Major Downswing. Lots of hands, need lots of help. [Archive]

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goat_beard

03-28-2007, 07:49 PM

Alright guys, so today I was feeling confident before signing on FTP and playing. I was finally up 7.5 buyins and then boom -6.5 buyins in 1hr. Im posting all hands that had net profit of -5$ or more. Feel free to help, flame, or whatever you please. Thanks ahead of time though.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$0.05/$0.10 Blinds
4 Players
Lego Poker Hand Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh/)

Stack Sizes
SB: $10.75
BB: $13.70
Hero (UTG): $11
BTN: $13.95

Preflop: 7/images/graemlins/club.gif 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($0.15, 4 Players)
Hero raises to $0.35, BTN folds, SB calls $0.30, BB folds

Flop: 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($0.80, 2 Players)
SB bets $0.80, Hero raises to $3.20, SB raises all-in to $10.40, Hero calls $7.20

Turn: 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($21.60, 2 Players - 1 All-In)
No Action

River: 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/club.gif ($21.60, 2 Players - 1 All-In)
No Action

Pot Size: $21.60 ($1 Rake)

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$0.05/$0.10 Blinds
6 Players
Lego Poker Hand Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh/)

Stack Sizes
SB: $10.30
Hero (BB): $10.30
UTG: $9.25
MP: $9.45
CO: $4.40
BTN: $7.85

Preflop: 7/images/graemlins/club.gif 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($0.15, 6 Players)
UTG calls $0.10, MP folds, CO calls $0.10, BTN raises to $0.20, SB folds, Hero raises to $0.85, UTG calls $0.75, CO calls $0.75, BTN folds

Flop: 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif 4/images/graemlins/club.gif J/images/graemlins/club.gif ($2.80, 3 Players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $2.30, CO folds, Hero raises to $4.60, UTG raises to $6.90, Hero folds
Uncalled bet of $2.30 returned to UTG

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$0.05/$0.10 Blinds
6 Players
Lego Poker Hand Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh/)

Stack Sizes
SB: $7.90
BB: $13.70
UTG: $11.75
Hero (MP): $9.95
CO: $25.45
BTN: $12.45

Preflop: T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif T/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($0.15, 6 Players)
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.40, CO folds, BTN raises to $2, 2 folds, Hero raises all-in to $9.95, BTN calls $7.95

Flop: 8/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($20.05, 2 Players - 1 All-In)
No Action

Turn: 8/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($20.05, 2 Players - 1 All-In)
No Action

River: 8/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($20.05, 2 Players - 1 All-In)
No Action

Pot Size: $20.05 ($2 Rake)

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$0.05/$0.10 Blinds
5 Players
Lego Poker Hand Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh/)

Stack Sizes
SB: $10.35
Hero (BB): $10
UTG: $5.10
CO: $6.80
BTN: $10.75

Preflop: T/images/graemlins/club.gif T/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($0.15, 5 Players)
UTG calls $0.10, CO folds, BTN raises to $0.20, SB calls $0.15, Hero raises to $0.90, UTG calls $0.80, 2 folds

Flop: 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif J/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($2.20, 2 Players)
Hero bets $2.20, UTG raises all-in to $4.20, Hero calls $2

Turn: 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif J/images/graemlins/heart.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($10.60, 2 Players - 1 All-In)
No Action

River: 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif J/images/graemlins/heart.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($10.60, 2 Players - 1 All-In)
No Action

Pot Size: $10.60 ($1 Rake)

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$0.05/$0.10 Blinds
6 Players
Lego Poker Hand Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh/)

Stack Sizes
SB: $9.40
BB: $5.45
UTG: $10
MP: $9.90
Hero (CO): $10.70
BTN: $13.80

Preflop: K/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($0.15, 6 Players)
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.35, BTN calls $0.35, 2 folds

Flop: 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($0.85, 2 Players)
Hero bets $0.85, BTN calls $0.85

Turn: 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($2.55, 2 Players)
Hero bets $2.55, BTN raises all-in to $12.60, Hero calls all-in for $6.95
Uncalled bet of $3.10 returned to BTN

River: 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($21.55, 2 Players - 2 All-In)
No Action

Pot Size: $21.55 ($2 Rake)

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$0.05/$0.10 Blinds
6 Players
Lego Poker Hand Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh/)

