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patchdiaz
03-24-2007, 08:32 PM
Villain is TAG with an agg factor postflop of over 13. I think his range is ATs+ AJo+ 99+
How would you play this flop? I got a wrong feeling about how I played it. My table image is LAG.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($48)
Hero ($54.75)
BB ($30)
UTG ($53.30)
MP1 ($131.45)
MP2 ($57.25)
CO ($73.25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $12</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $22.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $52.75</font>

dirtylobster
03-24-2007, 08:41 PM
OMG raise preflop. As played, fold flop.

Stake Monster
03-24-2007, 08:48 PM
raise more preflop as he said. very drawy flop, did he have J10? /images/graemlins/smile.gif

patchdiaz
03-24-2007, 08:51 PM
By the way Villain has a 13 postflop aggresion factor. I'll include this in the first post. That's why I didn't reraise PF I was hoping I can win more on the flop, bad move?

Thanks.

Stake Monster
03-24-2007, 08:55 PM
You have to decide if you want to risk to lose a huge pot or to win little ones with hands like these. The way you played it you have no idea where you stand on the flop because you didn't 3-bet. He could easily have 78/89 here or J10, or pocket pairs. If you re-pop him you can narrow down his hands more or he might just fold which is good too.

Does he play those kinda hands in re-raised pots? Will he call with garbage in position?

Those kinda hands are where a lot of players go broke, you need to show more aggression preflop to get more info.

patchdiaz
03-24-2007, 08:59 PM
I don't think he was raising 78/89 or JT from that position. I had like 100 hands from him on PT and said that he was very tight PF that's why I put the range that I write above.

I'm more concerned about a set of 99's, AA or KK more than anything else.

And yes, in retrospective I think I should have reraised him PF. Given the way I played that. How whould you play the flop?

Thanks.

crushednuts
03-24-2007, 09:07 PM
awful flop for you hand. I really wouldn't want to get it AI here..I might dump it after the min-reraise. This bet seems very fishy to me like he is trying to take you to value town.. 3betting before the flop lets you know a little more info then you have now. As it is, AA and KK are still in the villains range in addition to all sorts or raggy suited connectors etc. I RR preflop to fold out the JdTd etc.

patchdiaz
03-25-2007, 11:20 AM
ty, anyone else?

SirFelixCat
03-25-2007, 11:47 AM
I'm curious as to why 77 or 88 is not in your range for villain.

Due to you not 3-betting preflop, you now have put yourself in this position. He could have a huge range here, most of which beats you. Me thinks you have to find a fold here, due to the way you played this preflop.

cowhead
03-25-2007, 11:50 AM
How tight was he that over 100 hands you can say he probably wouldn't raise JTs from middle position?

patchdiaz
03-26-2007, 09:30 PM
He was something like 15 VP$IP and 6 PFR. Am I wrong to assume he's not raising JT in MP1 with that PFR?

Thanks