 in chips)
Seat 3: luremusa ($232 in chips)
Seat 4: FGators26 ($269.25 in chips)
Seat 5: cariadon ($210 in chips)
Seat 6: forbzy1 ($96 in chips)
DF_Newb: posts small blind $1
luremusa: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FGators26 [Qc Qs]
FGators26: raises $6 to $8
cariadon: folds
forbzy1: raises $12 to $20
yankdog: folds
DF_Newb: folds
luremusa: calls $18
FGators26: raises $80 to $100
forbzy1: folds
luremusa: calls $80
*** FLOP *** [4s Kh 8d]
luremusa: bets $2
FGators26: calls $2
*** TURN *** [4s Kh 8d] [5d]
luremusa: bets $40
FGators26: folds
lol, I love folding when I have no Idea where I am in a hand
luremusa collected $222 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $225 | Rake $3
Board [4s Kh 8d 5d]
Seat 1: yankdog (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: DF_Newb (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: luremusa (big blind) collected ($222)
Seat 4: FGators26 folded on the Turn
Seat 5: cariadon folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: forbzy1 folded before Flop
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I didnt want to talk strategy and show my ignorance (i never claimed to be that good), but comon FGators, how can you play a hand this badly?
Just because you dont have a K, doesnt mean your opponant does. And with a pot of 220 on the flop im willing to view his $2 as a fancy check and find out if he has it and how much he likes it.
And as has already been pointed out 99% of the hands are standard or misplayed on one or more streets.
orange
04-13-2007, 06:44 PM
fg,
i think that your pretty solid from the small sample in which ive played with you.
Fat Nicky
04-13-2007, 07:00 PM
i've just browsed through this thread, and i haven't looked through any of these hands. but if everyone is correct in sayign that most of these hands are played poorly, could it have anything to do with the fact that fgators usually 12 tables
Eagles
04-13-2007, 07:25 PM
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I didnt want to talk strategy and show my ignorance (i never claimed to be that good), but comon FGators, how can you play a hand this badly?
Just because you dont have a K, doesnt mean your opponant does. And with a pot of 220 on the flop im willing to view his $2 as a fancy check and find out if he has it and how much he likes it.
And as has already been pointed out 99% of the hands are standard or misplayed on one or more streets.
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If your seriously suggesting raising this flop you are obviously much worse than Fgators.
FGators
04-13-2007, 08:04 PM
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I woke up and looked at these hands again...
..it's like you purposefully devise ways to get 1/3 of your stack in bad so you can make the 'tough' fold or 'pot odds' call with multiple overcards on board or drawing dead
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You really talk a big game for a guy thats too scared to play cash or poker much at all.
adanthar
04-13-2007, 08:09 PM
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I woke up and looked at these hands again...
..it's like you purposefully devise ways to get 1/3 of your stack in bad so you can make the 'tough' fold or 'pot odds' call with multiple overcards on board or drawing dead
[/ QUOTE ]
You really talk a big game for a guy thats too scared to play cash or poker much at all.
[/ QUOTE ]
o rly (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=beats&Number=9565979)
Neuge
04-13-2007, 08:10 PM
HU 4 ROLLS PLZ
kolotoure
04-13-2007, 08:11 PM
Why does Fgators start these threads? They always result in him getting told he sucks
holyfield5
04-13-2007, 08:14 PM
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Why does Fgators start these threads? They always result in him getting told he sucks
[/ QUOTE ]
i think he is seriously is convinced he is good and one day he will post one and everyone will go, wow FG you run so horrible you couldnt have played those hands better.
pepeman
04-13-2007, 08:26 PM
FG, you stack off so lightly its not even funny... Most of the hand you posted the $ went in while you were behind, there are a few beats, but most of them were standard.
PS. I love to play against people like you.
[Phill]
04-13-2007, 08:28 PM
Eagles,
3 1/2 hours ago with that hand you said:
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This is a really [censored] spot I have no idea.I think I call down because your getting such a good price but I really don't know.
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Id rather raise this flop then shutdown than call down.
By calling you are telling villain you didnt like the flop letting him control the hand here on in.
