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chrisbroholm
03-26-2007, 03:58 PM
<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>Game #3608366143: Hold'em NL ($0.15/$0.25) - 2007/03/26 - 20:47:16 (GMT)
Table "Scherzo" Seat 3 is the button.
Seat 1: Zarazekkr ($41.43 in chips)
Seat 2: Bananas ($30.88 in chips)
Seat 3: albinp ($20 in chips)
Seat 4: Mrssplash ($19.95 in chips)
Seat 5: alterego ($38.46 in chips)
Seat 6: TheFish ($31.32 in chips)
Mrssplash: posts small blind $0.15
alterego: posts big blind $0.25
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to alterego [9s Ac]
TheFish: folds
Zarazekkr: calls $0.25
Bananas: calls $0.25
albinp: folds
Mrssplash: calls $0.10
alterego: raises to $1.25
Zarazekkr: calls $1
Bananas: calls $1
Mrssplash: calls $1
----- FLOP ----- [Ad 8s 9h]
Mrssplash: checks
alterego: bets $3
Zarazekkr: raises to $12.50
Bananas: folds
Mrssplash: folds
alterego: raises to $37.21 and is all-in
Zarazekkr: calls $24.71
----- TURN ----- [Ad 8s 9h][Qh]
----- RIVER ----- [Ad 8s 9h Qh][Th]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
alterego: shows [9s Ac] (Two Pairs, Aces and Nines, Queen high)
Zarazekkr: shows [9d 9c] (Three of a kind, Nines, Ace high)
Zarazekkr collected $76.42 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot $79.42 Main pot $76.42 Rake $3
Board [Ad 8s 9h Qh Th]
Seat 1: Zarazekkr showed [9d 9c] and won ($76.42) with Three of a kind, Nines, Ace high
Seat 2: Bananas folded on the Flop
Seat 3: albinp (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Mrssplash (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: alterego (big blind) showed [9s Ac] and lost with Two Pairs, Aces and Nines, Queen high
Seat 6: TheFish folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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I didn't even consider him to have a set, i was very happy with my two pairs...did i make other mistakes along the way?

I_HATE_TIHSKID
03-26-2007, 04:00 PM
Preflop is very bad.

Rest is fine.

tiger_hall
03-26-2007, 04:00 PM
sick hand... not much u cud hav done

chrisbroholm
03-26-2007, 04:01 PM
You mean my pre-flop play sucked due to position and choosing to raise A9 in that multiway?

tiger_hall
03-26-2007, 04:04 PM
if u are deciding to raise pre flop into a limp pot which is fine i wudnt make it cheap $1.5-75 at least.. wen the flop comes its a pretty horrid one... can you get away from top pair but top two?!?!

Sneds9
03-26-2007, 04:06 PM
I don't think that villian has much else apart from a set here.

Also, there is a straight draw out.

tiger_hall
03-26-2007, 04:10 PM
problem is that i think pushing is the correct play ... as sneds9 says.. u arent getting paid off by anything apart from a set, it wud be a good lay down but an extremely hard one... it isnt that hard to put them on a set but are you folding top two pair to a single raise..

chrisbroholm
03-26-2007, 04:11 PM
well i of course hoped he was going to pay me off with AK, QA or even AJ

tarheeljks
03-26-2007, 04:13 PM
the pf play is questionable, but it's very difficult to get away from this on the flop. i don't think it's that easy to put him on a set, although it's obviously possible. i suspect that if you hadn't shown the result most people would have seen nothing wrong w/your push. let's say that you are holding aces, which is possible given your pf raise, the villain will rarely fold his set.

kolotoure
03-26-2007, 04:15 PM
Raise more preflop and you're never folding this flop

I_HATE_TIHSKID
03-26-2007, 04:16 PM
@ tiger

That is ridic weak and possibly resultoriented thinking.

AA and 99 is so unlikely. 88 is the only that beats us.

Villains range of going broke on this flop is typically: AA, 99, 88, A8, 89, AK, AQ.

I probaly just call the raise though, and cr all-in on the turn.

chrisbroholm
03-26-2007, 04:17 PM
So you're saying that a .15 / .25 player will fold 99 to a 5-6 bb raise? (was for kolotoure)

StallionDL
03-26-2007, 04:18 PM
[ QUOTE ]
you're never folding this flop

[/ QUOTE ]

+1

If you're folding this hand to this action at 25NL you're leaving money on the table.

tiger_hall
03-26-2007, 04:19 PM
he has a possibility of two hands.. AK or a set.. AQ/AJ are very questionnable play if anyone were to do this... more than likely a call if they had that sort of hand at this level

chrisbroholm
03-26-2007, 05:41 PM
I have to disagree on the range Tiger, although i did not have many reads on him the typical fish on these levels will play almost any two cards, and a big ace A10 through AK is definitely within the range...add ALL pocketpairs and we're almost there.

boycalledroy
03-26-2007, 05:51 PM
I wouldnt be playing A9 from the bb in a limped pot ever. I would play it in a blind battle though.