Very bad play KK here... Please help.

[Tofu_boy]

I got no read on either of the player... My though was EP bet on flop draw but no clue on BB what he call with... please tell me how you play this.

Hand #1

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BB ($65.95)
UTG ($102.75)
UTG+1 ($224.30)
MP1 ($109.95)
MP2 ($124.10)
Hero ($57)
Button ($77.25)
SB ($113.10)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif.
[color=#666666]1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $1, [color=#666666]2 folds</font>, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $4</font>, Button calls $4, [color=#666666]1 fold</font>, BB calls $3, UTG+1 calls $3.

Flop: ($16.50) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif [color=#0000FF](4 players)</font>
BB checks, [color=#CC3333]UTG+1 bets $2</font>, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $7</font>, Button calls $7, BB folds, UTG+1 calls $5.

Turn: ($37.50) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif [color=#0000FF](3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($37.50) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif [color=#0000FF](3 players)</font>
[color=#CC3333]UTG+1 bets $8</font>, Hero folds, Button folds.

Final Pot: $45.50



Hand #2: Also no read on vilain... normally I would 3bet flop here... don't know what I'm doing today..


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MP1 ($20.10)
MP2 ($106.90)
MP3 ($150.35)
Hero ($58.50)
Button ($33.85)
SB ($244.25)
BB ($40)
UTG ($70.55)
UTG+1 ($96.75)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif.
[color=#666666]4 folds</font>, [color=#CC3333]MP3 raises to $3</font>, Hero calls $3, Button calls $3, [color=#666666]2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($10.50) Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif [color=#0000FF](3 players)</font>
MP3 checks, Hero checks, [color=#CC3333]Button bets $5</font>, MP3 folds, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $15</font>, Button calls $10.

Turn: ($40.50) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
Hero checks, [color=#CC3333]Button bets $15.85 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $56.35

[Reliant444]

Hand 2 is easy easy call....

Hand 1 is probably beat, but you're getting amazing odds.

[Quester]

First, you'll probably get more responses if you convert the hands properly - select 2+2 Forums as the output when using the converter tool.

Hand #1 - Your flop raise is tiny. There's $18.50 in the pot, and you only make it $7 to go. Raise larger; you're leaving a lot of value off the table. Fire again on the turn because it doesn't improve any hand. If you did this, you'd probably be in a better spot on the river and have an easier decision.

Hand #2 - Aside from just calling preflop (mistakes happen). I don't mind the flop c/r, but I'd lead the flop anyway to get called down by top pair. I'm not sure if the turn is callable or not.

[goat_beard]

Hand 1 im definitly not checking that turn...by raising the flop and him calling thats like BINGO I HAVE A Q, while the UTG+1 calls with nething from open ender to Qx. as played im calling 8$ river bet 100% of the time.

Hand 2 im 3 betting KK pf for sure, and calling river while swearing off online poker as he shows AK/1010

[netstorm]

Overall, increase your bet sizing. Hand 1, reraise to $15-20 ish on the flop. As played, fire 1/2 - 2/3 PSB on turn again.

Hand2: reraise preflop (10-13 will do). But, because you called, you should lead out on the flop. Be the agressor

[kayfish77]

hand 1, 5 preflop, 15 on the flop makes this so so easy to play. probably fire the blank turn again. as played crying call the river. you have to be right 1/5 times and your line really is so weak theres no reason someone shouldnt bet.

hand 2 after destroying preflop i usually lead maybe weaklead 1/3-1/2 pot and b3b all in so that we dont get into situations like the turn where were debating calling getting 5:1 with no idea what the button might have.