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Bork
03-28-2007, 05:21 AM
Was calling flop to see what he does on the turn a mistake?
I think he was kind of fishy and mixed it up with marginal hands, but I hadn't played with him long.

I thought for a long time before folding turn, and he says, 'lol' then 'I had you'. I don't know if he really had me. I put him 44 or KJ or maybe some crap that he is overplaying. I didn't think he was bluffing, but I guess there is some chance that he was.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($45.05)
Button ($39.45)
SB ($13.80)
BB ($33.65)
UTG ($89.35)
MP ($46.85)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.7</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $0.45, MP calls $0.45.

Flop: ($2.20) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $1.75</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $12</font>, Hero calls $8.

Turn: ($26.20) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets $34.15 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $60.35
venom007
03-28-2007, 05:23 AM
did he say "then I had you" or just "I had you"......because clearly if he said "lol then I had you" then it was jamie gold and you were probably bluffed.
lemming
03-28-2007, 05:28 AM
Raise more preflop!!! 0.7$ is very very poor... And 44 is easily calling you there.

Make it at least 1$ preflop imo... Then make larger c-bet on the flop like 2$. Actually, I think I would be calling here... He might be on a draw, if you say he's kinda fishy, or KQ top pair some [censored] /images/graemlins/smile.gif
tarheeljks
03-28-2007, 05:34 AM
lay it down. the small pf raise is probably what f-ed you here.

if he said "if you folded then i had you" he probably didn't have a set, but that doesn't help you during the hand.
ShipitFMA
03-28-2007, 05:36 AM
Before calling $8 more on the flop you should ask yourself what you're going to do on a blank turn to a shove.

that 6 really couldn't have helped him. I think just fold the flop
kayfish77
03-28-2007, 06:09 AM
1.25 preflop
fold flop if youre going to fold blank turn which you should because he can have any 2 bc of preflop.
uppie_
03-28-2007, 08:48 AM
pre flop raise little small don't know if a dollar is going to do much differnt however, if they call 70 whats another .30cents. Same as for cbing if there going to call or riase 1.75 there going to call or raise 2. But what others have said is right about having a plan about how to play a blank turn, and if your folding a blank turn you should be folding on the flop.
jimpo
03-28-2007, 09:10 AM
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Turn: ($26.20) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets $34.15 (All-In)</font>, Hero types "do u have it?"


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Try to get a read on him
eigenvalue
03-28-2007, 09:12 AM
An easy fold on the flop. At least you got away on the turn!
Machavelli
03-28-2007, 09:46 AM
pre-flop raise should be bigger, between 1-1.25.

Flop raise should be bigger, raise between 5-6. When he re-raises its very marginal. Probably let it go here. Go to war with big hands, one pair in this spot doesn't seem good.
monkeymaps
03-28-2007, 10:03 AM
def raise more pre not so much to induce folds but for value. Reads would be nice but this is a fold vs most opponents. Does he limp preflop with KJ and KQ? I would fold but if he is fishy enough you could be losing value against KQ K10 but this is very read dependend and if this guy sucks there will be better spots.