I havent played very well here. Perhaps I can buy my way out? (50)

[ama0330]

Not too happy about this hand. Let me know what you guys think.

Villain is 44/9/1.3 and I dont have any non-stats reads on him as such.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
5 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $19.25
CO: $67.45
Hero: $52.90
SB: $62.55
BB: $53.80

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif T/images/graemlins/spade.gif
UTG folds, CO calls, Hero calls, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $3</font>, BB folds, CO calls, Hero calls.

Flop: 6/images/graemlins/club.gif 5/images/graemlins/club.gif 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($9.5, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $5</font>, Hero calls, SB folds.

Turn: 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($19.5, 2 players)
CO checks, Hero...

[boycalledroy]

Problem is you have no information, a bet of 5 into a pot like that seems like a blocking bet. You could probably muscle him out of a flush draw and a straight draw here. I don't think he is overly strong but repping the 5 will be difficult. I would check behind personally, you need to bet about PSB to shake him off I think, and I don't want to risk it with little info!

[ama0330]

Im lost between "okay" and "totally horrible" on my flop call here. This hand is annoying me.

[prodonkey]

god those are the guys that destroy me.. 40/10's.. 50/10's.. bleh. I always give them credit for that middle crap.. if you do make your straight it's a pretty obvious one.. unless u manage to hit a 9 and catch him with a bare 8 then u stack him. I'd check the turn.. he's probably going to call even if you bet.

[ama0330]

Does anyone raise the flop?

[prodonkey]

No. he's got calling station numbers and he's firing 1/2 pot into 2 people.. he could easily have any 2 pair.. a set.. straight.. or a horribly played overpair. Most of these guys don't bet draws like that.

[ama0330]

Yeah I gues this hand is pretty standard really. I think that in future Im just going to fold this flop, I cant see why I floated here it doesnt make sense.

Anyway I figured he was just trying to steal (obv not a very smart conclusion) so I lead out for $15 and he called (???) river was a 7 so board is

6 5 7 5 7

And he pushes, so I obv fold.

Results: <font color="#FFFFFF">He told me he had TT. I dont believe him. I told him I folded a 5 on the river. He DID believe me. Lollers.</font>

[ADK]

folding preflop, folding flop. i dont understand why you called his raise preflop.

[EMc]

ADK,

Good odds, Amazing position.

[Michael Fish]

HU If you've got the implied odds on him paying off I'd nearly always raise it up. If you hit great, but if not drop it as fast as you would a chick with crabs. As is a call.

If a nine peels off that turn you're golden and have his stack even a four and you're usually going to pick at up least another call on the turn. In anycase I think you get paid or split more offen than enough to make it worth it in the long run. As it is you nearly always see the villan with some random conected [censored] that's picked up a pair or two.

[EMc]

Ama,

It looks like hes probably going into shutdown mode here, if he calls you have outs, and he will fold a lot of better hands. Checking behind here is also an option. Hes giving you free odds to draw to beat him. Im probably gonna check here more than bet, but thats just me. Remember you can bluff a lof of flushy rivers.

PS i dont really see much wrong with preflop, or really the flop

[danny8]

raise pf, its much better being the aggresor!

im not sure on the flop call.. your implied odds arent too good since you'll only have a 1 card straight, i guess you have a BDFD too, and your in position, and its only 1/2 pot... i guess i prolly call too

i'd check behind on the turn, i think villains most likely holdings are a small overpair or an FD/SD and i dont think he folds any of them to a bet

[ama0330]

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Ama,

It looks like hes probably going into shutdown mode here, if he calls you have outs, and he will fold a lot of better hands.

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This is true, but the problem is that to an observant player, I haven't really represented anything. If a player did this to you, would you fold? I probably wouldnt fold an overpair here, I'd just be like "lol as if you called preflop with a 5". I think that villains most likely range for me is exactly what I have, a draw.

[whizzle]

I would raise this hand PF depending on my table image and the table. U have to be the agressor here. I usually call this hand with 2 or 3 limpers. But with only 1 limper i'm raising in this spot a lot of the time. Obvious fold on the flop. I rarely get involved with callingstations unless i have a better drawing hand than this. Besides u are not getting the right price to call here. So it's a fold or a raise and u definitely can't push him of his hand. He will call u down no matter what. I like a raise on the flop against a TAG. Most Face cards are folding on this flop

[Loc0Loc0]

What would be the right play?

I think you shouldn't raise the flop. He is pretty loose preflop, but raises only 10%. In the SB i think he might only raise op top 3/4% (AQs+/JJ+). So if you raise postflop you often facing a RR i think.
(Especially with you raising any PP for setvalue)

[barryc83]

pf=meh. Gotta call flop getting 3:1. Check turn, whatever hes got, hes not folding. I'm very very rarely firing the turn against loose guys like this w/ an 8 out draw.

[ama0330]

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What would be the right play?

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If I could play this hand again, I would strongly consider folding the flop and I would definitely check behind turn and fold river. I think that on reflection my turn bet here was very unwise. The flop call is extremely marginal, particularly given that my outs are quite obvious which may mean that I dont collect on my implied odds.

[ADK]

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ADK,

Good odds, Amazing position.

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good point actually, didnt realize about the odds