Biggest pot of my life (Bonus: against Ivey)

[KingNeo]

Brag # 1: It was off Ivey

Brag # 2: It was for ~$30k.

Full Tilt Poker Game #2183998388: Table Bennett (6 max) - $200/$400 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:40:09 ET - 2007/04/11
Seat 1: Luigi66369 ($56,390)
Seat 2: 93TilInfinity ($4,000)
Seat 3: Im2Fast ($40,000), is sitting out
Seat 4: NMDynasty ($14,597)
Seat 5: Asiandude7 ($8,266.35)
Seat 6: Phil Ivey ($33,991)
Asiandude7 posts the small blind of $200
Phil Ivey posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NMDynasty [Kc Ac]
Luigi66369 folds
93TilInfinity folds
NMDynasty raises to $1,400
Asiandude7 folds
Phil Ivey raises to $4,400
NMDynasty raises to $14,597, and is all in
Phil Ivey calls $10,197
NMDynasty shows [Kc Ac]
Phil Ivey shows [Ah 9c]
*** FLOP *** [Js 2s Ks]
*** TURN *** [Js 2s Ks] [6d]
*** RIVER *** [Js 2s Ks 6d] [Jd]
NMDynasty shows two pair, Kings and Jacks
Phil Ivey shows a pair of Jacks
NMDynasty wins the pot ($29,391) with two pair, Kings and Jacks
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $29,394 | Rake $3
Board: [Js 2s Ks 6d Jd]
Seat 1: Luigi66369 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: 93TilInfinity didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: Im2Fast is sitting out
Seat 4: NMDynasty (button) showed [Kc Ac] and won ($29,391) with two pair, Kings and Jacks
Seat 5: Asiandude7 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: Phil Ivey (big blind) showed [Ah 9c] and lost with a pair of Jacks

[TheWorstPlayer]

How did you find Ivey just after he hit the crack pipe? Nice job!

[SkeetyMcdoogle]

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How did you find Ivey just after he hit the crack pipe? Nice job!

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RACIST BAN

[ImsaKidd]

Zomg sum1 is shortstacking call the ethics police!

[demon102]

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How did you find Ivey just after he hit the crack pipe? Nice job!

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RACIST BAN

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nothing racist in there so u should be BANNED!!!

[Curtrosity]

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Zomg sum1 is shortstacking call the ethics police!

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AND he left right after this hand.

[MasterLJ]

Holy crap, Ivey played that so bad.

Nh.

[ASPoker8]

balla

[kuelk420]

no, he left after his 8's held up to iveys 4's preflop, unless neo came back for more

[ikestoys]

its hard to complain about someone shortstacking when they have 15k on the table

[KingNeo]

Yeah i was shortstacking with 8k


Sitting with 15k is not really shortstacking.

[steel108]

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Holy crap, Ivey played that so bad.

Nh.

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Most people play bad vs shortstacks. If he had a full stack or close, Ivey doesn't go past PF

[TyFuji]

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Holy crap, Ivey played that so bad.

Nh.

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Most people play bad vs shortstacks. If he had a full stack or close, Ivey doesn't go past PF

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Buying in short is a tactical advantage, but is still mad annoying

[drexah]

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How did you find Ivey just after he hit the vapo? Nice job!

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[IronFly]

shortstack cost you 19k bro. Take those pros to the cleaners!

[bigt439]

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Holy crap, Ivey played that so bad.

Nh.

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Most people play bad vs shortstacks. If he had a full stack or close, Ivey doesn't go past PF

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honestly, this hand is just horrific by ivey.

just blows my mind... learn how to play against shortstacks for [censored] sake.

[Pog0]

gah, wtf, get out of my NL$1k games then if you're a superstar.

[KRANTZ]

ship itttt

[Python49]

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Holy crap, Ivey played that so bad.

Nh.

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Most people play bad vs shortstacks. If he had a full stack or close, Ivey doesn't go past PF

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honestly, this hand is just horrific by ivey.

just blows my mind... learn how to play against shortstacks for [censored] sake.

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You don't actually think he made this call thinking it was +EV do you? He probably felt like gambling against a short stack. You think he plays craps expecting to win? He has the heart of a gambler.

[jiacstrap]

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Holy crap, Ivey played that so bad.

Nh.

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Most people play bad vs shortstacks. If he had a full stack or close, Ivey doesn't go past PF

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honestly, this hand is just horrific by ivey.

just blows my mind... learn how to play against shortstacks for [censored] sake.

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You don't actually think he made this call thinking it was +EV do you? He probably felt like gambling against a short stack. You think he plays craps expecting to win? He has the heart of a gambler.

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Yea im pretty sure Ivey wasn't thinking about +EV situations here, this is him gambling....

