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ciki57
03-24-2007, 08:06 PM
Villain unknown, i just sat down at the table.

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SB ($267.87)
BB ($180.32)
UTG ($150.85)
Hero ($98.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.50. BB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>,<font color="#CC3333">SB (poster) raises to $14.5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero ...



Villain here is 57/16/2

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BB ($79.75)
Hero ($106.24)
MP ($50.08)
CO ($43.05)
Button ($43.19)
SB ($45.02)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.25. BB posts a blind of $0.5.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero ...



What is the standard here? 4-bet. All in? Or just call.

ciki57
03-24-2007, 09:01 PM
bump

crushednuts
03-24-2007, 09:04 PM
With the hand when you raise on the button, I would probably 4-bet as he might think you are stealing and be 3-betting w/ AJ etc. On the other hand I like a smooth call against the button w/ the intention of CRing the flop if it is safe

Xanta
03-24-2007, 09:09 PM
Crushed nuts' lines sound good for both.

FWIW if I raise QQ from UTG or MP I'm probably dumping it to a 3bet. Am I weak/tight?

crushednuts
03-24-2007, 09:10 PM
Depends who the 3-bet is coming from. You are weak tight if you do it against every villain..

ciki57
03-24-2007, 09:19 PM
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Crushed nuts' lines sound good for both.

FWIW if I raise QQ from UTG or MP I'm probably dumping it to a 3bet. Am I weak/tight?

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At least call for set value.

ciki57
03-24-2007, 09:20 PM
What about reraising allin? Is that awful? Do we only get called by AA/KK?

crushednuts
03-24-2007, 09:22 PM
I think you are too deep to RR AI. At these stakes you will only get called by AA, KK or MAYBE AK.

Ikaika
03-24-2007, 09:29 PM
Agree with crushednuts. I like his line for OOP, and if I'm button I make a proper sized reraise here. I don't know what I do if I get called and an AQx or KQx flop comes down though...

ciki57
03-24-2007, 09:34 PM
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Agree with crushednuts. I like his line for OOP, and if I'm button I make a proper sized reraise here. I don't know what I do if I get called and an AQx or KQx flop comes down though...

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Hope to get it all in?

(And sometimes go broke to a sick cooler, but i'm ok with that)

crushednuts
03-24-2007, 10:45 PM
If he comes AI over the top then you are probably beat. I think if he makes a 4th raise AI you can throw the queens away unless you are committed..

If you think the villain would move AI w/ AK, it is probably a call to his AI raise but if not, throw the QQ away as JJ would not do this

allaboutmyfetti
03-24-2007, 11:14 PM
my standard is to just call.

party lets u post in the sb? is this standard?