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mterry
01-04-2006, 02:46 AM
First hand at this table:

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (10 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter (http://www.pokerhand.org)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif. Hero posts a blind of $5.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, Hero (poster) calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (13.40 SB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, MP1 folds, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button calls, MP3 calls.

sharpie
01-04-2006, 02:55 AM
Raise the flop and hope button 3 bets.

ChipsAhoya
01-04-2006, 02:56 AM
Yep, get the raise in now before a scare card cools the PFRs on the turn, and while you're only behind to QQ.

-ChipsAhoya

TRD23
01-04-2006, 03:01 AM
I dont understand the cold-call preflop with only 2 players in. Only if the table was very loose preflop and I am positive at least 2 or more people are going to come in after me could I even think about cold calling this.

Why arent you raising the flop? Was the plan to call and check raise the turn on a non-scare card but when the button raises you decide to raise it up now?

I am a little confused on your thinking for this hand. I would have folded this pre-flop but if I called, I am raising the flop every time here.

Can you give me an idea on your thinking?

mterry
01-04-2006, 03:02 AM
You're saying bottom two on this board too vulnerable for a call/reraise?

If button three-bets is this auto-cap? what about call and c/r safe turn?

TRD23
01-04-2006, 03:10 AM
Its not so much its too vulnerable for a call/reraise its that you are not often going to get the opportunity to do it. I mean if you KNOW the button is going to raise then I think its fine but I dont see how with enough reliablity you can expect the button to raise unless he is a maniac.

If you had have raised and got 3 bet, I like call, c/r safe turn, otherwise calling down.

mterry
01-04-2006, 03:13 AM
PF: I didn't cold-call as I had already posted in the cutoff.
FLOP: I put button on a premium holding after his flop three-bet. I knew he would raise so I wanted to get the most value with a call/reraise.

Alexthegreat
01-04-2006, 03:34 AM
Preflop is standard to me.

I really like the way you played the flop. I still think you could check raise a safe turn card as well. The button looks like he has AA-TT/AK/AQ/KQ here and it's likely he will bet all those hands except AK if he is checked to.

mack848
01-04-2006, 05:08 AM
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Preflop is standard to me.

I really like the way you played the flop. I still think you could check raise a safe turn card as well. The button looks like he has AA-TT/AK/AQ/KQ here and it's likely he will bet all those hands except AK if he is checked to.

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I rarely check the turn after 3 betting the flop (unless it's capped). I want to guarantee that the turn isn't checked through when I have the best hand.

mterry
01-04-2006, 05:38 AM
Do you mean c/r turn after I call/3-bet, or instead?

mack848
01-04-2006, 05:47 AM
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Do you mean c/r turn after I call/3-bet, or instead?

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I don't want to speak for Alex, but I took it to mean for you to c/r after your c/3bet.

SackUp
01-04-2006, 05:55 AM
I'd raise the flop. Your hand is vulnerable to lots of draws - FD, Gut shots and being counterfeited.