Fwiw, i would call the raise to 20 preflop there instead of putting in that extra bet so wouldnt put myself in this situation of a big pot and a strong 2nd pair. Which im sure will also be hated on.
As it happens looking over the stacks that hand really does suck. Id rather raise to 65 than call the 2, but the pot is huge from the preflop raise. Urgh, calling down sucks too.
The trouble with calling the flop minbet is villain will bet any turn with pretty much any two - and you will be bluffed off a big pot a lot more often than folding to a K.
Urgh, i dunno. I guess ive shown my ignorance...
Head in sand, end strategy in BBV. Fgators, any chance of cross posting that hand to SSNL and get a response on it in the correct forum.
NoahSD
04-13-2007, 09:03 PM
Holy [censored]... can I play the average 2p2er HU for rolls please? How the [censored] has nobody figured this out.
Let's go through the decisions in the hand and see if we can find the mistake:
1) Raise QQ to 4 BB preflop.
2) 4-bet half your stack.
3) Call a minbet getting 100:1 when raising anything meaningful folds out all worse hands and gets called by all better hands.
4) Fold QQ postflop getting 5:1 when our opponent has us beat 100% of the time.
Clearly the mistake in the hand is where he calls the minbet. I mean.. that's just insane. He should've shoved to see where he's at.. or just folded because he's getting sick reverse implied odds on his two outs when his opponent's got KKK.
kemystery
04-13-2007, 09:39 PM
clearly OP should push turn I assume?
also
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Holy [censored]... can I play the average BBVer HU for rolls please? How the [censored] has nobody figured this out.
[/ QUOTE ]
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clearly OP should push turn I assume?
also
[ QUOTE ]
Holy [censored]... can I play the average BBVer HU for rolls please? How the [censored] has nobody figured this out.
[/ QUOTE ]
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I'm pretty sure that the average BBVer plays better poker than the average 2+2er.
<font color="white"> Lori </font>
Big_Jim
04-13-2007, 09:46 PM
Hey, FGators, how is that video coming along?
PM me if you need help setting it up.
Pudge714
04-13-2007, 09:50 PM
Phil,
Raising the flop is really really bad.
Any play which people justify by betting to see where you are is usually misplayed.
Betting to see where you are allows worse hands to fold and better hands to call/raise.
FWIW I think I barf and call the turn, because you don't need to be good that often.
kemystery
04-13-2007, 09:57 PM
this thread is apparently evidence of the contrary
[Phill]
04-13-2007, 10:01 PM
Pudge (thanks btw),
If villain checks, do you shove/commit yourself or check behind?
Yeah, on reflection i hate raising the flop due to the size of the pot developed preflop and its relation to the stacks.
Fwiw, this is why i dont like to build too much preflop even though im not an amazing post flop player. I mean there are 4 betting rounds and no rule against using as many as possible.
Eagles
04-13-2007, 10:06 PM
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I woke up and looked at these hands again...
..it's like you purposefully devise ways to get 1/3 of your stack in bad so you can make the 'tough' fold or 'pot odds' call with multiple overcards on board or drawing dead
[/ QUOTE ]
You really talk a big game for a guy thats too scared to play cash or poker much at all.
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Fgators,
I have defended you more than basically everyone in this thread. But Adanthar is probably better at poker than you ever will be because your so [censored] stubborn. If your going to talk [censored] don't talk it to someone way better than you.
FGators
04-13-2007, 10:50 PM
Adanthar has an image of being [censored] great, yet for some reason I have an image of sucking. I watched the USPC, I watched how all those young internet players play and I play exactly like them. I might not be able to put into words or describe lines as good as Adanthar but I'm in his league as far as cash game poker.
furyshade
04-13-2007, 10:55 PM
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Adanthar has an image of being [censored] great, yet for some reason I have an image of sucking. I watched the USPC, I watched how all those young internet players play and I play exactly like them. I might not be able to put into words or describe lines as good as Adanthar but I'm in his league as far as cash game poker.