[apefish]

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He has the heart of a gambler.

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I've heard he has it framed on the wall.
[censored] ebay has everything.

[[Phill]]

You guys realise the way they play NL holdem in the big game he is one of the better short stack players in the world.

In the big game they play something like 2k/4k blinds and a 100k cap.

To simply excuse Iveys play as him not being good in short stack situations is ludicrous.

He was either gambling it up, tilting still from watching Yukon Brad bluff him on HSP or he had some kind of other read from playing with random dudes who like to take shots with the 'master' for their 15 minutes of fame or something hero had done in a previous hand.

[BalugaWhale]

did you hit a big tourny score or something?
i played 400nl with you a lot not that long ago right?

[killsadie]

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How did you find Ivey just after he hit the crack pipe? Nice job!

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5/5

[ginko]

How is Iveys play bad? He reraises preflop which is his style and is a move that works for him, KingNeo push's, the pot is offering 2-1, he has A9 which is a not a great hand but he only needs to win the pot once out of three times to break even.

A9 vs 88-22: 42% equity
A9 vs AK-AT: 22% equity
A9 vs KK-TT: 28% equity

As you guys can see he actually has quite a bit of equity in this pot, also factor in the times short stacks push with weaker hands like A2s or KQ or something along those lines makes can make this a call.

He probably wants to bust the short stack and isnt afraid to double him up because he expects to win this money back assuming its not a hit and run. Also good for his image. Also he likes to gamble.

[lyncks2002]

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How is Iveys play bad? He reraises preflop which is his style and is a move that works for him, KingNeo push's, the pot is offering 2-1, he has A9 which is a not a great hand but he only needs to win the pot once out of three times to break even.

A9 vs 88-22: 42% equity
A9 vs AK-AT: 22% equity
A9 vs KK-TT: 28% equity

As you guys can see he actually has quite a bit of equity in this pot, also factor in the times short stacks push with weaker hands like A2s or KQ or something along those lines makes can make this a call.

He probably wants to bust the short stack and isnt afraid to double him up because he expects to win this money back assuming its not a hit and run. Also good for his image. Also he likes to gamble.

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wow, you think too much sir! this is BBV, no thinking please (well, only through MSPainting).

[ICallHimGamblor]

I saw you go all in with A3o and lose your stack to Ivey when he called with A9s. How long after that hand was this? I bet Ivey remembered you going all in with goofy hands before this and decided to look you up.

Congrats on the big win.

[luckyjimm]

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I saw you go all in with A3o and lose your stack to Ivey when he called with A9s. How long after that hand was this? I bet Ivey remembered you going all in with goofy hands before this and decided to look you up.

Congrats on the big win.

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So how much did OP win in the game?

[johnnyrocket]

lol, beat: it was less than half ivey stack at the table

[XXXNoahXXX]

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How did you find Ivey just after he hit the crack pipe? Nice job!

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RACIST BAN

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Ummm not racist because black people only smoke crack in rap songs.....they've moved on to crystal meth.

[New2NL]

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How did you find Ivey just after he hit the crack pipe? Nice job!

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RACIST BAN

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Ummm not racist because black people only smoke crack in rap songs.....they've moved on to crystal meth.

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ZOMG upper level racisim, Ban

[silvermark]

Cool you now own part of Ivey's stack.

[luckyjimm]

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Cool you now own part of the change from down back of Ivey's sofa.

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[TheWorstPlayer]

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How is Iveys play bad? He reraises preflop which is his style and is a move that works for him, KingNeo push's, the pot is offering 2-1, he has A9 which is a not a great hand but he only needs to win the pot once out of three times to break even.

A9 vs 88-22: 42% equity
A9 vs AK-AT: 22% equity
A9 vs KK-TT: 28% equity

As you guys can see he actually has quite a bit of equity in this pot, also factor in the times short stacks push with weaker hands like A2s or KQ or something along those lines makes can make this a call.

He probably wants to bust the short stack and isnt afraid to double him up because he expects to win this money back assuming its not a hit and run. Also good for his image. Also he likes to gamble.

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I dont know if you're serious or not, but my guess is that reraising KN here with A9 is -EV (obv no justification that it's "his style" - who cares) and that calling the push is also -EV, given KN's likely hand range.

[THEOSU]

OP,

i don't blame you for short stacking this game with a juicy lineup.

[NajdorfDefense]

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How did you find Ivey just after he hit the crack pipe? Nice job!

