$25 - Use Your Illusion I

[K䲰䮥n]

PP's HHS wont convert.

This is the third time villain 3-bets me with in 3 minutes or so. Is LAGGY. Dream flop for [censored] 's sake.


Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: P0kersFace ( $ 33.55 USD )
Seat 2: mokaau ( $ 12.65 USD )
Seat 3: MrNorthstar ( $ 44.35 USD )
Seat 4: daflipp ( $ 21.10 USD )
Seat 6: Hero ( $ 25.85 USD )
Seat 5: Goldik8 ( $ 25.35 USD )

MrNorthstar posts small blind [$ 0.10 USD].
daflipp posts big blind [$ 0.25 USD].

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Kd Kc ]
Goldik8 folds
Hero raises [$ 1 USD]
P0kersFace raises [$ 3 USD]
mokaau folds
MrNorthstar folds
daflipp folds
Hero raises [$ 9 USD]
P0kersFace calls [$ 7 USD]

** Dealing Flop ** [ Ad, 3s, 9s ]
Hero checks
P0kersFace bets [$ 10 USD]
Hero calls [$ 10 USD]

** Dealing Turn ** [ Td ]
Hero is all-In [$ 5.85 USD]

Desperate stop-n-go post flop. meh.

[kolotoure]

C/c c/c ftw

[K䲰䮥n]

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C/c c/c ftw

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Does the turn really matter on this one?

[uppie_]

if your call 10 on the flop just shove your 15 in on the flop, give him a chance to fold. if you check why call, your basically calling off all your chips.

[kolotoure]

When you say shove I really hope you don't mean open shove. Shoving over the flop raise is fine but open shoving is awful

[ocdscale]

Reraise him higher preflop.
Calling on this flop is dangerous, the last few times he 3bet you, what did he have? Maybe he's 3betting light, maybe he had a hot streak.
If you know he's been playing light, checking on the flop (and then calling!) horrid imo. If you're going to call, bet, you may get him to fold a weak ace. By checking, you get him to believe his A6s is good (and it is).

[K䲰䮥n]

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if your call 10 on the flop just shove your 15 in on the flop, give him a chance to fold.


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He's getting the change on the turn. Villain is folding to my flop/turn push like.... 1/89349302432904832940.

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if you check why call, your basically calling off all your chips.

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You should read more, post less.

[kolotoure]

Leading this flop is unbelievably awful

[K䲰䮥n]

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Reraise him higher preflop.

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pot size raise is now too small?

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Calling on this flop is dangerous, the last few times he 3bet you, what did he have? Maybe he's 3betting light, maybe he had a hot streak.


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If I had that info I would had posted it

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If you're going to call, bet, you may get him to fold a weak ace. By checking, you get him to believe his A6s is good (and it is).

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And it is. lol at him folding a weak ace at this level.

[kolotoure]

If I have top pair in a 3-bet pot I am folding ~never

[uppie_]

play it your way and be passive after you stuck almost half your stack in already

[kolotoure]

Uppie are you advocating open shoving the flop?

[uppie_]

I wouldn't have played this hand this way at all heres my most likely line.

Raise to 1, get re riased to 3 I flat call. then this flop comes, i can see how it plays out for a lot less money and on a flop like this have almost no chance of losing my stack. sure I lose some times to weaker hands that may have folded, but i gain a ton of value from lower to mid pairs that believe there good. as well as some other hands broadway hands.

but the way he played it, it is hard not to get your stack in because he lost control of the pot size, but I do now see after thinking a little more check raising all in on the flop is probably slightly better, cause it gives a chance for QQ JJ to bet. My biggest problem with this hand is he stuck in half his stack pre flop and now what you do when an ace flops, you lead out 10 and get raised and flod for 5 more don't like that, you open push(probably only getting called by hands that beat you) don't like that, bet five into 20 and look weak and fold if he pushes, hard cause you look weak and are going to get that action sometimes from hands you beat.

or you can check call you last 15 off, no seem very good. when all seem bad i err on the side of aggression.

[kolotoure]

Your lines is really bad

[K䲰䮥n]

Yes, pot control is essential when playing KK vs. a player that 3-bets you frequently.

[uppie_]

ok if my line so bad, lets play the hand out instead my way.

we have 6 in the pot, now the ace flops we check he bets 4 or so we call, it is going ot be hard for him to bet the turn with out the ace. and we can save 15 bucks.

does he really fire 2 barrels with no ace here?

[kolotoure]

Results orientated much?

[uppie_]

i don't know if he lost the pot he may have won a bigger pot off of qq then i would have because of the way he played it. i woudln't have won 25 off QQ here. but i would have only lost 7 to Ak AQ. and if he has AA i really got off the hook.