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then explain why adanthar plays 10/20 and you play 1/2?
also, seriously how can you think watching people on tv gives you an idea of how you compare to someone.
chrismystero
04-13-2007, 10:58 PM
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Adanthar has an image of being [censored] great, yet for some reason I have an image of sucking. I watched the USPC, I watched how all those young internet players play and I play exactly like them. I might not be able to put into words or describe lines as good as Adanthar but I'm in his league as far as cash game poker.
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does anyone else see this is as a challenge and should be settled HU for ROllz?
FGators
04-13-2007, 10:58 PM
Because he has run well in tournaments when he has had the best hand. I, on the other hand, get AK in versus AQ every time and they hit 3 outers.
He's better than me but it's not like it's David vs Golaith.
FGators
04-13-2007, 10:59 PM
Im not stubborn. I don't just post in this thread and then go off playing. I read threads here and try to get better but I still find myself in the same spots...getting it in good against lucky idiots.
chrismystero
04-13-2007, 11:00 PM
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I on the other hand, get AK in versus AQ every time and they hit 3 outers.
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If I was smart enough to know how to post pictures I would post a picture of a hand holding a tiny violin
chrismystero
04-13-2007, 11:07 PM
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Im not stubborn. I don't just post in this thread and then go off playing. I read threads here and try to get better but I still find myself in the same spots...getting it in good against lucky idiots.
[/ QUOTE ]
perhaps using the Cash Game threads for strategy rather than the BBV threads??
apefish
04-13-2007, 11:11 PM
This thread really confuses me.
Mostly because I thought Nath and or his people were Gildwulf's people. /images/graemlins/confused.gif
adanthar
04-13-2007, 11:30 PM
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Adanthar has an image of being [censored] great, yet for some reason I have an image of sucking. I watched the USPC, I watched how all those young internet players play and I play exactly like them. I might not be able to put into words or describe lines as good as Adanthar but I'm in his league as far as cash game poker.
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no, you really don't play 'exactly like them'. and as I've told you before, it has nothing to do with being unlucky. you have fundamental leaks and you have *never*, in all the time you've asked me for anything, had a plan for how to play a hand over multiple streets in the future. you do things because you're supposed to do them, but you don't understand why you're supposed to, and until you get that you will never be good at poker.
but you don't get what I'm saying and you think it's all BS, so go ahead and keep 12 tabling for 0.5BB/100 with a standard deviation of 15/100 while not getting any better ever. good luck with that.
furyshade
04-13-2007, 11:38 PM
is fgators for real?
Spechel EDD
04-13-2007, 11:47 PM
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12 tabling for 0.5BB/100 with a standard deviation of 15/100 while not getting any better ever. good luck with that.
[/ QUOTE ]
IS THIS PROFITABLE
Big Poppa Smurf
04-13-2007, 11:55 PM
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is fgators for real?
[/ QUOTE ]
I'm starting to think he's a troll incredibly dedicated to the art of trolling.
holyfield5
04-14-2007, 12:15 AM
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is fgators for real?
[/ QUOTE ]
I'm starting to think he's a troll incredibly dedicated to the art of trolling.
[/ QUOTE ]
whichever way you look at it, still makes him a BBV legend
iron81
04-14-2007, 12:25 AM
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If I was smart enough to know how to post pictures I would post a picture of a hand holding a tiny violin
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http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y49/pspauld/tinyviolin.jpg
furyshade
04-14-2007, 12:30 AM
i think adanthar created fgators as an alter ego to teach everyone how not to handle poker
SEABEAST
04-14-2007, 12:51 AM
i love you fgators
TheFaucet
04-14-2007, 02:22 AM
why does this FGators guy cry so much, I've lost way more money than this guy this year
bills217
04-14-2007, 02:45 AM
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i think adanthar created fgators as an alter ego to teach everyone how not to handle poker
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This would make sense.
It has always been odd to me that FGators generally makes coherent sentences, uses paragraphs, has some sense of basic punctuation, etc. Typically those of his ilk type in one big long incoherent blob with no capitalization or punctuation.
Or would adanthar mess up the punctuation on purpose? Or would he not, expecting us to expect him to mess it up on purpose?
I am intrigued by this possibility.
bills217
04-14-2007, 02:50 AM
I mean, come on, we're supposed to expect a real poster to say this:
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If I didnt' run so bad I would have won over a half million dollars by now; I can't stop thinking about that.