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5/5

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[LyinKing]

Looks like Ivey might've had the right idea:

Full Tilt Poker Game #2186999384: Table Canfield (6 max) - $200/$400 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:43:50 ET - 2007/04/11
Seat 2: NMDynasty ($7,400)
Seat 3: Phil Ivey ($27,597.50)
Seat 5: Luigi66369 ($52,997.50)
Seat 6: jinsokkp ($48,397)
Phil Ivey posts the small blind of $200
Luigi66369 posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
jinsokkp folds
NMDynasty raises to $1,400
Phil Ivey raises to $4,600
Luigi66369 folds
NMDynasty raises to $7,400, and is all in
Phil Ivey calls $2,800
NMDynasty shows [As 5c]
Phil Ivey shows [Ac 8s]
*** FLOP *** [Qs 9d 6c]
*** TURN *** [Qs 9d 6c] [6d]
*** RIVER *** [Qs 9d 6c 6d] [7c]
NMDynasty shows a pair of Sixes
Phil Ivey shows a pair of Sixes
Phil Ivey ties for the pot ($7,599) with a pair of Sixes
NMDynasty ties for the pot ($7,599) with a pair of Sixes
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $15,200 | Rake $2
Board: [Qs 9d 6c 6d 7c]
Seat 2: NMDynasty (button) showed [As 5c] and won ($7,599) with a pair of Sixes
Seat 3: Phil Ivey (small blind) showed [Ac 8s] and won ($7,599) with a pair of Sixes
Seat 5: Luigi66369 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: jinsokkp didn't bet (folded)

[KingNeo]

YAY.

Did it again today.

Brag: I win.

Beat: I'm a loser because my wins dont even total a full buyin for the 2/4 game.

Full Tilt Poker Game #2187055175: Table Canfield (6 max) - $200/$400 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:54:30 ET - 2007/04/11
Seat 2: NMDynasty ($8,599)
Seat 3: Phil Ivey ($33,795)
Seat 5: Luigi66369 ($43,395.50)
Phil Ivey posts the small blind of $200
Luigi66369 posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NMDynasty [8s As]
NMDynasty raises to $1,400
Phil Ivey raises to $4,600
Luigi66369 has 15 seconds left to act
Luigi66369 is sitting out
Luigi66369 has timed out
Luigi66369 folds
NMDynasty raises to $8,599, and is all in
Phil Ivey calls $3,999
NMDynasty shows [8s As]
Phil Ivey shows [Qs Ks]
*** FLOP *** [7d Jc Td]
*** TURN *** [7d Jc Td] [2d]
*** RIVER *** [7d Jc Td 2d] [Th]
NMDynasty shows a pair of Tens
Phil Ivey shows a pair of Tens
NMDynasty wins the pot ($17,597) with a pair of Tens
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $17,598 | Rake $1
Board: [7d Jc Td 2d Th]
Seat 2: NMDynasty (button) showed [8s As] and won ($17,597) with a pair of Tens
Seat 3: Phil Ivey (small blind) showed [Qs Ks] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 5: Luigi66369 (big blind) folded before the Flop

[SkeetyMcdoogle]

god shortstacking is so annoying if i lost 5K+ to one COMMENCE LIFE TILT

[KingNeo]

btw my post yesterday was simply stating that it was the biggest pot I won.

Prior to that hand I think I was down $14k or so in that game. I ended the day up $15k in that game.

[RayPowers]

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NMDynasty shows [8s As]
Phil Ivey shows [Qs Ks]
*** FLOP *** [7d Jc Td]

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Did you poop your pants right there?

Ray

[biblesalesman]

why do you play this game kingneo? It's gotta be the worst case of ev- you'll ever encounter...

[Pudge714]

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why do you play this game kingneo? It's gotta be the worst case of ev- you'll ever encounter...

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lol. People adjust horribly to short stacks and it's easy to do it profitably. It is really gambly and high variance and he has no soul because he short stacks, but it is definitely +EV.

[bigt439]

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You guys realise the way they play NL holdem in the big game he is one of the better short stack players in the world.

In the big game they play something like 2k/4k blinds and a 100k cap.

To simply excuse Iveys play as him not being good in short stack situations is ludicrous.

He was either gambling it up, tilting still from watching Yukon Brad bluff him on HSP or he had some kind of other read from playing with random dudes who like to take shots with the 'master' for their 15 minutes of fame or something hero had done in a previous hand.

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you can make up any reason you want for it, but this play is [censored] awful. if ivey is prone to do so whether it be because of tilt, heart of gambler, or fairies telling him to do so it bodes well for those playing with him.

[luckyjimm]

I understand why you do it, but why not at least make sure you have AA/KK next time?

[ginko]

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How is Iveys play bad? He reraises preflop which is his style and is a move that works for him, KingNeo push's, the pot is offering 2-1, he has A9 which is a not a great hand but he only needs to win the pot once out of three times to break even.

A9 vs 88-22: 42% equity
A9 vs AK-AT: 22% equity
A9 vs KK-TT: 28% equity

As you guys can see he actually has quite a bit of equity in this pot, also factor in the times short stacks push with weaker hands like A2s or KQ or something along those lines makes can make this a call.

