25NL: a non-nut FD against a unknown villain

[Montezuma21]

villain is a relative unknown. in the 10 hands we've been at the table together he's minraised me once in a blind battle (he was BB) and succeeded in taking down the pot on later streets. with the NFD i would certainly push in this spot, FWIW. note that we're a little bit deep, i don't know if that changes your decision, but it gave me pause for concern.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($14.57)
UTG ($20.90)
MP ($19.25)
Hero ($32.05)
Button ($66.56)
SB ($24.15)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
[color=#666666]2 folds</font>, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $1</font>, Button calls $1, [color=#666666]1 fold</font>, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($3.10) Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif [color=#0000FF](3 players)</font>
BB checks, [color=#CC3333]Hero bets $2.25</font>, [color=#CC3333]Button raises to $4.5</font>, BB folds, Hero ?

[Sebasreza]

Hi there ! I am kind of new to this , but i´ll try to start a discussion with my, possibly "amateur" ideas = )
IMHO a fold. From my point of view there are three options. First, he´s got the nfd -&gt; Fold. Second, he´s got trips or two pair, so he should have an advantage in odds-&gt; fold Third, he thinks you made a continuation bet, since the flop is not that bad to try one. So he is trying to push you out. The only way to check this would be a reraise, and as you haven´t hit anything yet i wouldn´t risk doing so as he may bring you all in afterwards. Hope this helped to start a discussion = )

Cheers,

Sebastian

[goat_beard]

call and boink the Ac on turn FTW...as played im calling and c/f to turn bet

[ciki57]

He's giving you awesome odds. Call.

Folding is super-weak.
I think raising is bad because you have close to zero folding equity against players who minraise on this level.

[halinc]

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IMHO a fold.

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It's not a fold.

Villain's range is not so narrow. Yes, he can have the nut flush draw here, a set, etc. But he can also have just about any ten, and with a board like this, it's not unusual for minraisers to get their minraise on with a mid-pair.

Against an unknown, early in a session-- OOP and a little deep-- I call and reevaluate.

[AsydRayne]

I agree with some of the earlier posts. I doubt you have much folding equity here: He's likely going to call a reraise. Call and hope to spike a club.

On a blank you could try a minbet on the turn, hoping to get another minraise, giving you odds to call, or you could just check and hope he underbets it.

folding &gt; calling &gt; shoving

I fold this. You might call to see the turn, since he only min raised, but your oop and he is probably not gonna pay you off if a club hits. Shoving is out of question IMO, since you can`t consider your overs as clean outs and I don`t think you have much FE against villain here.

[RAHZero]

LOL at folding getting better than 4.3:1. Seriously, you have the immediate pot odds to call even if he'll open fold any time the flush hits. Super standard call of the minraise, if the flush hits on the turn, I'll sometimes lead, sometimes go for the checkraise. I'll usually check fold the turn otherwise unless he makes a tiny bet (giving us 3:1 or better), or I spike a J or K.