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ciki57
04-11-2007, 11:55 AM
I played around of 75K of NL hands in my career. The fist 70K I was winning around 5BB/100 on Party NL50 and NL100. I had some standard downswings but I always bounced back. Nothing serious.

But this month its getting ridiculous. Before the swing I had just around 1000K left because of cashout and had to move from NL100 quickly after that 4 buying swing. 50NL was not much better so I decided to play some NL25 while i run bad.

But that was just a beginning....
It ridiculous how bad I run on Party NL25:
When I get the money in its either suckout (flopped flush is no good against bottom two pair) or some sick cooler. I lost FOUR buyins in these 5K hands when i went all in PF with KK and villain had AA. What are the odds of that??? And when I got it in with AA vs 77 seven falls on the flop %$#%%#$%%%#%%#$%#$
Oh,... and I don't remeber when was the last time I won a pot with flopped top pair. Seriousy .. I've never seen so many turned/rivered two pairs.

http://shrani.si/files/downswingxx9h.jpg

Are downswings like that (-15 buyins) standard? When can I expect it to end...


BEAT: -23BB/100 on Party NL25

BRAG: The good thing is that i cashed out most of the money before downswing and had only a little over $1000 left. I would loose a lot more if I continued to play on NL100...

VARIANCE: I have 300 left and I'm playing NL25 when I could be making monies on NL100


P.S. Is there a chance that I suck at poker and was just running extremly hot for 70K hands?

OHFreak
04-11-2007, 11:58 AM
blah blah blah 5k hands is nothing blah blah blah standrard blah blah blah

Orlando Salazar
04-11-2007, 12:00 PM
you prolly don't suck (except at NL 100 where your river aggro factor is too high). From the stats i see, you're a pretty much breakeven a tag who ran hot and is now runnning bad.

effinA
04-11-2007, 12:01 PM
wow!....best advice ever: QUIT NOW WHILE YOU MAY HAVE A LIFE(im assuming)!

and if not, its gonna get so much worse its not even funny....

DannyOcean_
04-11-2007, 12:03 PM
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you prolly don't suck (except at NL 100 where your river aggro factor is too high). From the stats i see, you're a pretty much breakeven a tag who ran hot and is now runnning bad.

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ummmm he plays on party poker. any halfway non braindead chimp can play any form of tag and win on party.

snoop01
04-11-2007, 12:04 PM
what is that graph (software)?

Thanks

ciki57
04-11-2007, 12:06 PM
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what is that graph (software)?

Thanks

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http://www.pokertracker.com/

Zaid_Ahmed
04-11-2007, 12:07 PM
SALAZARRRRRR!!!!

SlickVic
04-11-2007, 12:07 PM
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what is that graph (software)?

Thanks

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That be Pokertracker. Oh and this is standard, cue the walrus pic.

OHFreak
04-11-2007, 12:12 PM
Also, you still don't know what it means to run bad.

Just a headsup.

ciki57
04-11-2007, 12:18 PM
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Also, you still don't know what it means to run bad.

Just a headsup.

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So what counts as bad then? -30 Buyins? More?

SkeetyMcdoogle
04-11-2007, 12:18 PM
Last night I lost $240 dollars on $10 and $25 dollars flips and even I KNOW that that isn't even running bad its just cus im gay irl

JoseGonzlez
04-11-2007, 12:19 PM
son u dont what its like to run bad.

running bad is when you smash your monitor. smash your desk in half and still keep losing for another week.

give me a call in about a month wipe.

morphball
04-11-2007, 12:24 PM
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Are downswings like that (-15 buyins) standard? When can I expect it to end...


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These things are very shortlived, you will win a few buy-ins and end this 15 buy-in downswing. Then you will begin a new 10 buy-in downswing, bringing your total loss to 22 buy-ins. Then you will get even after 30K hands and feel good only to commence another 10 buy-in drop.

dchz
04-11-2007, 12:27 PM
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Are downswings like that (-15 buyins) standard? When can I expect it to end...


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These things are very shortlived, you will win a few buy-ins and end this 15 buy-in downswing. Then you will begin a new 10 buy-in downswing, bringing your total loss to 22 buy-ins. Then you will get even after 30K hands and feel good only to commence another 10 buy-in drop.

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yeah this is normal, but you know you will end up on top

if you don't like swings play nit....

Zaid_Ahmed
04-11-2007, 12:28 PM
Play on Pokerstars. then you will understand a downswing. It's the only site where AK Vs an underpair preflop is a 70-30. Currently banned myself from that site for 180 days.

dchz
04-11-2007, 12:28 PM
by normal i mean we all play bad enough sometimes to do this,

but i honestly haven't had that big of a swing (-30)

but i've had -20 buy in swings at NL100 and that doesn't feel too good

modnareno
04-11-2007, 12:29 PM
you lost a buy in?

dchz
04-11-2007, 12:29 PM
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Play on Pokerstars. then you will understand a downswing. It's the only site where AK Vs an underpair preflop is a 70-30. Currently banned myself from that site for 180 days.

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now you are just lying to yourself,

Zaid_Ahmed
04-11-2007, 12:32 PM
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Play on Pokerstars. then you will understand a downswing. It's the only site where AK Vs an underpair preflop is a 70-30. Currently banned myself from that site for 180 days.

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now you are just lying to yourself,

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You can actually ban yourself through the site. 175 days to go.

dchz
04-11-2007, 12:34 PM
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Play on Pokerstars. then you will understand a downswing. It's the only site where AK Vs an underpair preflop is a 70-30. Currently banned myself from that site for 180 days.

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now you are just lying to yourself,

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You can actually ban yourself through the site. 175 days to go.

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well what i really meant was the 70-30 part

Zaid_Ahmed
04-11-2007, 12:36 PM
typo, more like 80-20

snoop01
04-11-2007, 12:38 PM
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what is that graph (software)?

Thanks

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That be Pokertracker. Oh and this is standard, cue the walrus pic.

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So is this software ok to use on PokerStars?? (without any trouble that is)

Also slickVic, I too am from PSU.

GO STATE!!!

catcher193
04-11-2007, 12:54 PM
chicken pot pie is nasty

iponnet
04-11-2007, 12:58 PM
I have had the problem of having KK in LP and one of the blinds or button waking up with AAs 4times in my last 5K hands also, the worst part is the last 5K hands are my first 5K hands at NL200 the good part is I only lost 2buyins ins without sucking out a K in all 4 situations but still I am down like 3BIs since I moved up I am really having a tough time believing the RNG on stars is working correctly

no I am not gona say the R word its just defective /images/graemlins/smile.gif

pdoran10
04-11-2007, 01:00 PM
you must suck after the flop.