He probably wants to bust the short stack and isnt afraid to double him up because he expects to win this money back assuming its not a hit and run. Also good for his image. Also he likes to gamble.

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I dont know if you're serious or not, but my guess is that reraising KN here with A9 is -EV (obv no justification that it's "his style" - who cares) and that calling the push is also -EV, given KN's likely hand range.

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Huh?? Are you saying A9 isnt ahead of Neo's range? You guys are acting like this is some horrible play, but its very clear that Neo is playing loose aggressive which means hes raising with FAR FAR more than AA-TT AK-AQ.

[Irish Mafia]

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NMDynasty shows [8s As]
Phil Ivey shows [Qs Ks]
*** FLOP *** [7d Jc Td]

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Did you poop your pants right there?


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No, but I was - obviously... NH Dynasty - guess this makes up for running horribly at 5-10? And you're now well on your way to a huge April.

[FGators]

lol, Ivey makes a call where he can't beat a hand and people will just discount it 2 days later. Me? I call a minraise with 92 sooted and am immediately labeled a horrible player the rest of my poker career.

[mlagoo]

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lol, Ivey makes a call where he can't beat a hand and people will just discount it 2 days later. Me? I call a minraise with 92 sooted and am immediately labeled a horrible player the rest of my poker career.

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it helped that you went on a 77 buyin "downswing"

[Oxy]

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lol, Ivey makes a call where he can't beat a hand and people will just discount it 2 days later. Me? I call a minraise with 92 sooted and am immediately labeled a horrible player the rest of my poker career.

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It's not that you called a minraise with 92s; it's that you went broke with every other hand BUT 92s that matters.

[KingNeo]

well i tried to ss the big games today again.

ran really poorly.

lost all of the profit i had made and then another 20k or so of my br.

not a huge deal but still hurts.

guess i wont be taking shots in the near future again.

[realjaydub]

Easy come easy go.....

Full Tilt Poker Game #2195862623: Table Canfield (6 max) - $200/$400 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:05:22 ET - 2007/04/12
Seat 2: sbrugby ($42,399)
Seat 3: NMDynasty ($8,000)
Seat 4: Phil Ivey ($79,076.50)
sbrugby posts the small blind of $200
NMDynasty posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
nasy3344 (Observer): this is real money ....retard
Cali Italian (Observer): hey guys try sprinkling kool aid powder on dry top ramen noodles its delicious
Phil Ivey folds
Advance_Luck (Observer): yeah these play mney guys just want fold
sbrugby raises to $1,200
NMDynasty raises to $8,000, and is all in
sbrugby calls $6,800
NMDynasty shows [Td Tc]
sbrugby shows [Ks Qc]
*** FLOP *** [Qh Ac 6s]
*** TURN *** [Qh Ac 6s] [4d]
*** RIVER *** [Qh Ac 6s 4d] [2h]
thebmorekid (Observer): nasy- i mean REAL MONEY, not play money
NMDynasty shows a pair of Tens
sbrugby shows a pair of Queens
sbrugby wins the pot ($15,999) with a pair of Queens
Cali Italian (Observer): THANK U COME AGiAn
NMDynasty is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $16,000 | Rake $1
Board: [Qh Ac 6s 4d 2h]
Seat 2: sbrugby (small blind) showed [Ks Qc] and won ($15,999) with a pair of Queens
Seat 3: NMDynasty (big blind) showed [Td Tc] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 4: Phil Ivey (button) didn't bet (folded)

[realjaydub]

on the contrary to what King said, he's sitting at Canfield $200-$400 with Ivey and Townsend....

Got Game Selection?

[realjaydub]

Hit and Run
Full Tilt Poker Game #2195948481: Table Canfield (6 max) - $200/$400 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:17:39 ET - 2007/04/12
Seat 2: sbrugby ($57,193)
Seat 4: Phil Ivey ($60,876)
Seat 5: NMDynasty ($7,000)
Phil Ivey posts the small blind of $200
NMDynasty posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
sbrugby raises to $1,400
Phil Ivey folds
Likestorm (Observer): I GOT 6 BUCKS
NMDynasty raises to $7,000, and is all in
sbrugby calls $5,600
NMDynasty shows [Jd Kc]
sbrugby shows [7s Ac]
JiMtheDoG (Observer): this reminds me of poker room lobby
*** FLOP *** [6s Jh 3c]
2pacsofcoors (Observer): can u help me out
*** TURN *** [6s Jh 3c] [8h]
slwride (Observer): u would have a bankroll if u could actually turn 6 $ into something
D Zilla (Observer): hit n run
*** RIVER *** [6s Jh 3c 8h] [Qh]
Nippahhhhhhhhhh (Observer): ill proove it to u, get up to 100 again
brian_maximus (Observer): phil your the man
NMDynasty shows a pair of Jacks
sbrugby shows Ace Queen high
NMDynasty wins the pot ($14,199) with a pair of Jacks
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $14,200 | Rake $1
Board: [6s Jh 3c 8h Qh]
Seat 2: sbrugby (button) showed [7s Ac] and lost with Ace Queen high
Seat 4: Phil Ivey (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: NMDynasty (big blind) showed [Jd Kc] and won ($14,199) with a pair of Jacks

[realjaydub]

easy go easy come?

