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Ryba
03-28-2007, 04:20 PM
Villian is tight running about 23/8/1, but not good, i'm running about 25/20. What now on the turn, check, bet and call his all in, or just shove it would be like 30$ into a 20$ pot?

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $41.72
UTG+1: $50.70
CO: $66.94
HERO: $126.93
SB: $53.55
BB: $50.75

Pre-flop: (6 players) HERO is Button with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif K/images/graemlins/spade.gif
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $1</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">HERO raises to $4</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif T/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($8.75, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">HERO bets $6</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($20.75, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">HERO ?

Leviathan101
03-28-2007, 04:28 PM
I like 15, call push, AI on any spade or King river, check otherwise.

Stake Monster
03-28-2007, 04:29 PM
You have the 2nd nut flush draw and top pair, I don't mind going all in on the turn here.

Machavelli
03-28-2007, 04:30 PM
hero bets 13 knowing he has the K high redraw?

Waingro
03-28-2007, 04:30 PM
The fact you have the K /images/graemlins/spade.gif makes me more inclined to check. Bet/folding and bet/calling both suck.

zacd
03-28-2007, 04:37 PM
I would check and see what he does on the river.

Vyse
03-28-2007, 04:41 PM
I bet $15 here

Kasane
03-28-2007, 05:05 PM
I would chk this turn against a lot of villains. Getting c/r here would suck. Not much that you beat calls and you can pretty much bet or call any river. Villains stats and pf mr are often 2 suited cards, and considering the flop call ... again, leaning towards a draw. A weak made hand is the next likeliest, and that hand will in all likelihood fold. Monsters and flushes will be c/r.

I like a chk when we've got a good redraw and showdown potential even when we don't improve.

KEW
03-28-2007, 05:12 PM
Either check or move AI...Villain only has $30 behind if he is going to call $15 he will call $30 and if you get C/Red there is no way to fold...Betting $15 on the turn also committs OP to calling the last $15 on the river regardless of what falls...I prefer a check holding the K of spades..

uppie_
03-28-2007, 05:29 PM
I like the check holding the King of spades in position it does 3 things. One take a free run at the spade if he has it, 2 induce a bet from a weaker hand like QT AT KT 9T probably even 99 or 77, all possible holdings. And 3 if your beat and he bets 15 on the river you lose 15 less then had you bet.

ssdex
03-28-2007, 05:37 PM
check, very good point, your hand has very good showdown potential, also if you shove, is villian really looking you up with a worse hand then the one you've got? the only hand he may call with if u shove that you beat is As 10x..... which has a redraw on you anyways......... i like the check call line here.... if s or k comes maybe bet for value if checks it to you again.

Ryba
03-28-2007, 06:23 PM
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check, very good point, your hand has very good showdown potential, also if you shove, is villian really looking you up with a worse hand then the one you've got? the only hand he may call with if u shove that you beat is As 10x..... which has a redraw on you anyways......... i like the check call line here.... if s or k comes maybe bet for value if checks it to you again.

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Yeah i like this best too, so lets say we check river is a 9/images/graemlins/club.gif and he bets 20$, call or no?