Stack Sizes
SB: $8.25
BB: $10
UTG: $24.55
MP: $3
CO: $19.65
Hero (BTN): $11.85

Preflop: J/images/graemlins/heart.gif J/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($0.15, 6 Players)
2 folds, CO raises to $0.40, Hero calls $0.40, SB folds, BB calls $0.30

Flop: 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 5/images/graemlins/club.gif ($1.25, 3 Players)
BB checks, CO bets $1.20, Hero raises to $3.60, BB folds, CO raises to $11.10, Hero raises all-in to $11.45, CO calls $0.35

Turn: 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 5/images/graemlins/club.gif T/images/graemlins/club.gif ($24.15, 2 Players - 1 All-In)
No Action

River: 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 5/images/graemlins/club.gif T/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($24.15, 2 Players - 1 All-In)
No Action

Pot Size: $24.15 ($2 Rake)

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$0.05/$0.10 Blinds
5 Players
Lego Poker Hand Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh/)

Stack Sizes
SB: $26.90
BB: $6.65
UTG: $11.90
CO: $11.40
Hero (BTN): $8.50

Preflop: A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif T/images/graemlins/club.gif ($0.15, 5 Players)
UTG calls $0.10, CO folds, Hero raises to $0.45, SB folds, BB calls $0.35, UTG calls $0.35

Flop: A/images/graemlins/club.gif 4/images/graemlins/club.gif 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($1.40, 3 Players)
BB bets $2, UTG folds, Hero raises all-in to $8.05, BB calls all-in for $4.20
Uncalled bet of $1.85 returned to Hero

Turn: A/images/graemlins/club.gif 4/images/graemlins/club.gif 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 3/images/graemlins/club.gif ($13.80, 2 Players - 2 All-In)
No Action

River: A/images/graemlins/club.gif 4/images/graemlins/club.gif 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 3/images/graemlins/club.gif 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($13.80, 2 Players - 2 All-In)
No Action

Pot Size: $13.80 ($1 Rake)

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$0.05/$0.10 Blinds
4 Players
Lego Poker Hand Converter (http://www.legopoker.com/hh/)

Stack Sizes
Hero (SB): $13.40
BB: $8.95
UTG: $3.65
BTN: $2.30

Preflop: 9/images/graemlins/club.gif T/images/graemlins/club.gif ($0.15, 4 Players)
UTG calls $0.10, BTN calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.05, BB checks

Flop: A/images/graemlins/club.gif 7/images/graemlins/club.gif J/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($0.40, 4 Players)
Hero bets $0.40, BB calls $0.40, UTG folds, BTN calls $0.40

Turn: A/images/graemlins/club.gif 7/images/graemlins/club.gif J/images/graemlins/heart.gif 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($1.60, 3 Players)
Hero bets $1.60, BB calls $1.60, BTN folds

River: A/images/graemlins/club.gif 7/images/graemlins/club.gif J/images/graemlins/heart.gif 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($4.80, 2 Players)
Hero bets $3.50, BB calls $3.50

Pot Size: $11.80 ($1 Rake)

THANKS GUYS!

marvin_1935

03-28-2007, 07:55 PM

it would be easier to respond if you posted only 1 hand at a time. it looks like you're getting ai in marginal spots.

thac

03-28-2007, 07:55 PM

Big pots are for big hands - One pair isn't a big hand, especially when it's not even top pair! Stop overplaying your hands and you'll definitely stop losing as much.

The last hand, when he calls the flop and the turn, he's not folding on a blank river. Don't bluff at these levels, they'll very rarely work.

Vyse

03-28-2007, 08:17 PM

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it would be easier to respond if you posted only 1 hand at a time. it looks like you're getting ai in marginal spots.

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^

gedanken

03-28-2007, 08:47 PM

My take: You're playing like a total LAGtard. Works for a while, then people figure out what you're doing and pick good hands to stand up to you with.

Even top-pair, top kicker is a dangerous hand to hold at no-limit. It often loses when it gets big action. You're betting mediocre pairs and good draws like you've got trips or better, and you're not fooling anyone (anymore).

PwnSauce

03-28-2007, 09:04 PM

Post one hand at a time.

Hand 1:
If you plan on playing this, just call the flop. A lot of combo draws are shoving on you, two pairs, top pairs scared of draws hitting etc. So like 90 percent of time you are crushed, keep the pot small and trust value bet river or something.