Full Tilt Poker Game #2196117856: Table Canfield (6 max) - $200/$400 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:41:18 ET - 2007/04/12
Seat 2: sbrugby ($109,378)
Seat 4: Phil Ivey ($27,064.50)
Seat 5: NMDynasty ($7,600)
Phil Ivey posts the small blind of $200
NMDynasty posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Nippahhhhhhhhhh (Observer): I asked sum nice guy for it and we went 50/50
sbrugby folds
Yummychic (Observer): east bay gangsta
Cali Italian (Observer): richie rich
Don Ree (Observer): wp
taytay02 (Observer): u should be up over 1000 dollars
Mike5285 (Observer): I THINK I CAN BEAT HIM
Cali Italian (Observer): e feeeeeezy
Phil Ivey raises to $1,200
Nippahhhhhhhhhh (Observer): so i gave him half ot eh 128
NMDynasty calls $800
Yummychic (Observer): 4 sheezzy
*** FLOP *** [8d 7h 6s]
rel8ed2WBH (Observer): anyone can take phil once...but not long term
Mike5285 (Observer): LETS GO PHIL
Phil Ivey bets $1,600
NMDynasty raises to $6,400, and is all in
vegas_storms (Observer): ur a puzzy NMDynasty
Phil Ivey calls $4,800
NMDynasty shows [Ad As]
Phil Ivey shows [Td 8c]
Mike5285 (Observer): PHIL

[KingNeo]

just lost a 60k pot to Benyamine.

back to grinding again.

this blows.

[zeroed out]

I don't know what you were thinking. I saw you play a few hands on FT, doing hit and runs on Ivey and Brian Townsend. I think you got drunk on winning all that money and failed to see the weakness of your strategy.

I can see why you thought you could beat these guys. Forcing the showdown by going allin before the flop takes away the pros advantage of his finesse and greater level of experience. Then, it's just about who has the better hand.

What you forgot I think is that this is just pure gambling. Sooner or later you're going to take a big hit. The difference between you and the pro is that the pro can weather a 60k loss. They have earned the cash to play at that level. I saw Phil Ivey lose over 200k today. He'll probably be back tomorrow with 200 more.

You didn't really beat these guys, you just gambled with them and won some money. You can't play high stakes poker with cash you can't afford to lose. I mean, are you kidding me? These guys are mostly millionaires and blow more in a day than most people will see in 10 years. Even if you think you're as good as they are, which I will not comment on, the cash needed to play with them is a huge barrier of entry.

I'm not saying it can't be done. I'm saying that it's like trying to start a fire in a hurricane. That said, I sympathize with your loss. I wish you the best of luck.

[schundler]

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I don't know what you were thinking. I saw you play a few hands on FT, doing hit and runs on Ivey and Brian Townsend. I think you got drunk on winning all that money and failed to see the weakness of your strategy.

I can see why you thought you could beat these guys. Forcing the showdown by going allin before the flop takes away the pros advantage of his finesse and greater level of experience. Then, it's just about who has the better hand.

What you forgot I think is that this is just pure gambling. Sooner or later you're going to take a big hit. The difference between you and the pro is that the pro can weather a 60k loss. They have earned the cash to play at that level. I saw Phil Ivey lose over 200k today. He'll probably be back tomorrow with 200 more.

You didn't really beat these guys, you just gambled with them and won some money. You can't play high stakes poker with cash you can't afford to lose. I mean, are you kidding me? These guys are mostly millionaires and blow more in a day than most people will see in 10 years. Even if you think you're as good as they are, which I will not comment on, the cash needed to play with them is a huge barrier of entry.

I'm not saying it can't be done. I'm saying that it's like trying to start a fire in a hurricane. That said, I sympathize with your loss. I wish you the best of luck.

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that's some emo [censored] right there. nvg/oot is that way

[skier_5]

impending busto? he's at 200/400 again.

[realjaydub]

Jesus, OP is back at it with Ivey, dude, seriously, when will u learn?