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I think adanthar may have pushed it too far with that one.
Also notice how he is not anxious at all to challenge FGators to headsup4rolls, even after the way FGators has been talking smack to him.
FGators
04-14-2007, 03:10 AM
Adanthar and I are real close friends. Real close friends don't take each other's rolls.
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I woke up and looked at these hands again...
..it's like you purposefully devise ways to get 1/3 of your stack in bad so you can make the 'tough' fold or 'pot odds' call with multiple overcards on board or drawing dead
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You really talk a big game for a guy thats too scared to play cash or poker much at all.
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This is the dumbest thing you've ever said
Upon finishing reading the thread, I find that his subsequent comments were equally as dumb, be they about Adanthar or "aggressive internet pros"
Once again, your problem is that you just don't get it, and your ego will not allow you to accept that you need help and changes to your game, instead you defend your play and your perceived bad luck constantly
If you made a poll about your ability you would recount the votes until you got the answer you wanted.
skillzilla
04-14-2007, 05:22 AM
Riina
04-14-2007, 05:55 AM
Our avatars look to similar, go away /images/graemlins/grin.gif
chrismystero
04-14-2007, 02:08 PM
bump, this thread has been giving me good laughs
Squareview
04-14-2007, 02:56 PM
yea like eagles said, make it 85 to go with AK in a 1-2nl game. kinna funny
goofyballer
04-14-2007, 03:02 PM
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Because he has run well in tournaments when he has had the best hand. I, on the other hand, get AK in versus AQ every time and they hit 3 outers.
He's better than me but it's not like it's David vs Golaith.
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FGators, why haven't you run that "show me how bad I run" software yet?
futuredoc85
04-14-2007, 03:04 PM
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yea like eagles said, make it 85 to go with AK in a 1-2nl game. kinna funny
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eagles >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you and its not close. what stakes do you play again? have you even made it to 1/2? 85 to go is like $7 over pot size and its much better than $38, as is calling.
Eagles
04-14-2007, 03:08 PM
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yea like eagles said, make it 85 to go with AK in a 1-2nl game. kinna funny
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Maybe if I figure out stuff like this I can start beating 1/2NL.
I'd just like to reiterate that I've talked to Adanthar about poker repeatedly and he is clearly smart and knows what he's doing, and FGators' suggestion that the only difference between the two of them is luck is an insult to those of us who put in real time and effort to improve how we play and think about poker
FGators
04-14-2007, 07:27 PM
thats what you don't get...I put in tons of time reading these forums and improving. Just because I bitch doesnt mean I dont try to improve.
Thuey11
04-14-2007, 07:31 PM
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thats what you don't get...I put in tons of time reading these forums and improving. Just because I bitch doesnt mean I dont try to improve.
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your results obviously prove this...
ginko
04-14-2007, 07:45 PM
FGators,
You need to learn frequencies. I play with you sometimes and you are so predictable.
LOL the poll results are hilarious. The one vote for good but unlucky HAs to be FGators.
FGators
04-14-2007, 08:19 PM
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LOL the poll results are hilarious. The one vote for good but unlucky HAs to be FGators.
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Or Adanthar. /images/graemlins/grin.gif
[Phill]
04-14-2007, 08:21 PM
Gators,
Are you a cardrunners member yet?
I never claim to be all that good but im certainly beating 1/2 for a good enough clip whilst screwing up the odd hand here and there because of that site.
Im also 100% sure that my subscription will help me develop into a pretty damn good NL player over the next few months.
All for like $150 for 6 months or something stupidly low like that.
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holyfield5
04-14-2007, 09:37 PM
150 for six months after you pay 150 start up, grrrr
Riina
04-15-2007, 03:31 AM
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150 for six months after you pay 150 start up, grrrr
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agreed, the ridiculous "subscriptionfee" pisses me off /images/graemlins/mad.gif
Fat Nicky
04-15-2007, 03:49 AM
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150 for six months after you pay 150 start up, grrrr
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agreed, the ridiculous "subscriptionfee" pisses me off /images/graemlins/mad.gif
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lol at people complaining about the cardrunners prices
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