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Oracle
03-24-2007, 01:52 PM
Vill is unknown, just sat.

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MP ($75.40)
Button ($50)
SB ($25.85)
BB ($66.10)
Hero ($95.75)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($4.75) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $7.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $48</font>,
Reliant444
03-24-2007, 01:55 PM
The 3-bet is yuck....you can call for $4.50 and analyze the turn.
Oracle
03-24-2007, 02:01 PM
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The 3-bet is yuck....you can call for $4.50 and analyze the turn.

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I don't think it is on this draw heavy board.
rakes.a.beach
03-24-2007, 02:01 PM
Fold to 4-bet is standard
Oracle
03-24-2007, 02:09 PM
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Fold to 4-bet is standard

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Do you fold AA here too?
danny8
03-24-2007, 02:11 PM
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Fold to 4-bet is standard

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Do you fold AA here too?

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if i had AA i'd make a much bigger reraise, and call a push
danny8
03-24-2007, 02:14 PM
i dont like your almost minraise here... he practically has odds to call with a FD

I'd just call his raise and see what the turn brings, prolly checking and folding to a PSB
KreellKeiser
03-24-2007, 02:18 PM
Fold. Remember, all you have is a pair. Besides, a whole lot of hands are ahead here: JJ, QQ, KK, AA, 22, 55, 88. If he doesn't have those, I'd say his most likely holdings are 99 or AK spades (A8 spades maybe?).
KreellKeiser
03-24-2007, 02:19 PM
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Fold to 4-bet is standard

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Do you fold AA here too?

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if i had AA i'd make a much bigger reraise, and call a push

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I agree. AA on this board, play for stacks.
Reliant444
03-24-2007, 02:23 PM
Our equity doesn't really change that much with AA here unless we're under the assumption he cold calls QQ/KK and/or makes moves with FD+overs. Since we are readless, the standard thing to do would be fold AA, but that's criminal in my mind.

also, you're getting over 2:1