[PoppinFresh]

Full Tilt Poker Game #2198763730: Table Canfield (6 max) - $200/$400 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:38:09 ET - 2007/04/13
Seat 2: NMDynasty ($13,145)
Seat 3: Phil Ivey ($65,839)
Phil Ivey posts the small blind of $200
NMDynasty posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Phil Ivey raises to $1,200
NMDynasty raises to $13,145, and is all in
Phil Ivey calls $11,945
NMDynasty shows [Ah 4h]
Phil Ivey shows [Ac Qd]
*** FLOP *** [6c Qc 9c]
*** TURN *** [6c Qc 9c] [Qh]
*** RIVER *** [6c Qc 9c Qh] [Th]
NMDynasty shows a pair of Queens
Phil Ivey shows three of a kind, Queens
Phil Ivey wins the pot ($26,289.50) with three of a kind, Queens
NMDynasty is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $26,290 | Rake $0.50
Board: [6c Qc 9c Qh Th]
Seat 2: NMDynasty (big blind) showed [Ah 4h] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 3: Phil Ivey (small blind) showed [Ac Qd] and won ($26,289.50) with three of a kind, Queens

Is OP up or down at 200/400 overall?

[realjaydub]

busted again.

[KingNeo]

I am down now overall at 200/400.

The point you don't understand is taht it was me taking a shot at bigger games. I did not do well.

Trust me, it isn't a big deal to me.

Does it sting. SURE IT FN STINGS.

I have made a very significant amount of $ playing poker. What I lost today is just a fraction.

I ran terrible and I was also playing against players who are better than me (and have larger bankrolls than I do).

[realjaydub]

Well then its not big deal, you have the money.....buy back in until you go either robusto or busto.

[KingNeo]

[ QUOTE ]
Well then its not big deal, you have the money.....buy back in until you go either robusto or busto.

[/ QUOTE ]

You are a railbird idiot. Live vicariosuly through someone else.

I am not saying this because I am down $ over the past 24 hours, but I honestly think you are a scumbag loser.

You are more proficient at posting hands that you watch at 2/4 than actually playing .01/.25 NL.

[realjaydub]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Well then its not big deal, you have the money.....buy back in until you go either robusto or busto.

[/ QUOTE ]

You are a railbird idiot. Live vicariosuly through someone else.

I am not saying this because I am down $ over the past 24 hours, but I honestly think you are a scumbag loser.

You are more proficient at posting hands that you watch at 2/4 than actually playing .01/.25 NL.

[/ QUOTE ]


lol

Did I offend you? Should I kiss your a s s because you are a degenerate who gives away thousands to pros?

Listen mr attention whore, "I won the biggest pot of my life"

I didn't creat this thread moron, you did.

I didn't beg you to watch me play mr big time.

[realjaydub]

now go busto or suicide urself asap.

[KingNeo]

I would say u aren't worthy of a response, but I guess I just responded.

Did I just level myself?

Go back to railing games.

[realjaydub]

im not worthy......

Now go create another thread about how your busto because you couldn't keep your big fat ego in check.

"i lost the biggest pot of my life"

[realjaydub]

there is no shame in railing, it's very entertaining and it might save you some money. I'm not the one donating to the richest and best players in poker.

Hey, there is some good out of this, at least you cannot move up stakes to chase your losses......

[KingNeo]

This is my last response to you:

How does it feel to play 0.5/1 NL?

[realjaydub]

[ QUOTE ]
This is my last response to you:

How does it feel to play 0.5/1 NL?

[/ QUOTE ]

Feels fine. How does losing your ass feel?

[0evg0]

can we send realjaydub to p5s yet?

[good2cu]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
This is my last response to you:

How does it feel to play 0.5/1 NL?

[/ QUOTE ]

Feels fine. How does losing your ass feel?

[/ QUOTE ]

Realjaydub you are a [censored] idiot. OP is a pro and surly better at 6max NL Holdem then some of the pros you whorship.

[realjaydub]

oh another holla bolla [censored].

I never once commented on his play you idiots.

I'm sure he is a very good player, he cant help hes an ass hat.

[KingNeo]

I JUST SENT AN EMAIL TO FTP. PLEASE AWAIT RESPONSE ON THIS ENTIRE DEBACLE.

THIS IS A TRAVESTY.

PEOPLE ARE GETTING READY TO LOSE THEIR LIVES.

[censored] EVERYONE.

[0evg0]

[ QUOTE ]
I JUST SEND AN EMAIL TO FTP. PLEASE AWAIT RESPONSE ON THIS ENTIRE DEBACLE.

THIS IS A TRAVESTY.

PEOPLE ARE GETTING READY TO LOSE THEIR LIVES.

[censored] EVERYONE.

[/ QUOTE ]

wtf

[realjaydub]

op drunk or high?