Hand 2:
Pretty hard to say w/out reads, if you think he'd do this with flush draws then call all day here. Not sure why you're 3betting him pf with 77, I assume you have a read and he raises pf a lot or something. Please loose 3-bet with a reason. So now you 3bet, representing a big pair/AK/AQ and you check the flop? NO. lol You bet and depending on opponent its a call or a fold. I can't tell you.

Hand 3:
Do you have a read? No? SPEW. Fold pf, pretty sure you don't have implied odds here.

Hand 4:
Questionable. Pf reraise is fine. Your flop play depends if think villain is calling with midpair/naked draws.If he's a donk, it may not be that bad. Take into account you get owned by J a lot here.

Hand 5:
With no read I fold. Gutshot/straight, and wow I don't pot turn.

Hand 6:
Reraise pf. Flop is very read dependent. Its either top pair stacking off or an overpair, one of which you are beating. With no reads at 10NL I'd prolly look him up and see top pair/two overcards. At higher levels, I'd seriously be considering a fold.

Hand 7:
Fine.

Hand 8:
Give up on river. Betting two streets looks fine there.

PwnSauce

03-28-2007, 09:07 PM

[ QUOTE ]
My take: You're playing like a total LAGtard. Works for a while, then people figure out what you're doing and pick good hands to stand up to you with.

Even top-pair, top kicker is a dangerous hand to hold at no-limit. It often loses when it gets big action. You're betting mediocre pairs and good draws like you've got trips or better, and you're not fooling anyone (anymore).

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ROFL LAGtard. Ya just stop shoving when you don't have the goods, it's 10 NL, get it in when you have an awesome hand. Don't try to be tricky or whatever or you'll end up getting called with bottom pair. Overpair on a drawy board, at 10 NL I've even just open shoved and got bottom pair calling and crap like that. (Do not try this at home)

Vyse

03-28-2007, 09:38 PM

10 NL owned me for a while because I was so much better than everyone that I kept trying to be tricky. The only "tricky" thing you can do is steal the blinds. Please play tighter.

juanepr

03-28-2007, 11:22 PM

This seems like you got bored of playing tag and wanted to loosen up, but you went WAY too far. Go back to ABC. The only tricky part of playing nl10 is knowing when to slowpay a hand, which is almost never.

Kasane

03-28-2007, 11:45 PM

Aggression will get you far... but this borders on silly. Yes, it is Lagtard play -- as some posters say. It does work, for a while. Players may have learned a bit how you play. Stay too long at any one table and they'll figure it out. Were you playing a longer session? Tilting a bit? Trying to play through "a bad stretch" by keeping to your style and attributing it to bad cards? Once the other players see you push AT on an A high flop, they'll label you and it'll stick. You'll get called thinner and thinner.

Running through your hands quickly, it didn't seem like you were certain enough of being ahead in any of them to push as hard as you did.

Your opponent's spoke to you about their strength and you didn't listen ... or tried hard to push them off what seemed to you to be marginally strong hands. Tricky doesn't work at this level.

goat_beard

03-29-2007, 12:24 AM

let me run through a cpl hands now...
Hand 1: I just played a 5$ pot with this guy turning a K to beat his flopped mid pair...i figd he wanted some back so id play at him with 77...after flopping the openender/2nd pair and seeing that raise i decided to put him in cus i though me mite think im making a play, turns out it was 100% correct as he flips Q6, u can see where that went GG.

Hand 2:no show

Hand 3: Donkey move here, I forget reasoning I think i might have been steaming a little, he shows JJ gg.

Hand 4: he shows 99 NH

Hand 5: this guy has been calling down shoving lots of mid pairs and the occasional TP...i thought he mite have a FD here and called like a moron to be beat by the obvious set...gg

Hand 6: shows AA, gg. Any thoughts on play here?

Hand 7: ive played 2, -~10 pots to this person so far including the Q6>77 pot, I made moron call which i thought was right though.

Hand 8: I alwys Cbet rivers with busted draws if ive been original better, i get folds more than 50% of time and it works out positive, in this hand i had a pair, FD, and str8 draw and was fairly confident if i hit any I would be ahead and may be so with the 9. Unfortuantly he shows A6 FTW.

In hindsight I made a lot of stupid plays, I did play like a "Lagtard" trying to fix that right now. Hopefully I dont go busto. Managed to recover a little today, down 7.5 buyins total though. GL tomorow.