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mpn
03-29-2007, 10:50 AM
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
Hero: $44.25
UTG+1: $70.95
CO: $50.45
Button: $56.30
SB: $95.95
BB: $83.65

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/spade.gif
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, 4 folds, BB calls.

Flop: Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif J/images/graemlins/heart.gif 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($3.75, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $3.75</font>, BB calls.

Turn: 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($11.25, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $11.25</font>, BB calls.

River: 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($33.75, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero..

Abelardo
03-29-2007, 11:01 AM
Hmmm, depends a lot on opponent, if he's a pretty poor calling station type I'd go ahead with a small bet, easy check against aggro opponents, normally I'd just check behind for anything in between. It's probably weak but it can't be that terrible I think.

monkover
03-29-2007, 11:05 AM
I donīt think checking behind is the right move here. I doubt villain calls oop K10 and if he had any kind of draw (FD, str8draw) it didnīt get there. By betting small you may get some value out of a weak Q that only wants to get to a SD. The draws are going to fold anyways...

Jouster777
03-29-2007, 11:17 AM
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I donīt think checking behind is the right move here. I doubt villain calls oop K10 and if he had any kind of draw (FD, str8draw) it didnīt get there. By betting small you may get some value out of a weak Q that only wants to get to a SD. The draws are going to fold anyways...

[/ QUOTE ]The turn didn't help him. If he flopped 2-pair or better the time for him to wake up was on the turn so a small VB is goot here.

monkover
03-29-2007, 11:27 AM
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I donīt think checking behind is the right move here. I doubt villain calls oop K10 and if he had any kind of draw (FD, str8draw) it didnīt get there. By betting small you may get some value out of a weak Q that only wants to get to a SD. The draws are going to fold anyways...

[/ QUOTE ]The turn didn't help him. If he flopped 2-pair or better the time for him to wake up was on the turn so a small VB is goot here.

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Thatīs exactly what I said but only a kind of small one

ama0330
03-29-2007, 11:28 AM
I doubt you get paid by anything worse, but then again this is NL50. I personally like a check behind here I just dont think theres a great deal of value in a bet.

Machavelli
03-29-2007, 11:29 AM
Any reads on villain? If I think villain is fishy I'll bet/fold this river and expect to get paid off by AQ, KQ, Q10. If villain is decent I check behind.

juanepr
03-29-2007, 11:31 AM
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Any reads on villain? If I think villain is fishy I'll bet/fold this river and expect to get paid off by AQ, KQ, Q10. If villain is decent I check behind.

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fees
03-29-2007, 11:42 AM
turn bet is rather largeish.. you definitly valuebet this river, im thinking like 18-22ish? right? If you were good before, which you probably were (he woulda raised the turn with the best hand).

netstorm
03-29-2007, 11:43 AM
I doubt any decent villain will call any medium-large sized bet with anything you beat. AQ probably calls, but you're behind the rest that calls (2pair, straight, set) Although I would suspect that any of those had raised already...

ocdscale
03-29-2007, 11:57 AM
I think a check is in order. The only hands you beat that call are AQ, KQ..
Certainly won't call with busted draws.
Then there's the chance he was slow playing a flopped set, two pair (QJ), or straight (although admittedly, KT seems unlikely)

I think you're ahead, but don't get paid off at all to make up for the rare times you're behind.

Daniel LeClaire
03-29-2007, 12:03 PM
I think there is a lot of value in shoving this river. If you make a smaller bet and he shoves you'll have to call anyway. Shoving looks more like a bluff and, I think, gets called more. So, I either shove or check behind.

FullyBoat
03-29-2007, 12:19 PM
Check the river.

I think it's important not to go crazy here with just one pair.
I think we need to put hands like J9/Q9 in the villain's range here - and they're probably calling your river bet... and then they're raking the pot.

Other hands like J10 or 910 are folding. A flush draw is folding. The only hand I can see you getting a call from that you beat is AQ, KQ or maybe Q10 if he is really a station.

ADK
03-29-2007, 07:13 PM
im checking river every time here

DannyOcean_
03-29-2007, 07:16 PM
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Any reads on villain? If I think villain is fishy I'll bet/fold this river and expect to get paid off by AQ, KQ, Q10. If villain is decent I check behind.

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