[all_in_lam]

no they play 1000-2000nl when they are playing 4-8k.
and with 40bb.. i.e 80k.. thats why u'll see ivey buyin for 16k at the 2-4 tables

[ QUOTE ]
You guys realise the way they play NL holdem in the big game he is one of the better short stack players in the world.

In the big game they play something like 2k/4k blinds and a 100k cap.

To simply excuse Iveys play as him not being good in short stack situations is ludicrous.

He was either gambling it up, tilting still from watching Yukon Brad bluff him on HSP or he had some kind of other read from playing with random dudes who like to take shots with the 'master' for their 15 minutes of fame or something hero had done in a previous hand.

[/ QUOTE ]

[21SuicideKing21]

yeah i saw this pot, wondering wtf Ivey was thinking, guess he thought u had small pp. nice hand, he always wins in those 70 25 spots.

[shortline99]

i am glad i found this thread. i think.

[TStoneMBD]

the plays HORRIBLE because if ivey gets stacked every time hes dominated vs the shortstack he loses much more money than the amount he makes if the shortstack just folds to the reraise. ivey is probably better off reraising with 9To there then A9o. hes raise/calling a shove with A9o; gross.

[KingNeo]

This the REALY KINGNEO speaking.

Over the past 2 weeks I have short stacked some of the games. Specifically 25/50.

I decided to short stack the BIGGER games including the 200/400 games.

I did this on a sparingly basis and I did it well.

I am not going to get into specifics on here as this will be for the fraud department at Full Tilt poker to sort out.

However, there was a person who accessed my account and dumped money on the tables. This person did NOT DO THIS ON PURPOSE.

I repeat this was not on purpose.

He simply did it to make $ he owed me, andthis was 100% ONE HUNDRED PERECENT AGAINST MY AUTHORITY.

[snagglepuss]

wha?

[KingNeo]

I will not speak on this matter until it is 100% resolved.

I am in the process of resolving it now.

[bottomset]

gl getting everything sorted out

[Rick305]

[ QUOTE ]
This the REALY KINGNEO speaking.


[/ QUOTE ]

lol

[KingNeo]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
This the REALY KINGNEO speaking.


[/ QUOTE ]

lol

[/ QUOTE ]

Irate at its finest. I can't even speak english anymore.

[Exitonly]

wow i already thought it was a good thread, and it looks like its about to become epic. (eh, epic was a bit strong, but someone going on his account against his will, to short stack vs phil ivey and aba is a strong base for thread)

[Bakes]

what kind of epic? at this point i'm guessing the Epic of Busto.

[billyjex]

[ QUOTE ]
its about to become epic.

[/ QUOTE ]

[Python49]

I'm confused. Did he also go on your 2p2 account and post the brag that he won the biggest pot of your life?

[shawny boy]

lol, this is good stuff. he clearly also spoof posted on 2+2 to cover his tracks.

life tilt is kinda fun to watch. gl in the afterlife (http://www.amazon.com/Final-Exit-Third-Practicalities-Self-Deliverance/dp/0385336535/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-3021407-7084912?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1176477346&sr=8-1)

[luckyjimm]

[ QUOTE ]
This the REALY KINGNEO speaking.

Over the past 2 weeks I have short stacked some of the games. Specifically 25/50.

I decided to short stack the BIGGER games including the 200/400 games.

I did this on a sparingly basis and I did it well.

I am not going to get into specifics on here as this will be for the fraud department at Full Tilt poker to sort out.

However, there was a person who accessed my account and dumped money on the tables. This person did NOT DO THIS ON PURPOSE.

I repeat this was not on purpose.

He simply did it to make $ he owed me, andthis was 100% ONE HUNDRED PERECENT AGAINST MY AUTHORITY.

[/ QUOTE ]


Eh, how does that fit in with this?

"As many of you know my screen name on Full Tilt Poker is NMDynasty. My account is currently undergoing a Fraud investigation for unauthorized activity.

I do not want to get into the specifics of the case currently as I will let the Full Tilt Fraud team investigate the matter.

Essentially what happened was my computer was stolen and my account was logged into. Approximately $70,000-$80,000 was dumped onto the tables.

I have recently taken shots at some of the bigger games so this will make the investigation slightly more complex, however it should be EXTREMELY apparent that I was not playing on the account during the time of the fradulent activity.

I was able to get the HHs of the hands played and it is EXTEMELY obvious it was not me playing. There are even several hands of 100/200 PLO in which the person was going all in preflop with garbage hands for $4,000 stacks at a time. Completely inconsistent with my normal account activity considering I never play PLO.

Full Tilt has been professional to this point dealing with this case. Hopefully things get resolved and justice is served.

