TPGK facing all-in on the river.

[takingcontrol]

Villain was very agro over about 50 hands.


Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $5.98
UTG+1: $7.38
CO: $9.60
Hero: $9.43
SB: $13.72
BB: $6.85

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Hero calls, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $0.7</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($1.65, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $1.7</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($5.05, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB is all-in $11.32</font>
Hero . . . ?

[Machavelli]

fold. Villain has shown constant aggression throughout hand (aka he likes his hand) and you can't be TPTK.

[Grunch]

Raise preflop to isolate your opponent and give you the ability to win on the flop when nobody hits. As played, fold the flop. Raising is better than calling -- calling is absolutely terrible.

As played on the turn I fold, but you should be asking different questions.

[Machavelli]

also take good notes on this type of player, if you seem him pull this same move with 77 or TT then he will be easy to exploit later on.

[crushednuts]

I hate taking a card off on the flop. If he is cbetting let him have it. If he has AA you are virtually drawing dead. Never take a card off w/ two overs if you won't make TPTK IMO.. especially facing a PSB on the flop

Edit: Scratch that..never take a card off w/ two overs when you aren't getting the odds and know for certain he isn't trapping (which is rarely)

[Sir Winalot]

Eh, you misplayed this hand pretty bad all over it.

Preflop: First, limping behind on the button with KQ here is bad imo. You have as strong a hand as KQ, in position, villain only limped which means he probably doesn't have a strong hand. All this against 10nl villains who are bound to suck hard: Raise that [censored] up!!

The 2nd call isn't that bad, but I don't like it very much either. SB could have taken a practically free flop, why does he raise big then? Maybe he's just getting fancy on a bluff, but I think this is most of the time something he considers as a big hand.

Flop: You flopped nothing and villains at this level aren't smart enough that you could bluff them of any made hand. Time to bail out. In my experience big bets at this level really mean strength, and this villain has made TWO big bets already. I think he has a big hand here like 9/10 times. Your call here is pretty much burning money unless you have a solid read that villain is a bluffhappy retard.

Turn: Fold. Only reason you could call here is if you think he might be desperation shoving TT or JJ, but I doubt it. I think you're being shown QQ+ here pretty much allways.

[JadeRedstone]

What is very aggressive ?
Does he see and raise every pot? Or his he only aggressive in the pots he is in?

I suspect villain have Ax here at best most of the time. Maybe A9, T's or something like that. However without reads I fold. A maniac on this level almost never go AI with the best hand. They often push when a card that scare them come on. So I'm pretty sure you are ahead. But again, without reads its a fold.

And like everyone said, raise PF - fold flop

[takingcontrol]

Hero calls, I showed down t8s. I was raising every pot I went into and c-betting alot on favorable flops, generally pushing the table round a good bit.
When hero called my first bet, I put him on exactly what he had - whiffed overs, when the queen showed I knew I was in trouble but decided to gamble anyway.

[juanepr]

[ QUOTE ]
Hero calls, I showed down t8s. I was raising every pot I went into and c-betting alot on favorable flops, generally pushing the table round a good bit.
When hero called my first bet, I put him on exactly what he had - whiffed overs, when the queen showed I knew I was in trouble but decided to gamble anyway.

[/ QUOTE ]

I still don't get why you decided to limp KQo OTB preflop. If you didn't want to raise it, just fold. On the flop, raise or fold. You accomplish nothing by calling, except bloating the pot and facing a certain bet on the turn. As it played out (which I think it means villian showed t8s), you were lucky.

edit: reading this again, are you implying that you are villian in this hand?

[takingcontrol]

Yeah, I was villain - I was interested to know how my play would be percieved. . I was pretty sure he played badly, as I hadn't been at the table long enough for a proper read. In conclusion, I think I might have come across just a little too agro.

[JadeRedstone]

Being a maniac in low levels is pretty silly in my opinion.
People will start calling you down with A high and sometimes even with J high (have seen it happen)

So you have to be a smart maniac. Pushing AI after villain is willing to call flop PB with only overs is a risky thing.

I love maniacs in my table.

[kurto]

[ QUOTE ]
Yeah, I was villain - I was interested to know how my play would be percieved. . I was pretty sure he played badly, as I hadn't been at the table long enough for a proper read. In conclusion, I think I might have come across just a little too agro.

[/ QUOTE ]

Playing the way you do here is what gives people a poker erection. You are trying your best to give chips away.

This is the kind of play that would make people follow you to any table you played. Easily exploitable.

[JadeRedstone]

btw, against a maniac I play similar to villain.
I limo with my good hand. KQo can not stand 3-bet and I suspect villain did a lot of those, so you simply limp/call with them.
Now on a miss flop like that I either fold or raise. Most maniac's will still fold to real resistance. So if you get 3 bet on the flop it is usually a sign that he either hit the flop or has a real hand.
I am not going to stack with K high. But by raising and folding to a reraise you actually encourage him to continue his play. usually I'll stack them later.

[monkeymaps]

I agree with other posters at .10NL a LAG image doesnt help that much beacause you get called down so lightly in the first place, unless you have a very tight table I dont see the need to make these plays and even at a tight table your only getting called when your beat in a hand like this.

[kayfish77]

actually this is the turn. raise preflop. as played fold the flop or atleast raise the flop. were floating an unknown at 10 nl with king high in a limped pot. thats prob not the best idea.

[Sir Winalot]

[ QUOTE ]
Yeah, I was villain - I was interested to know how my play would be percieved. . I was pretty sure he played badly , as I hadn't been at the table long enough for a proper read. In conclusion, I think I might have come across just a little too agro.

[/ QUOTE ]
I would take a serious look at the mirror if I were you.