I plan to update this thread as I receive information. I have choosen to make this public as there are many of you with $10,000s-$100,000s in your Full Tilt accounts. I want to make sure everyone is as protected as possible. "

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...0&fpart=all (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=plnlpoker&Number=9933775& page=0&fpart=all)

[canis582]

So your password was saved on your cpu? lol.

Not epic, just retardo.

[good2cu]

This is so weird as I was playing with Dyanstany in the 200/400 games and the 5/10nl games when this happened and it appeared he was being his usual nit self. This is gonna be a good story...

[PoppinFresh]

[ QUOTE ]
I'm confused. Did he also go on your 2p2 account and post the brag that he won the biggest pot of your life?

[/ QUOTE ]

[realjaydub]

OMG!

So the realkingneo, you're not the one who initially insulted me?

If so, I take back any negative comments towards you.

I think we could all possibly be getting leveled.

[realjaydub]

Also, it appears you know the person who frauded you stating he was trying to win money he owed you?

[rageotones]

[ QUOTE ]
easy go easy come?

Full Tilt Poker Game #2196117856: Table Canfield (6 max) - $200/$400 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:41:18 ET - 2007/04/12
Seat 2: sbrugby ($109,378)
Seat 4: Phil Ivey ($27,064.50)
Seat 5: NMDynasty ($7,600)
Phil Ivey posts the small blind of $200
NMDynasty posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Nippahhhhhhhhhh (Observer): I asked sum nice guy for it and we went 50/50
sbrugby folds
Yummychic (Observer): east bay gangsta
Cali Italian (Observer): richie rich
Don Ree (Observer): wp
taytay02 (Observer): u should be up over 1000 dollars
Mike5285 (Observer): I THINK I CAN BEAT HIM
Cali Italian (Observer): e feeeeeezy
Phil Ivey raises to $1,200
Nippahhhhhhhhhh (Observer): so i gave him half ot eh 128
NMDynasty calls $800
Yummychic (Observer): 4 sheezzy
*** FLOP *** [8d 7h 6s]
rel8ed2WBH (Observer): anyone can take phil once...but not long term
Mike5285 (Observer): LETS GO PHIL
Phil Ivey bets $1,600
NMDynasty raises to $6,400, and is all in
vegas_storms (Observer): ur a puzzy NMDynasty
Phil Ivey calls $4,800
NMDynasty shows [Ad As]
Phil Ivey shows [Td 8c]
Mike5285 (Observer): PHIL

[/ QUOTE ]

i think i've picked up a read

[ciki57]

[ QUOTE ]
This the REALY KINGNEO speaking.

Over the past 2 weeks I have short stacked some of the games. Specifically 25/50.

I decided to short stack the BIGGER games including the 200/400 games.

I did this on a sparingly basis and I did it well.

I am not going to get into specifics on here as this will be for the fraud department at Full Tilt poker to sort out.

However, there was a person who accessed my account and dumped money on the tables. This person did NOT DO THIS ON PURPOSE.

I repeat this was not on purpose.

He simply did it to make $ he owed me, andthis was 100% ONE HUNDRED PERECENT AGAINST MY AUTHORITY.

[/ QUOTE ]

Wow this guy is good! He hacked your FTP AND 2+2 account! I don't think you will get your monies back, this guy took care of everything.

[oober]

The writing styles sure seem like they are the same person.

This is getting interesting.

[Kyle]

would the real kingneo please stand up?

[realjaydub]

Any updates?

[Python49]

KingNeo,

I once thought of doing this myself too but didn't have the balls to try it out. (taking a shot at high stakes and gambling up then if losing reporting that your account was hacked). You were kind of sloppy implementing it but I hope it works out anyhow.

[chrismystero]

hmmmm....saying my account was hacked...

i didnt know making up excuses for sucking at poker could be so easy!

[chicagoY]

wow, congratulations indeed.

[greg nice]

[ QUOTE ]
This the REALY KINGNEO speaking.

Over the past 2 weeks I have short stacked some of the games. Specifically 25/50.

I decided to short stack the BIGGER games including the 200/400 games.

I did this on a sparingly basis and I did it well.

I am not going to get into specifics on here as this will be for the fraud department at Full Tilt poker to sort out.

However, there was a person who accessed my account and dumped money on the tables. This person did NOT DO THIS ON PURPOSE.

I repeat this was not on purpose.

He simply did it to make $ he owed me, andthis was 100% ONE HUNDRED PERECENT AGAINST MY AUTHORITY.

[/ QUOTE ]


full tilt owes you nothing.

take responsibility for YOUR fucck up

[Triumph36]

[ QUOTE ]
KingNeo,

I once thought of doing this myself too but didn't have the balls to try it out. (taking a shot at high stakes and gambling up then if losing reporting that your account was hacked). You were kind of sloppy implementing it but I hope it works out anyhow.

[/ QUOTE ]

lol owned.